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Fuck You John. You answer without thinking. Stupid American. Hassan
CIA AgentHassan, while John often appears to post 'off the cuff', I believe his POV is a lot more logical than yours. I'm curious to know if this resurfacing of yours is only co=incidentally at the same time as some other jokers reviving the thread on the Quran article that was posted six weeks ago. Another of your pseudonyms I wonder ? Either way, John is right. Your viewpoint is stupid. The US should do what Bin Laden says and the world will be a better place ? You are a fool, and at your age I guess you can forgiven for that, but at least realise you have no idea how life works if you think it's the right thing to do to give in to a bully, and to allow the mass slaughter of innocents. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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> ..an islamic country, where your mother/sisters have no rights (just > because they are women)? You STUPID!!! Mustafa Demirhan
There is a link around here somewhere to a site run in secret by women in Afghanistan. It documents how a soccer field paid for by international aid is used for public executions, and specifically cases like a woman killed publically for beating her abusive husband to death, despite the pleas of her husbands parents for mercy on her. Yeah, killing a woman in front of her children and lots of spectators so that other Islamic women know to put up with their husbands beating up on them - that makes the suggestion that women have no rights in Islamic countries stupid. Dogs have no rights, women are lower than that, they are under constant attack, they are discriminated against and persecuted. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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I don't know about everybody else, but every time I see posts from this dude I'm reminded of that Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck cartoon about the "Ali Baba" treasure cave and the genie in the lamp? "Hassan want!" "Hassan want!" :) ___________ Klaus [www.vbbox.com]
I thought it was Hassan chop ? Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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> ..an islamic country, where your mother/sisters have no rights (just > because they are women)? You STUPID!!! Mustafa Demirhan
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If they mind their business properly you will not be able to use personal computer at all and write stupidity like this. I don't see any relation to MFC, COM and another technologies in your message. If you need to discuss about Ladin, switch to another forum, please... PaperSun
Where in the world are you when visitors post obscene pictures, and other things which are totally unsuitable for the younger audience that visit codeproject. :confused: Ofcourse on the other hand they might be related to 'MFC, COM and another technologies'
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Hassan, while John often appears to post 'off the cuff', I believe his POV is a lot more logical than yours. I'm curious to know if this resurfacing of yours is only co=incidentally at the same time as some other jokers reviving the thread on the Quran article that was posted six weeks ago. Another of your pseudonyms I wonder ? Either way, John is right. Your viewpoint is stupid. The US should do what Bin Laden says and the world will be a better place ? You are a fool, and at your age I guess you can forgiven for that, but at least realise you have no idea how life works if you think it's the right thing to do to give in to a bully, and to allow the mass slaughter of innocents. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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I believe you were looking for the following: image 1 Image 2 (Note: I saw these images on another online message board, I do not frequent the site they are hosted on.)
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..."(Note: I saw these images on another online message board, I do not frequent the site they are hosted on.)"... LMAO, wait till they catch you on tape using the site... hehe Don't you think it is a pretty judgemental and hypocritical world we live in when we have to make statements like that? (Note: I saw this post on another online message board, I do not frequent CP) ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
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..."(Note: I saw these images on another online message board, I do not frequent the site they are hosted on.)"... LMAO, wait till they catch you on tape using the site... hehe Don't you think it is a pretty judgemental and hypocritical world we live in when we have to make statements like that? (Note: I saw this post on another online message board, I do not frequent CP) ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
Don't you think it is a pretty judgemental and hypocritical world we live in when we have to make statements like that? No, not really. Nothing wrong with being "judgmental". What is wrong is when people are judge, jury, and executioner. (waiting to see if Hassan picks up on that statement.) Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
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As you know when and if Bush gets and kills Osama Bin Ladin, there will be 10 more Osama Bin Ladin. Osama Bin Ladin is the only major terriost group in the world and the minor ones are all linked to him. Osama Bin Ladin said that he will never ever commit a terrorist attack again if : a) America withdraws his troops from the middle east. b) Stop supporting Isreal. c) Mind their own business If Bush *really* wanted to stop Terrorism, he would do those things. America has nothing to lose by doing those things. Why doesn't America do those things ? It's So Simple !!! Just do those things and there will be no more American Lives at risk. BTW, America has supported terriost before to plot an assassination againts Cuban President, Fidel Castro. Why ? Well, the don't like the Cuban *System*. My words to American Government: Mind Your Own Business Hassan
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Where in the world are you when visitors post obscene pictures, and other things which are totally unsuitable for the younger audience that visit codeproject. :confused: Ofcourse on the other hand they might be related to 'MFC, COM and another technologies'
A.A., I'd humbly request you remove the stick from your arse. Where in the world are you when visitors post obscene pictures, and other things which are totally unsuitable for the younger audience that visit codeproject. Sorry. None of us were aware that the eight-year-old coding gurus visiting this programming website would be offended by pictures of the middle finger. We'll try to keep things a bit cleaner in the future, okay? Ofcourse on the other hand they might be related to 'MFC, COM and another technologies'. This is not a programming forum, this is the Lounge. From the description at the top of the page: The Lounge is a place where you can discuss anything that takes your fancy. If you just want to laze about and discuss things that don't quite fit elsewhere, then this is the place. In case you hadn't noticed, 90% of the stuff on this forum has no relation to programming. That's how it was intended. Lighten up.
