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  • pkfoxP pkfox

    Hi all, I have an Intel NUC i5 5300 with 16gb RAM and a couple of SSD drives , it runs Debian Linux - I use it mainly for hosting my intranet site and any .NET (what was .NET core ) projects, I also use it to build Armbian images for my plethora of SBC boards. It's starting to show it's age and I would like to replace/supplement it with something newer. The absolute prequisite is that it's quiet and hopefully not too power hungry. Any suggestions peeps ?

    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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    I am running 2 systems that host virtual machines. One is running ESXi from VMware (don't ask) and the other boots to a Debian 12.5 image or a Debian 11.5 (backup system), dual boot. Both systems are Dell Precision workstations, 5820 purchased on eBay. The latest one was less than $400, but no video. Both systems are 64GB Ram and multiple SSD's. Main system has NVME M.2 drives (3). Quiet for me but I am HOH. I have always had great luck on eBay. YMMV. I also host a web site and Plex server on Pi 5's. Just installed the M.2 Hat with 256 GB "drive", Debian 12, gave hdparm of 750+ MB/sec. Hat is $12, drive was about $40. I am a sucker for Pi stuff.

    >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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    • pkfoxP pkfox

      Hi all, I have an Intel NUC i5 5300 with 16gb RAM and a couple of SSD drives , it runs Debian Linux - I use it mainly for hosting my intranet site and any .NET (what was .NET core ) projects, I also use it to build Armbian images for my plethora of SBC boards. It's starting to show it's age and I would like to replace/supplement it with something newer. The absolute prequisite is that it's quiet and hopefully not too power hungry. Any suggestions peeps ?

      In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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      If I recall correctly Intel sold their NUC business to Asus... FWIW - I have an Asus ExpertCenter PN64-B w/ i5-13500H, Integrated Iris graphics, 32Gb DDR5 4800, 1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2 SSD (System) plus a 1TB Samsung 850 EVO mSATA SSD (Back Up). I'm running Fedora WS. It's generally fast and pretty quiet.

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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        Why not just get a newer NUC?

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        Because it's just getting louder and running hotter all the time when not really doing anything stressful

        In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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        • pkfoxP pkfox

          Hi all, I have an Intel NUC i5 5300 with 16gb RAM and a couple of SSD drives , it runs Debian Linux - I use it mainly for hosting my intranet site and any .NET (what was .NET core ) projects, I also use it to build Armbian images for my plethora of SBC boards. It's starting to show it's age and I would like to replace/supplement it with something newer. The absolute prequisite is that it's quiet and hopefully not too power hungry. Any suggestions peeps ?

          In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          Thanks chaps keep em comin

          In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          • R RickZeeland

            On the NotebookCheck site you can find an interesting list with tests of Mini PC's: https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-best-mini-PCs.739463.0.html[^] There is a review of the AOOSTAR GEM12 using both Windows 11 and Ubuntu on this site: AOOSTAR GEM12 Review: Mini PC with OCuLink, 2.5 GbE LAN and up to Ryzen 7 8845HS - Liliputing[^]

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            Thankyou. Did not know about this site. Good info

            To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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            • R rnbergren

              me as well. I will be looking for a new box this fall. So I look forward to the discussion. I have been looking at one of these mini PC's this is for home use. So, I think, completely different than your needs. Ace Magic[^]

              To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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              My requirement doesn't include running Windows

              In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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              • H honey the codewitch

                I was about to suggest one of those. :laugh:

                Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                Which one ?

                In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                • pkfoxP pkfox

                  Which one ?

                  In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  I don't have a specific one to recommend. I was going to get one as a low end game machine at one point, so an AMD with something onboard that could run fallout 4. Last time i looked they were like $800 USD on amazon. But they have all kinds of different varieties, so tell me more about what you want to do with it and I'll dig up a few examples.

                  Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                    I don't have a specific one to recommend. I was going to get one as a low end game machine at one point, so an AMD with something onboard that could run fallout 4. Last time i looked they were like $800 USD on amazon. But they have all kinds of different varieties, so tell me more about what you want to do with it and I'll dig up a few examples.

                    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                    Thanks, I mainly use it for home .net projects,storing my ~500 gb of music and hosting a couple of lightweight API's which are only used by me

                    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                    • pkfoxP pkfox

                      Thanks, I mainly use it for home .net projects,storing my ~500 gb of music and hosting a couple of lightweight API's which are only used by me

                      In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                      honey the codewitch
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                      On the low end there's this lil guy https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Desktop-Computer-Support-Ethernet/dp/B0BVLS7ZHP/ref=sr_1_3?c=ts&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dqU0JkMyPhtZ9fy6nAX4K8Y7Xia0s96-RUiZG1yvMk-sGlixBtcBiw_z4gH8k3k07Ijes_JfLUNKsfQOHk3xmQ3MN0UaerdRPErO0TjDFmteL1e0wCswCo2VEX9VR3EKf6OYLx80GpcyvOjeV4vZt3ueAMvc0JRfeSSGy0nad3_oHNRcOpXcgikVqFK7tDaaei83NBz-6kLybWZ8wC9eFsbMvDQl6e3p3PNssGZe5hTqBf6DwO31s4W3cAx4Mrn2Kxp7KVl0NTmk9TRrlkTgABvQpaIxU-a3f1cD1N6Pw4M.b1Joe5Poi3peh8IHjZnoiY9y3sSxoz3_wwb4POTO6GM&dib_tag=se&keywords=Mini%2BComputers&qid=1722370345&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A5446812011&s=pc&sr=1-3&ts_id=13896591011&th=1[^] However, I'd go with something with twice the space of what you need, for TRIM and other reasons so maybe something like this?

