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  • pkfoxP pkfox

    Hi all, I have an Intel NUC i5 5300 with 16gb RAM and a couple of SSD drives , it runs Debian Linux - I use it mainly for hosting my intranet site and any .NET (what was .NET core ) projects, I also use it to build Armbian images for my plethora of SBC boards. It's starting to show it's age and I would like to replace/supplement it with something newer. The absolute prequisite is that it's quiet and hopefully not too power hungry. Any suggestions peeps ?

    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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    rnbergren
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    this might be interesting to watch this discussion.

    To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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      this might be interesting to watch this discussion.

      To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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      Hope so

      In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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        Hope so

        In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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        me as well. I will be looking for a new box this fall. So I look forward to the discussion. I have been looking at one of these mini PC's this is for home use. So, I think, completely different than your needs. Ace Magic[^]

        To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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        • pkfoxP pkfox

          Hi all, I have an Intel NUC i5 5300 with 16gb RAM and a couple of SSD drives , it runs Debian Linux - I use it mainly for hosting my intranet site and any .NET (what was .NET core ) projects, I also use it to build Armbian images for my plethora of SBC boards. It's starting to show it's age and I would like to replace/supplement it with something newer. The absolute prequisite is that it's quiet and hopefully not too power hungry. Any suggestions peeps ?

          In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          On the NotebookCheck site you can find an interesting list with tests of Mini PC's: https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-best-mini-PCs.739463.0.html[^] There is a review of the AOOSTAR GEM12 using both Windows 11 and Ubuntu on this site: AOOSTAR GEM12 Review: Mini PC with OCuLink, 2.5 GbE LAN and up to Ryzen 7 8845HS - Liliputing[^]

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          • pkfoxP pkfox

            Hi all, I have an Intel NUC i5 5300 with 16gb RAM and a couple of SSD drives , it runs Debian Linux - I use it mainly for hosting my intranet site and any .NET (what was .NET core ) projects, I also use it to build Armbian images for my plethora of SBC boards. It's starting to show it's age and I would like to replace/supplement it with something newer. The absolute prequisite is that it's quiet and hopefully not too power hungry. Any suggestions peeps ?

            In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Why not just get a newer NUC?

            Jeremy Falcon

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              On the NotebookCheck site you can find an interesting list with tests of Mini PC's: https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-best-mini-PCs.739463.0.html[^] There is a review of the AOOSTAR GEM12 using both Windows 11 and Ubuntu on this site: AOOSTAR GEM12 Review: Mini PC with OCuLink, 2.5 GbE LAN and up to Ryzen 7 8845HS - Liliputing[^]

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              honey the codewitch
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              I was about to suggest one of those. :laugh:

              Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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              • pkfoxP pkfox

                Hi all, I have an Intel NUC i5 5300 with 16gb RAM and a couple of SSD drives , it runs Debian Linux - I use it mainly for hosting my intranet site and any .NET (what was .NET core ) projects, I also use it to build Armbian images for my plethora of SBC boards. It's starting to show it's age and I would like to replace/supplement it with something newer. The absolute prequisite is that it's quiet and hopefully not too power hungry. Any suggestions peeps ?

                In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                Both Intel NUCs I got died prematurely. Both started life very quiet, but each one's fan got progressively louder and louder (they started running hotter and hotter). One just gave up one day, and the other simply never came back up after a regional power outage (despite being on a UPS). These days I have a bunch of Beelink systems. My most high-powered ones are a pair of SER5 Ryzen 5 (5700U), which have both been loaded up with 64GB of RAM. Both replace my older full-tower VM host, an i7-4820K - which was still going strong, but I needed to split the workload between it and something else. I also have a bunch of cheaper ones (one's hooked up to my projector, another is sitting on my desk and I remote into the VMs hosted by the other two). I love these little boxes, to the point where whenever I see one's on sale, I have to try hard to resist getting another. As far as Intel's concerned, it's just as well they exited the NUC market. They lost the plot - they got progressively bigger and just as expensive as desktop systems.