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Mustafa, Don't get worked up over what people say, frankley there alot of people who are: A. Racist bigots (ie Italian Prime Minister) and/or B. 'Regurgitating' what they hear.
Thanks A.A. What Christian says is like saying "All Christians are assassins since US tried to kill Castro" or "All Christians are idiot because Christian Graus is a real idiot!" :confused: What I mean is that you cannot generalize the facts by using some bad (or good) examples. Anyway, since we are all the Earth citizens, we must learn to live in PEACE and we must be RESPECTFUL. :rose: Hey Christian, you are really a bigot and always trying to insult to Islam. Dont do this again. This is our way of living, and yours is yours!!!!!!!! :mad: Mustafa Demirhan
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Thanks A.A. What Christian says is like saying "All Christians are assassins since US tried to kill Castro" or "All Christians are idiot because Christian Graus is a real idiot!" :confused: What I mean is that you cannot generalize the facts by using some bad (or good) examples. Anyway, since we are all the Earth citizens, we must learn to live in PEACE and we must be RESPECTFUL. :rose: Hey Christian, you are really a bigot and always trying to insult to Islam. Dont do this again. This is our way of living, and yours is yours!!!!!!!! :mad: Mustafa Demirhan
Hi Mustafa, My post did not make a blanket statement against all Muslims. I meant just Afghanistan (I hope you will not dispute that) This is what the red cross tells us about Afghanitan: - Women cannot be treated by male doctors - Women cannot go to school (so chances of a women doctor is ruled out) - International agencies are not welcome, although they allow them. - Emergency care is based on the tribe you belong to. What does these mean? If a women has a serious medical condition, she is NOT ELIGIBLE for medical care. Any law that does not take into account welfare of the people is barbaric. I DO NOT think that Afghan people (or atleast women) want this or deserve this. Since any movement by a non-Islamic coutnry will again trigger religious sentiments, it is up to the international muslim community to condemn these and mobilise efforts to save these people from the atrocities that they face today. In my earler post I was not referring to Muslim individuals, rather Muslim regimes. I was referring to the "laws of the land" in many of these countries. Do MEN and WOMEN have equal rights under Islamic law? I have many muslim friends and am not suggesting that they treat women in an unfair way. They DO NOT. But, then they live in democratic countries. But, I am also suprised about their equi-vocal support to oppressive Islamic regimes, even when they do not want to live under those laws. I do not know which part of the world you are from. But do you really believe that there is a fair treatment and opportunities of women in Afghanistan and many other Muslim countries? Do they get enough opportunities to express themselves, choose the career of their choice, choose to leave an abusive spouse (if such a situation arises) with the same ease as a man could? In short, can women follow their dreams if they wanted to as a man could? Pakistani paper "Dawn" editorial recently stated that "if the government wants to do something that will cause public resentment, they do so in the name of Islam". People are afraid to speakup against atrocities that is done in the name of Islam, because their statements can be used in a way that they are anti-Islamic. T think, this is a dangerous trend that the Muslim community around the world should resist. The people in power (whether it is democratic or monarchy or autocratic) are first concerned about their survival. The world lacks true leaders, men and women who stand up for the good of the people. The problem that many Islamic countries face is that the
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A.A., I'd humbly request you remove the stick from your arse. Where in the world are you when visitors post obscene pictures, and other things which are totally unsuitable for the younger audience that visit codeproject. Sorry. None of us were aware that the eight-year-old coding gurus visiting this programming website would be offended by pictures of the middle finger. We'll try to keep things a bit cleaner in the future, okay? Ofcourse on the other hand they might be related to 'MFC, COM and another technologies'. This is not a programming forum, this is the Lounge. From the description at the top of the page: The Lounge is a place where you can discuss anything that takes your fancy. If you just want to laze about and discuss things that don't quite fit elsewhere, then this is the place. In case you hadn't noticed, 90% of the stuff on this forum has no relation to programming. That's how it was intended. Lighten up.
