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  • R Roger Wright

    Since I've never bought a prebuilt PC since 1994, that's exactly what I'm doing - build from scratch.

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    Lost User
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    Replace the motherboard? (My mistake: when someone says "new PC", I assume off the shelf; I just refer to my "latest creation")

    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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    • R Roger Wright

      I'll give the BIOS update a try next week. For now, I'm taking a weekend away from this thing. I used to buy only SuperMicro boards, but they've gone to selling only server boards and complete workstations. That's a shame, because they've always been the gold standard for quality to me. I wish there was some visibility into what the setup process is doing... it would make it so much easier to diagnose things. Why does it crash at 4% - what's it doing???

      Will Rogers never met me.

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      Did your motherboard make the list? [ASUS Motherboards Ready for Windows 11](https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/ASUS-motherboards-Win11-ready/)

      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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      • L Lost User

        Replace the motherboard? (My mistake: when someone says "new PC", I assume off the shelf; I just refer to my "latest creation")

        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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        Roger Wright
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        That's certainly a possibility, Gerry, but not until I'm convinced that it's faulty. The odds of bad RAM are far higher than a bad MB. Oh well, it will eventually become obvious what's wrong. :-D

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        • L Lost User

          Did your motherboard make the list? [ASUS Motherboards Ready for Windows 11](https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/ASUS-motherboards-Win11-ready/)

          "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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          Roger Wright
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          Yes. And all required features (TPM 2.0, Secure Boot, DirectX 12 support) are installed and enabled.

          Will Rogers never met me.

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          • H honey the codewitch

            If I had glanced at your username before I replied I wouldn't have expected a helpful response anyway. Have a nice day.

            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Cool. So we established you don’t fully read the posts you reply to. Have a nice day.

            Jeremy Falcon

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Cool. So we established you don’t fully read the posts you reply to. Have a nice day.

              Jeremy Falcon

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              honey the codewitch
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              I read the part where you said don't expect a reply from you. As you replied twice.

              Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

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              • H honey the codewitch

                I read the part where you said don't expect a reply from you. As you replied twice.

                Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Clearly, being as argumentative as you are… you feel the need to get the last word. Fine, you can have it. Just leave me alone. I tire of this childish behavior.

                Jeremy Falcon

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  Clearly, being as argumentative as you are… you feel the need to get the last word. Fine, you can have it. Just leave me alone. I tire of this childish behavior.

                  Jeremy Falcon

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  That's three times you responded telling me you weren't going to respond. Seems you really want an argument. Go ahead and respond again, telling me how you won't.

                  Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch/gfx

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    Roger Wright wrote:

                    I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly.

                    It's probably the RAM, everything else is cookie-cutter. Motherboards come with a _lot_ of optimizations these days in the areas of CPU, GPU, and RAM. Assuming you're supplying enough power to all the parts or you're not overheating... Here's what you need to do: * Go get a BIOS update on a USB stick from another computer. Update your BIOS to fix any bugs, etc. since the motherboard was released. * Then go into your BIOS and disable *ALL* optimizations - especially for your RAM. * Now, install windows. Go through the Windows update process, etc. * Then and only then, turn back on those optimizations one-by-one to see if you still have a problem.

                    Roger Wright wrote:

                    But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

                    ASUS sucks now. They used to be awesome. Times change.

                    Jeremy Falcon

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                    jmaida
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                    ... I agree, probably RAM. Saw the video on ASUS. Thanx, news to me. If accurate, beware. I have built my share of computer systems. ... BTW, be tolerant of argumentative feedback. You are pretty good at it yourself. It's all good. That's how we learn. Ciao

                    "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                    • J jmaida

                      ... I agree, probably RAM. Saw the video on ASUS. Thanx, news to me. If accurate, beware. I have built my share of computer systems. ... BTW, be tolerant of argumentative feedback. You are pretty good at it yourself. It's all good. That's how we learn. Ciao

                      "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                      jmaida
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                      Update on ASUS The ASUS Problem & Resolution: Buying Media, Warranties, & Improvements - YouTube[^]

                      "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                      • J jmaida

                        ... I agree, probably RAM. Saw the video on ASUS. Thanx, news to me. If accurate, beware. I have built my share of computer systems. ... BTW, be tolerant of argumentative feedback. You are pretty good at it yourself. It's all good. That's how we learn. Ciao

                        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        I’m on my phone, so I can’t properly quote text… but any time man. About the arguments… totally guilty. :) These days, I see it as a waste of time and energy though. It only distracts from the people I want to talk to. I’ve managed enough people to know those that only disagree are usually lousy team players. And a few of them are bad at their job. Some aren’t. A lot are. It’s just wasting time. Anywho, I see what you’re saying, and that’s why I ask the bad characters to leave me alone. I’m tired of them. They won’t though. Dang Internet.