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                • pkfoxP pkfox

                  Hi all, I have an Intel NUC i5 5300 with 16gb RAM and a couple of SSD drives , it runs Debian Linux - I use it mainly for hosting my intranet site and any .NET (what was .NET core ) projects, I also use it to build Armbian images for my plethora of SBC boards. It's starting to show it's age and I would like to replace/supplement it with something newer. The absolute prequisite is that it's quiet and hopefully not too power hungry. Any suggestions peeps ?

                  In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                  I am running 2 systems that host virtual machines. One is running ESXi from VMware (don't ask) and the other boots to a Debian 12.5 image or a Debian 11.5 (backup system), dual boot. Both systems are Dell Precision workstations, 5820 purchased on eBay. The latest one was less than $400, but no video. Both systems are 64GB Ram and multiple SSD's. Main system has NVME M.2 drives (3). Quiet for me but I am HOH. I have always had great luck on eBay. YMMV. I also host a web site and Plex server on Pi 5's. Just installed the M.2 Hat with 256 GB "drive", Debian 12, gave hdparm of 750+ MB/sec. Hat is $12, drive was about $40. I am a sucker for Pi stuff.

                  >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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                  • pkfoxP pkfox

                    Hi all, I have an Intel NUC i5 5300 with 16gb RAM and a couple of SSD drives , it runs Debian Linux - I use it mainly for hosting my intranet site and any .NET (what was .NET core ) projects, I also use it to build Armbian images for my plethora of SBC boards. It's starting to show it's age and I would like to replace/supplement it with something newer. The absolute prequisite is that it's quiet and hopefully not too power hungry. Any suggestions peeps ?

                    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                    fgs1963
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                    If I recall correctly Intel sold their NUC business to Asus... FWIW - I have an Asus ExpertCenter PN64-B w/ i5-13500H, Integrated Iris graphics, 32Gb DDR5 4800, 1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2 SSD (System) plus a 1TB Samsung 850 EVO mSATA SSD (Back Up). I'm running Fedora WS. It's generally fast and pretty quiet.

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      Why not just get a newer NUC?

                      Jeremy Falcon

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                      Because it's just getting louder and running hotter all the time when not really doing anything stressful

                      In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                      • pkfoxP pkfox

                        Hi all, I have an Intel NUC i5 5300 with 16gb RAM and a couple of SSD drives , it runs Debian Linux - I use it mainly for hosting my intranet site and any .NET (what was .NET core ) projects, I also use it to build Armbian images for my plethora of SBC boards. It's starting to show it's age and I would like to replace/supplement it with something newer. The absolute prequisite is that it's quiet and hopefully not too power hungry. Any suggestions peeps ?

                        In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                        pkfox
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                        Thanks chaps keep em comin

                        In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                        • R RickZeeland

                          On the NotebookCheck site you can find an interesting list with tests of Mini PC's: https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-best-mini-PCs.739463.0.html[^] There is a review of the AOOSTAR GEM12 using both Windows 11 and Ubuntu on this site: AOOSTAR GEM12 Review: Mini PC with OCuLink, 2.5 GbE LAN and up to Ryzen 7 8845HS - Liliputing[^]

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                          Thankyou. Did not know about this site. Good info

                          To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                            me as well. I will be looking for a new box this fall. So I look forward to the discussion. I have been looking at one of these mini PC's this is for home use. So, I think, completely different than your needs. Ace Magic[^]

                            To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                            My requirement doesn't include running Windows

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                              I was about to suggest one of those. :laugh:

                              Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                              Which one ?

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                                Which one ?

                                In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                I don't have a specific one to recommend. I was going to get one as a low end game machine at one point, so an AMD with something onboard that could run fallout 4. Last time i looked they were like $800 USD on amazon. But they have all kinds of different varieties, so tell me more about what you want to do with it and I'll dig up a few examples.