Its not my style to get in these types of discussions but here it goes. I would advise you to do several things: A. Read what I was replying to. You say 'This is not a programming forum, this is the Lounge' well good then why dont you tell that to the person I was replying to. I was just telling him to be consistent. B. You say 'None of us were aware that the eight-year-old coding gurus visiting this programming website would be offended by pictures of the middle finger.' First of all I wasn't refering to that. Second of all I am amazed by the fact I have to be 8 to be offended. Respect the visitors, and there is a forum for such garbage. And try this advise: Try not to jump to conculsions and have some respect.
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You guys never understood me. I never favoured Saddam Hussien or Osama Bin Ladin. Reasons are obvious. The point i was trying to make was that if the American Government minds it's own business, according to Osama Bin Ladin, there will be no furthur attacks on US of A. BTW, the attack on Isreal was because Isreal stole the land from Palestinan and the Isreali were backed by the USA. Hassan
CIA AgentI think we should be worried about what goes on elsewhere in the world also. It has been high time that nations have principled stance in their foreign policies. All I was saying was that - if basic human freedom is not allowed anywhere in the world, it SHOULD NOT be someone else's business. It should rather be every civilized society's business. We have to help each other out when rogues take control of our society and deny basic freedom. This is exactly what Taliban is doing to the people of Afghanistan. I am just telling you that 'please do not take for granted that everything being done in the name of Islam is right'. Similarly everything done by US is also not correct. But, no country should turn a blind eye to suffering imposed on the people of the same or another country by its own autocratic rulers. I am not against Islam, only those who take advantage of others using Islam. Thomas
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Thanks A.A. What Christian says is like saying "All Christians are assassins since US tried to kill Castro" or "All Christians are idiot because Christian Graus is a real idiot!" :confused: What I mean is that you cannot generalize the facts by using some bad (or good) examples. Anyway, since we are all the Earth citizens, we must learn to live in PEACE and we must be RESPECTFUL. :rose: Hey Christian, you are really a bigot and always trying to insult to Islam. Dont do this again. This is our way of living, and yours is yours!!!!!!!! :mad: Mustafa Demirhan
What Christian says is like saying "All Christians are assassins since US tried to kill Castro" or "All Christians are idiot because Christian Graus is a real idiot!" No, what I was saying was like saying that when you replied with the words 'you STUPID', you failed to make any argument apart from insulting someone, when to the casual observer it is plainly true that there are countries which claim to be Muslim ( regardless of if you agree or not ), where women are oppressed. You apparently are too dumb to refute this claim intelligently, so you just called the poster stupid. What I mean is that you cannot generalize the facts by using some bad (or good) examples. Anyway, since we are all the Earth citizens, we must learn to live in PEACE and we must be RESPECTFUL. You mean like calling people stupid ? Hey Christian, you are really a bigot and always trying to insult to Islam. Dont do this again. This is our way of living, and yours is yours!!!!!!!! Hey, Mustafa, pucker up. It is not bigoted to make a statement of FACT. The FACTS obviously make you uncomfortable, which is why you call racism instead of meeting the facts head on. If you'd responded by saying 'well, some countries are unfair to women but that is not the way of Islam', I'd respect that as your POV. But calling someone stupid because they pointed out something which I backed up as being utterly true ( that some Islamic fundamentalist countries treat women very poorly ) and then calling me racist for making a statement of fact is just pathetic. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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As you know when and if Bush gets and kills Osama Bin Ladin, there will be 10 more Osama Bin Ladin. Osama Bin Ladin is the only major terriost group in the world and the minor ones are all linked to him. Osama Bin Ladin said that he will never ever commit a terrorist attack again if : a) America withdraws his troops from the middle east. b) Stop supporting Isreal. c) Mind their own business If Bush *really* wanted to stop Terrorism, he would do those things. America has nothing to lose by doing those things. Why doesn't America do those things ? It's So Simple !!! Just do those things and there will be no more American Lives at risk. BTW, America has supported terriost before to plot an assassination againts Cuban President, Fidel Castro. Why ? Well, the don't like the Cuban *System*. My words to American Government: Mind Your Own Business Hassan
CIA AgentWell, America will never sell out its allies, Israel is our great hope, Israel is gods people, it says so in the bible, and running over gods people uequals distruction of your self, worser than the depths of hell America will never sell out Israel, for it gods promise is to israel, and i love Israel And by the way i am American, if America turns on Israel, i shall turn on America, for what was our cause for fighting for Independance day in July if we turn on our own friends, Independance day was for all People that yell for freedom and peace