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                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                          I’m on my phone, so I can’t properly quote text… but any time man. About the arguments… totally guilty. :) These days, I see it as a waste of time and energy though. It only distracts from the people I want to talk to. I’ve managed enough people to know those that only disagree are usually lousy team players. And a few of them are bad at their job. Some aren’t. A lot are. It’s just wasting time. Anywho, I see what you’re saying, and that’s why I ask the bad characters to leave me alone. I’m tired of them. They won’t though. Dang Internet.

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                          jmaida
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                          True. Some folks just argue for the sake of it. Not team players for sure. Tiresome and not constructive.

                          "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                          • R Roger Wright

                            It's possible, Richard, but I've no reliable way to test it. The motherboard BIOS setup includes MEMTEST86, but the results are inconclusive. It bails out and fails while running, but the summary results say PASS: 100%. Go figure. There are other memory test utilities out there, but they all assume an operating system is there to execute them. I do have a fresh copy of Ubuntu that I can try, I guess.

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            Nelek
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                            Hiren's stopped the work a while ago, but there is another new DVD of it for PC's from windows 10 times. It might bring a couple of tools inside helpfull for the new hardware.

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            • J Jeremy Falcon

                              I’m on my phone, so I can’t properly quote text… but any time man. About the arguments… totally guilty. :) These days, I see it as a waste of time and energy though. It only distracts from the people I want to talk to. I’ve managed enough people to know those that only disagree are usually lousy team players. And a few of them are bad at their job. Some aren’t. A lot are. It’s just wasting time. Anywho, I see what you’re saying, and that’s why I ask the bad characters to leave me alone. I’m tired of them. They won’t though. Dang Internet.

                              Jeremy Falcon

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                              Nelek
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                              English question from a non native here...

                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              Anywho

                              Anywho? Or Anyhow?

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              • R Roger Wright

                                I'll give the BIOS update a try next week. For now, I'm taking a weekend away from this thing. I used to buy only SuperMicro boards, but they've gone to selling only server boards and complete workstations. That's a shame, because they've always been the gold standard for quality to me. I wish there was some visibility into what the setup process is doing... it would make it so much easier to diagnose things. Why does it crash at 4% - what's it doing???

                                Will Rogers never met me.

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                                Nelek
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                                My current one is a MSI and I am pretty happy with how it works. My systems is MSI Board, AMD 7 CPU, Viper RAM, Crucial NVME SSD, and the rest is from BeQuiet (Case, PowerUnit, Fans, CPU Fantower...) Running smooth since the very beginning. I know it doesn't help you a lot right now, just wanted to name some alternatives. Good luck solving your issues :) :thumbsup:

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  Well, my new PC sure looks pretty, but it doesn't do anything. I've tried about 67 times to install Windows 11 and nothing works. It took a while to work out the compatibility issues, but the BIOS configuration was right a few days ago. Now it will boot into the Win11 Setup program, but it won't get past the point where it's at the 4 - 5% spot of "Preparing files for installation." It crashes with the error: "0x80070570" which happens to mean anything Microsoft wants it to mean. I thought it might be a defective DVD media, but after more than 20 attempts to get that to work, I tried the download approach to make a bootable USB Drive. That causes the same error, at the same point in the setup process. I'm at wit's end with this POS. I've assembled a lot of PC's in the past 30 years, for myself and for others. I've never experienced a single glitch, as everything has always gone perfectly smoothly. But I've never used an ASUS motherboard. I will never do so again.

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  dandy72
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                                  Try disconnecting everything that's not 100% necessary. Only keep the boot media (you mentioned it's on DVD?), the mouse, keyboard and monitor. Disconnect every other physical wire, including LAN. If prompted during install, skip Wifi setup. This worked for me the few times I've seen this sort of thing happen. Once the OS is up, I reconnected everything, one device at a time, and let the OS detect it/install the drivers as/if needed.

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                                  • N Nelek

                                    English question from a non native here...

                                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                    Anywho

                                    Anywho? Or Anyhow?

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                    Anywho (or anyhoo) is a mostly US colloquialism for anyhow or anyway. Usually meant to be humorous.

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                                    • FreedMallocF FreedMalloc

                                      Anywho (or anyhoo) is a mostly US colloquialism for anyhow or anyway. Usually meant to be humorous.

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                                      Nelek
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                                      Thanks for the explanation

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      • J jmaida

                                        True. Some folks just argue for the sake of it. Not team players for sure. Tiresome and not constructive.

                                        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                        jmaida
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                                        BTW I don't think Honey argues for the sake of it. She is intense and drills pretty deep. Passionate about her work. I learn a lot from CP. EOS

                                        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                                          Clearly, being as argumentative as you are… you feel the need to get the last word. Fine, you can have it. Just leave me alone. I tire of this childish behavior.

                                          Jeremy Falcon

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                                          haughtonomous
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                                          Boy, you are one silly intemperate person!

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