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                      • pkfoxP pkfox

                        My requirement doesn't include running Windows

                        In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                        nor mine, Anything I get will be wiped and a fresh install of Debian version will be installed.

                        To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                          On the low end there's this lil guy https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Desktop-Computer-Support-Ethernet/dp/B0BVLS7ZHP/ref=sr_1_3?c=ts&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dqU0JkMyPhtZ9fy6nAX4K8Y7Xia0s96-RUiZG1yvMk-sGlixBtcBiw_z4gH8k3k07Ijes_JfLUNKsfQOHk3xmQ3MN0UaerdRPErO0TjDFmteL1e0wCswCo2VEX9VR3EKf6OYLx80GpcyvOjeV4vZt3ueAMvc0JRfeSSGy0nad3_oHNRcOpXcgikVqFK7tDaaei83NBz-6kLybWZ8wC9eFsbMvDQl6e3p3PNssGZe5hTqBf6DwO31s4W3cAx4Mrn2Kxp7KVl0NTmk9TRrlkTgABvQpaIxU-a3f1cD1N6Pw4M.b1Joe5Poi3peh8IHjZnoiY9y3sSxoz3_wwb4POTO6GM&dib_tag=se&keywords=Mini%2BComputers&qid=1722370345&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A5446812011&s=pc&sr=1-3&ts_id=13896591011&th=1[^] However, I'd go with something with twice the space of what you need, for TRIM and other reasons so maybe something like this?

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                          Thanks, I want it to be a Linux box so don't want to pay for Windows - I also have a shed load of NVME SSD M2 1 tb drives I can use

                          In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                            Thanks, I want it to be a Linux box so don't want to pay for Windows - I also have a shed load of NVME SSD M2 1 tb drives I can use

                            In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                            honey the codewitch
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                            I mean I don't know of any that don't have Windows pre-installed, but I haven't really looked. Although if the $169 one works, it's like the price of a windows license all in itself. I don't think you'll get it a whole lot cheaper without windows in that particular case.

                            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                              I mean I don't know of any that don't have Windows pre-installed, but I haven't really looked. Although if the $169 one works, it's like the price of a windows license all in itself. I don't think you'll get it a whole lot cheaper without windows in that particular case.

                              Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                              I agree. Cheaper than a bag of potting soil.

                              "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                              • pkfoxP pkfox

                                My requirement doesn't include running Windows

                                In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                The ACEMAGIC AM18 Mini PC shown on the same page comes without Windows, and is a lot cheaper. It probably has an AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS processor.

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                                  On the NotebookCheck site you can find an interesting list with tests of Mini PC's: https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-best-mini-PCs.739463.0.html[^] There is a review of the AOOSTAR GEM12 using both Windows 11 and Ubuntu on this site: AOOSTAR GEM12 Review: Mini PC with OCuLink, 2.5 GbE LAN and up to Ryzen 7 8845HS - Liliputing[^]

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                                  I just received a Geekom IT13, rated #4 in your list, and I'm trying to decide what to do with it. It's a bit more powerful than the full-sixed tower I7 machine I built a year ago, and about half the cost.

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    nor mine, Anything I get will be wiped and a fresh install of Debian version will be installed.

                                    To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                                    :thumbsup:

                                    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                      I just received a Geekom IT13, rated #4 in your list, and I'm trying to decide what to do with it. It's a bit more powerful than the full-sixed tower I7 machine I built a year ago, and about half the cost.

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      Very powerful indeed, but the downside is that it can get a bit noisy. A less powerful and more quiet model is the GEEKOM A7, here is a test with Windows 11 and Ubuntu: GEEKOM A7 Review: This AMD Ryzen 7040HS series mini PC hits the sweet spot - Liliputing[^]

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                                      • H honey the codewitch

                                        On the low end there's this lil guy https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Desktop-Computer-Support-Ethernet/dp/B0BVLS7ZHP/ref=sr_1_3?c=ts&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dqU0JkMyPhtZ9fy6nAX4K8Y7Xia0s96-RUiZG1yvMk-sGlixBtcBiw_z4gH8k3k07Ijes_JfLUNKsfQOHk3xmQ3MN0UaerdRPErO0TjDFmteL1e0wCswCo2VEX9VR3EKf6OYLx80GpcyvOjeV4vZt3ueAMvc0JRfeSSGy0nad3_oHNRcOpXcgikVqFK7tDaaei83NBz-6kLybWZ8wC9eFsbMvDQl6e3p3PNssGZe5hTqBf6DwO31s4W3cAx4Mrn2Kxp7KVl0NTmk9TRrlkTgABvQpaIxU-a3f1cD1N6Pw4M.b1Joe5Poi3peh8IHjZnoiY9y3sSxoz3_wwb4POTO6GM&dib_tag=se&keywords=Mini%2BComputers&qid=1722370345&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A5446812011&s=pc&sr=1-3&ts_id=13896591011&th=1[^] However, I'd go with something with twice the space of what you need, for TRIM and other reasons so maybe something like this?

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                                        MikeD 2
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                                        two examples of what I call link bloat It would be so nice if copying a link to pass on could optionally remove everything from the ? forward which I believe is there merely to track us around and prehaps generate advertiser link click money I find it tedious deleting all this off particularly when forwarding on a phone

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                                          I don't have a specific one to recommend. I was going to get one as a low end game machine at one point, so an AMD with something onboard that could run fallout 4. Last time i looked they were like $800 USD on amazon. But they have all kinds of different varieties, so tell me more about what you want to do with it and I'll dig up a few examples.

                                          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                                          charlieg
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                                          $800 seems extremely expensive... then again, looking at piece parts at Home Depot, I'm stunned.

                                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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