200K-350K salary for MFC programmer!
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Hello, the CPians around the world. ;) Can you believe this? http://www.windowsdevelopment.computerjobs.com/job_display.aspx?jobid=1499382&siteid=123&sort=pd&view=s&searchid=55341200&page=1&published=[^] I'v never heard that one programmer might get $200K - 350K salary? Ouch. X| -Masaaki Onishi (eCoolSoft)- ASP.NET Web and Windows Application Development by C# and MFC. eCoolWebPanelBar(BETA) is availabe now. http://www.ecoolsoft.net/homepages.aspx
I work on an intensive straight through processing system that I developed myself. The guy who will take this job will have to give his life to his company. But that is only half of the salary. You see - compensation in the financial business is not the value of your work - but the value of the know how that you can take with you when you leave the company. Many financial companies develop complex quantitative analysis packages and base their whole strategies on it. The programmer with know how about these systems is KEY person in such company - and the only way company can keep their investment safe is by buying his absolute loyalty. 200K - 300K does exactly that. Anyone disagrees? Kind Regards, Tomaz
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Giles wrote: clear understanding of the business at hand - as its trading then thats how they can afford to pay for it. Seems only fair that if they get someone in that can work in a high pressure trading environment that they share in some of the spoils agreed, anyone they employ, the will expect results and outcomes from. Being able to understand the industry will be just as important as the coding skills. I guess they wish to attract the best the industry has to offer. Regardz Colin J Davies
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There was a similar job advertised on www.jobnet.com.au for the last six months or so, it doesn't seem to be there now, I don't know whether they filled it or gave up. From memory they were offering AUD 150k or USD 100k bit of a difference !!!
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I work on an intensive straight through processing system that I developed myself. The guy who will take this job will have to give his life to his company. But that is only half of the salary. You see - compensation in the financial business is not the value of your work - but the value of the know how that you can take with you when you leave the company. Many financial companies develop complex quantitative analysis packages and base their whole strategies on it. The programmer with know how about these systems is KEY person in such company - and the only way company can keep their investment safe is by buying his absolute loyalty. 200K - 300K does exactly that. Anyone disagrees? Kind Regards, Tomaz
It depends, how much is that after tax. complex quantitative analysis packages, one of the financial papers here runs a regular 10 week virtual trading competition. Monkeys, schools kids and the dart board regulary win the competition. So they know the price of everything and the value of nothing eh.
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It depends, how much is that after tax. complex quantitative analysis packages, one of the financial papers here runs a regular 10 week virtual trading competition. Monkeys, schools kids and the dart board regulary win the competition. So they know the price of everything and the value of nothing eh.
> complex quantitative analysis packages, one of the financial papers here > runs a regular 10 week virtual trading competition. Monkeys, schools kids > and the dart board regulary win the competition I work for a company where a study comparing brokers and machines was made and trading decisions were trusted to the machines. They put a hell of an effort to prevent reverse engineering of their patterns, but if an insider would decide to go to another company that would exposed them dangerously. The know how that predicts the market is not half as valuable as the know how to predict their every move... Tomaz
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> complex quantitative analysis packages, one of the financial papers here > runs a regular 10 week virtual trading competition. Monkeys, schools kids > and the dart board regulary win the competition I work for a company where a study comparing brokers and machines was made and trading decisions were trusted to the machines. They put a hell of an effort to prevent reverse engineering of their patterns, but if an insider would decide to go to another company that would exposed them dangerously. The know how that predicts the market is not half as valuable as the know how to predict their every move... Tomaz
Interesting perspective. I hope you realize that these people and systems are just vampires sucking away at our lives and the productive work we do throughout them.
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I work on an intensive straight through processing system that I developed myself. The guy who will take this job will have to give his life to his company. But that is only half of the salary. You see - compensation in the financial business is not the value of your work - but the value of the know how that you can take with you when you leave the company. Many financial companies develop complex quantitative analysis packages and base their whole strategies on it. The programmer with know how about these systems is KEY person in such company - and the only way company can keep their investment safe is by buying his absolute loyalty. 200K - 300K does exactly that. Anyone disagrees? Kind Regards, Tomaz
tstih wrote: Many financial companies develop complex quantitative analysis packages and base their whole strategies on it. The programmer with know how about these systems is KEY person in such company - and the only way company can keep their investment safe is by buying his absolute loyalty. 200K - 300K does exactly that. Anyone disagrees? Yes, I disagree. Companies that put so much emphasis on a single person's ability/knowledge are obviously run by people who know nothing about how to run a business. Marc Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
A doable project is one that is small enough to be done quickly and big enough to be interesting - Ken Orr
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tstih wrote: Many financial companies develop complex quantitative analysis packages and base their whole strategies on it. The programmer with know how about these systems is KEY person in such company - and the only way company can keep their investment safe is by buying his absolute loyalty. 200K - 300K does exactly that. Anyone disagrees? Yes, I disagree. Companies that put so much emphasis on a single person's ability/knowledge are obviously run by people who know nothing about how to run a business. Marc Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
A doable project is one that is small enough to be done quickly and big enough to be interesting - Ken Orr
Latest AAL Article My blog> Yes, I disagree. Companies that put so much emphasis on a single > person's ability/knowledge are obviously run by people who know > nothing about how to run a business. You can hide the overview of the system from the engineers and delegate a part to each individual - but at the top someone will have the full picture. It is very likely that two or more persons will have the full picture (in case something happens to one of them). But there is a trade off to pay. The more people know it - the more exposed you are. Tomaz
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Interesting perspective. I hope you realize that these people and systems are just vampires sucking away at our lives and the productive work we do throughout them.