                                Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                                  I don't have a specific one to recommend. I was going to get one as a low end game machine at one point, so an AMD with something onboard that could run fallout 4. Last time i looked they were like $800 USD on amazon. But they have all kinds of different varieties, so tell me more about what you want to do with it and I'll dig up a few examples.

                                  Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                                  Thanks, I mainly use it for home .net projects,storing my ~500 gb of music and hosting a couple of lightweight API's which are only used by me

                                  In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                    Thanks, I mainly use it for home .net projects,storing my ~500 gb of music and hosting a couple of lightweight API's which are only used by me

                                    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                    honey the codewitch
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                                    On the low end there's this lil guy https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Desktop-Computer-Support-Ethernet/dp/B0BVLS7ZHP/ref=sr_1_3?c=ts&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dqU0JkMyPhtZ9fy6nAX4K8Y7Xia0s96-RUiZG1yvMk-sGlixBtcBiw_z4gH8k3k07Ijes_JfLUNKsfQOHk3xmQ3MN0UaerdRPErO0TjDFmteL1e0wCswCo2VEX9VR3EKf6OYLx80GpcyvOjeV4vZt3ueAMvc0JRfeSSGy0nad3_oHNRcOpXcgikVqFK7tDaaei83NBz-6kLybWZ8wC9eFsbMvDQl6e3p3PNssGZe5hTqBf6DwO31s4W3cAx4Mrn2Kxp7KVl0NTmk9TRrlkTgABvQpaIxU-a3f1cD1N6Pw4M.b1Joe5Poi3peh8IHjZnoiY9y3sSxoz3_wwb4POTO6GM&dib_tag=se&keywords=Mini%2BComputers&qid=1722370345&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A5446812011&s=pc&sr=1-3&ts_id=13896591011&th=1[^] However, I'd go with something with twice the space of what you need, for TRIM and other reasons so maybe something like this?

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                                      My requirement doesn't include running Windows

                                      In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                      nor mine, Anything I get will be wiped and a fresh install of Debian version will be installed.

                                      To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                                        On the low end there's this lil guy https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Desktop-Computer-Support-Ethernet/dp/B0BVLS7ZHP/ref=sr_1_3?c=ts&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dqU0JkMyPhtZ9fy6nAX4K8Y7Xia0s96-RUiZG1yvMk-sGlixBtcBiw_z4gH8k3k07Ijes_JfLUNKsfQOHk3xmQ3MN0UaerdRPErO0TjDFmteL1e0wCswCo2VEX9VR3EKf6OYLx80GpcyvOjeV4vZt3ueAMvc0JRfeSSGy0nad3_oHNRcOpXcgikVqFK7tDaaei83NBz-6kLybWZ8wC9eFsbMvDQl6e3p3PNssGZe5hTqBf6DwO31s4W3cAx4Mrn2Kxp7KVl0NTmk9TRrlkTgABvQpaIxU-a3f1cD1N6Pw4M.b1Joe5Poi3peh8IHjZnoiY9y3sSxoz3_wwb4POTO6GM&dib_tag=se&keywords=Mini%2BComputers&qid=1722370345&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A5446812011&s=pc&sr=1-3&ts_id=13896591011&th=1[^] However, I'd go with something with twice the space of what you need, for TRIM and other reasons so maybe something like this?

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                                        Thanks, I want it to be a Linux box so don't want to pay for Windows - I also have a shed load of NVME SSD M2 1 tb drives I can use

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                                        • pkfoxP pkfox

                                          Thanks, I want it to be a Linux box so don't want to pay for Windows - I also have a shed load of NVME SSD M2 1 tb drives I can use

                                          In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                          honey the codewitch
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                                          I mean I don't know of any that don't have Windows pre-installed, but I haven't really looked. Although if the $169 one works, it's like the price of a windows license all in itself. I don't think you'll get it a whole lot cheaper without windows in that particular case.

                                          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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