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Hi Mustafa, My post did not make a blanket statement against all Muslims. I meant just Afghanistan (I hope you will not dispute that) This is what the red cross tells us about Afghanitan: - Women cannot be treated by male doctors - Women cannot go to school (so chances of a women doctor is ruled out) - International agencies are not welcome, although they allow them. - Emergency care is based on the tribe you belong to. What does these mean? If a women has a serious medical condition, she is NOT ELIGIBLE for medical care. Any law that does not take into account welfare of the people is barbaric. I DO NOT think that Afghan people (or atleast women) want this or deserve this. Since any movement by a non-Islamic coutnry will again trigger religious sentiments, it is up to the international muslim community to condemn these and mobilise efforts to save these people from the atrocities that they face today. In my earler post I was not referring to Muslim individuals, rather Muslim regimes. I was referring to the "laws of the land" in many of these countries. Do MEN and WOMEN have equal rights under Islamic law? I have many muslim friends and am not suggesting that they treat women in an unfair way. They DO NOT. But, then they live in democratic countries. But, I am also suprised about their equi-vocal support to oppressive Islamic regimes, even when they do not want to live under those laws. I do not know which part of the world you are from. But do you really believe that there is a fair treatment and opportunities of women in Afghanistan and many other Muslim countries? Do they get enough opportunities to express themselves, choose the career of their choice, choose to leave an abusive spouse (if such a situation arises) with the same ease as a man could? In short, can women follow their dreams if they wanted to as a man could? Pakistani paper "Dawn" editorial recently stated that "if the government wants to do something that will cause public resentment, they do so in the name of Islam". People are afraid to speakup against atrocities that is done in the name of Islam, because their statements can be used in a way that they are anti-Islamic. T think, this is a dangerous trend that the Muslim community around the world should resist. The people in power (whether it is democratic or monarchy or autocratic) are first concerned about their survival. The world lacks true leaders, men and women who stand up for the good of the people. The problem that many Islamic countries face is that the
Hi Thomas, I am from Turkey. I thought that you were talking about all Muslims. Sorry for my words. I accept that Islam is misused by many organizations and countires (like Afghanistan). But this is not the way that Islam says us. Mustafa Demirhan
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What Christian says is like saying "All Christians are assassins since US tried to kill Castro" or "All Christians are idiot because Christian Graus is a real idiot!" No, what I was saying was like saying that when you replied with the words 'you STUPID', you failed to make any argument apart from insulting someone, when to the casual observer it is plainly true that there are countries which claim to be Muslim ( regardless of if you agree or not ), where women are oppressed. You apparently are too dumb to refute this claim intelligently, so you just called the poster stupid. What I mean is that you cannot generalize the facts by using some bad (or good) examples. Anyway, since we are all the Earth citizens, we must learn to live in PEACE and we must be RESPECTFUL. You mean like calling people stupid ? Hey Christian, you are really a bigot and always trying to insult to Islam. Dont do this again. This is our way of living, and yours is yours!!!!!!!! Hey, Mustafa, pucker up. It is not bigoted to make a statement of FACT. The FACTS obviously make you uncomfortable, which is why you call racism instead of meeting the facts head on. If you'd responded by saying 'well, some countries are unfair to women but that is not the way of Islam', I'd respect that as your POV. But calling someone stupid because they pointed out something which I backed up as being utterly true ( that some Islamic fundamentalist countries treat women very poorly ) and then calling me racist for making a statement of fact is just pathetic. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
OK. I am saying that 'well, some countries are unfair to women but that is not the way of Islam'. But I am sure that you will not respect it. In your previous posts, you never presented a respectful way of writing. Anyway, as I said before, we have to learn to live in peace... Mustafa Demirhan
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OK. I am saying that 'well, some countries are unfair to women but that is not the way of Islam'. But I am sure that you will not respect it. In your previous posts, you never presented a respectful way of writing. Anyway, as I said before, we have to learn to live in peace... Mustafa Demirhan
OK. I am saying that 'well, some countries are unfair to women but that is not the way of Islam'. But I am sure that you will not respect it. In your previous posts, you never presented a respectful way of writing. Fair enough - I know that the Bible has been misused by people in power, so I won't dispute that the Quran may well be treated in the same way. I have said before I do not respect the Quran as being in any way inspired by God, but I certainly respect your right to disagree with me, and would expect that this disagreement doesn't mean we have to fight or dislike each other. I am generally only disrespectful when I feel people have been the same, at least I hope that is the case. Anyway, as I said before, we have to learn to live in peace... Amen to that. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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Hi Thomas, I am from Turkey. I thought that you were talking about all Muslims. Sorry for my words. I accept that Islam is misused by many organizations and countires (like Afghanistan). But this is not the way that Islam says us. Mustafa Demirhan
I have great respect for the people of Turkey. The fact that you guys have a woman as head of state despite being an Islamic country, points to the fact that Islam does not discriminate against women and that the people of Turkey are not willing to take any bullshit even if it is in the name of religion. I hope that countries like Turkey will come ahead and work towards dispelling the world opinion of Islam being repressive of women (promoted by rulers like those in Afghanistan). -Thomas