Someone has to so I decided to put my blood on the market and get the most of it. Tomaz
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Someone has to so I decided to put my blood on the market and get the most of it. Tomaz
Understood. Have you ever read 'the velocity of money' fiction.
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I thought all people who contributed articles to CodeProject got paid that kind of money :confused: Cheers, Tom Archer Inside C#,
Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework It's better to listen to others than to speak, because I already know what I'm going to say anyway. - friend of Jörgen SigvardssonTom Archer wrote: I thought all people who contributed articles to CodeProject got paid that kind of money Yeah, wheres my money! :rolleyes: Another Post by NnamdiOnyeyiri l Website
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Hello, the CPians around the world. ;) Can you believe this? http://www.windowsdevelopment.computerjobs.com/job_display.aspx?jobid=1499382&siteid=123&sort=pd&view=s&searchid=55341200&page=1&published=[^] I'v never heard that one programmer might get $200K - 350K salary? Ouch. X| -Masaaki Onishi (eCoolSoft)- ASP.NET Web and Windows Application Development by C# and MFC. eCoolWebPanelBar(BETA) is availabe now. http://www.ecoolsoft.net/homepages.aspx
2 things: 1) Its in NY city with has has one of the highest cost of living in the US. Semi-Nice apts can go for like 4000 a month. 2) The money is also probabaly a lot for the NON-tech experience.. Its very specific. "Convertible Bonds Experience" How many programmers you think have this experience. Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com "What?, Of course its fireproof! ...... < 10 Minutes later in the ER > Sorry..." How about, "Bugs?, of course there are not bugs .... < 3 weeks after Production Release > Sorry..."
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Hello, the CPians around the world. ;) Can you believe this? http://www.windowsdevelopment.computerjobs.com/job_display.aspx?jobid=1499382&siteid=123&sort=pd&view=s&searchid=55341200&page=1&published=[^] I'v never heard that one programmer might get $200K - 350K salary? Ouch. X| -Masaaki Onishi (eCoolSoft)- ASP.NET Web and Windows Application Development by C# and MFC. eCoolWebPanelBar(BETA) is availabe now. http://www.ecoolsoft.net/homepages.aspx
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igor1960 wrote: For that money: I'll write it in assembly For that money I'll do it in ones and zeros, and if the budget is tight, I'll find a way to do without the zeros. We didn't always have them in the old days, you know...
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igor1960 wrote: For that money: I'll write it in assembly For that money I'll do it in ones and zeros, and if the budget is tight, I'll find a way to do without the zeros. We didn't always have them in the old days, you know...
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- Proposed Sign at CA/AZ BorderRoger Wright wrote: For that money I'll do it in ones and zeros, and if the budget is tight, I'll find a way to do without the zeros. We didn't always have them in the old days, you know... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: John
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tstih wrote: Many financial companies develop complex quantitative analysis packages and base their whole strategies on it. The programmer with know how about these systems is KEY person in such company - and the only way company can keep their investment safe is by buying his absolute loyalty. 200K - 300K does exactly that. Anyone disagrees? Yes, I disagree. Companies that put so much emphasis on a single person's ability/knowledge are obviously run by people who know nothing about how to run a business. Marc Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
A doable project is one that is small enough to be done quickly and big enough to be interesting - Ken Orr
Latest AAL Article My blogYes, I disagree. Companies that put so much emphasis on a single person's ability/knowledge are obviously run by people who know nothing about how to run a business. And I disagree with you. You don't really know specifics of that business. What you consider "money" is just "peanuts" for that company. Imagine good convertible bonds trading system, that just places trades utilizing Arbitrage: that money (300,000) is just one good trade! It maybe not even the best. If you have no idea what Arbitrage is, let me explain to you what it is: Trading happened on different markets, like for example US, Europe, or regional inside US. On each market price for the same instrument is slightly different: So, Arbitrage will peak up the most profitable market to perform the trade. Just in here you can peak up 10 times more what the salary range is, assuming your transaction is in Billions... So, MFC portion of advertisement has nothing to do with more important qualities of that position. Plus, frankly speaking: MFC maybe the best language that system should be written on! With all that arrogance coming from .NET world: we are talking about proprieatary trading system and the best the world has offered for that is still MFC! The fastest to write on. The fastest to execute. More secured from reverse engineering. "...Ability to type is not enough to become a Programmer. Unless you type in VB. But then again you have to type really fast..." Me
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> Yes, I disagree. Companies that put so much emphasis on a single > person's ability/knowledge are obviously run by people who know > nothing about how to run a business. You can hide the overview of the system from the engineers and delegate a part to each individual - but at the top someone will have the full picture. It is very likely that two or more persons will have the full picture (in case something happens to one of them). But there is a trade off to pay. The more people know it - the more exposed you are. Tomaz
tstih wrote: The more people know it - the more exposed you are. Ah yes. And the government has a whistle-blower protection clause. Well, they'd have to pay me more than $300K a year to keep me from spilling all the corporate swindling deals and other shenanigans that go on. Marc Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
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Hello, the CPians around the world. ;) Can you believe this? http://www.windowsdevelopment.computerjobs.com/job_display.aspx?jobid=1499382&siteid=123&sort=pd&view=s&searchid=55341200&page=1&published=[^] I'v never heard that one programmer might get $200K - 350K salary? Ouch. X| -Masaaki Onishi (eCoolSoft)- ASP.NET Web and Windows Application Development by C# and MFC. eCoolWebPanelBar(BETA) is availabe now. http://www.ecoolsoft.net/homepages.aspx
OMG! The're going to fire me! :(( Just kidding! ;)
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