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  • S Shog9 0

    C.x = B.x+sine(ABC-90)*BC C.y = B.y-cosine(ABC-90)*BC = C.x = 100+sine(10)*100 C.y = 10-cosine(10)*100

    I think it's cool that Shog's coding johnson is longer than everyone elses -- JoeSox 10/8/03

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    Smitha Nishant
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    Got it all except that C.y thing. Can't figure out how you got that :-D Smitha Every person, all the events of your life, are there because you have drawn them there. What you choose to do with them is up to you. -- Richard Bach

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      Got it all except that C.y thing. Can't figure out how you got that :-D Smitha Every person, all the events of your life, are there because you have drawn them there. What you choose to do with them is up to you. -- Richard Bach

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      Shog9 0
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      I'm assuming coordinate system where negative Y is down. Invert (10+ not 10-) for typical screen coordinates.

      I think it's cool that Shog's coding johnson is longer than everyone elses -- JoeSox 10/8/03

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        I'm assuming coordinate system where negative Y is down. Invert (10+ not 10-) for typical screen coordinates.

        I think it's cool that Shog's coding johnson is longer than everyone elses -- JoeSox 10/8/03

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        Jason Henderson
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        Your answer was right.

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          Your answer was right.

          "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln

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          Shog9 0
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          Thanks *wanders off to find some coffee*

          I think it's cool that Shog's coding johnson is longer than everyone elses -- JoeSox 10/8/03

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          • M MS le Roux

            Remind me - what does Theta represent?

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            Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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            Theta was the angle ABC. In this case, 100 degrees. Iain.

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            • I Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer

              I am assuming that ptC is just a little to the right of straight down from B. Just to check my vision of what you want is correct. ptC.x = ptB.x - |BC| cos (Theta); ptC.y = ptB.y - |BC| sin (Theta); |BC| = |AB| = 90 Theta = 100o = PI/4 + a bit. So, C = (115.63, -78.63). How's that? Iain.

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              Jason Henderson
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              The length of BC is off by 10.

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              • M MS le Roux

                I'm playing around with graphing, and I'm trying to figure out the following: Draw a line from point A (0,10) to point B (100,10). Now draw a line from point B to point C, in such a way that C is below B, and angle ABC is 100 degrees. AB and BC have the same length. How do you calculate the coordinates of point C?

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                RChin
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                Draw a line from point A (0,10) to point B (100,10). Now draw a line from point B to point C, in such a way that C is below B, and angle ABC is 100 degrees. AB and BC have the same length. OK, Now my solution is as follows: (NB: I haven't done any trig. maths for quite a few years, so my memory of most trig equations are a little sketchy. Forgive my pathetic excuse of a text graph :~

                ^
                |
                |

                A(0,10) B(100,10) x D

                *'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''*''''''''''''+ -
                | 100 \ 90'
                | \ '
                | \ '
                | \ '
                | \ ' y
                | \ '
                | \ '
                | \ '
                | \ '
                | \ '
                +-------------------------------+--------> \ '
                |(0,0) 100 \'
                | * C

                AB = BC = 100
                A<B>C = 100 deg.
                ~ C<B>D = 180 - 100 = 80 deg.
                ~ B<C>D = 180 - (90+80) = 10 deg.

                since BC = 100:
                y/BC = COS(B<C>D)
                y/100 = COS(10);
                := y = 100 * COS(10) = 98.48

                X/BC = SIN(10)
                X = 100 * Sin(10) = 17.365

                ~ C = ( 100 + X, 10 - Y )
                = (117.365, -88.48)

                .QED.

                (i'm sure some of you will prove me wrong) **I Dream of Absolute Zero


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                  AB and BC are the same length, so we can assume they are radii of a circle with the origin at (100,10). Using polar coordinates, x=radius*(Cosine(Theta)) and y=radius*(Sine(Theta)): x=(100*cos(280)+100) = 117.365 y=(100*sin(280)+10) = -88.481 Roughly. If you apply the distance formula: distance=sqrt((x2-x1)^2 + (y2-y1)^2)) distance=sqrt(17^2 + (-98)^2)=sqrt(289+9604)=99.464 Pretty close to 100.

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                  David Stone
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                  Well, you got it right...but my question is why didn't you just use cos(80) and sin(80)

                  We're given this:
                  100
                  A--------------------B
                  θ=100° \
                  \
                  100\
                  \
                  \
                  \
                  C

                  Now, if we draw an imaginary triange the other way, we can say that φ=80° because of supplementary angles.
                  Then we can say that Cx = 100 + 100 cos(80°) and Cy = 100 sin(80°):

                        100 
                  

                  A--------------------B======|
                  θ=100° \φ=80°|
                  \ |
                  100\ |
                  \ |
                  \ |
                  \|
                  C

                  What's with cos and sin of 280? Where does that come from? [EDIT] Hey, if you highlight everything in the pre tags, it looks like a guy with a really long nose and a little cap on. :-D [/EDIT]


                  When I can talk about 64 bit processors and attract girls with my computer not my car, I'll come out of the closet. Until that time...I'm like "What's the ENTER key?" -Hockey on being a geek

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                    Draw a line from point A (0,10) to point B (100,10). Now draw a line from point B to point C, in such a way that C is below B, and angle ABC is 100 degrees. AB and BC have the same length. OK, Now my solution is as follows: (NB: I haven't done any trig. maths for quite a few years, so my memory of most trig equations are a little sketchy. Forgive my pathetic excuse of a text graph :~

                    ^
                    |
                    |

                    A(0,10) B(100,10) x D

                    *'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''*''''''''''''+ -
                    | 100 \ 90'
                    | \ '
                    | \ '
                    | \ '
                    | \ ' y
                    | \ '
                    | \ '
                    | \ '
                    | \ '
                    | \ '
                    +-------------------------------+--------> \ '
                    |(0,0) 100 \'
                    | * C

                    AB = BC = 100
                    A<B>C = 100 deg.
                    ~ C<B>D = 180 - 100 = 80 deg.
                    ~ B<C>D = 180 - (90+80) = 10 deg.

                    since BC = 100:
                    y/BC = COS(B<C>D)
                    y/100 = COS(10);
                    := y = 100 * COS(10) = 98.48

                    X/BC = SIN(10)
                    X = 100 * Sin(10) = 17.365

                    ~ C = ( 100 + X, 10 - Y )
                    = (117.365, -88.48)

                    .QED.

                    (i'm sure some of you will prove me wrong) **I Dream of Absolute Zero


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                    David Stone
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                    You got it right. You just went through a very roundabout way of doing it. :)


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                      Well, you got it right...but my question is why didn't you just use cos(80) and sin(80)

                      We're given this:
                      100
                      A--------------------B
                      θ=100° \
                      \
                      100\
                      \
                      \
                      \
                      C

                      Now, if we draw an imaginary triange the other way, we can say that φ=80° because of supplementary angles.
                      Then we can say that Cx = 100 + 100 cos(80°) and Cy = 100 sin(80°):

                            100 
                      

                      A--------------------B======|
                      θ=100° \φ=80°|
                      \ |
                      100\ |
                      \ |
                      \ |
                      \|
                      C

                      What's with cos and sin of 280? Where does that come from? [EDIT] Hey, if you highlight everything in the pre tags, it looks like a guy with a really long nose and a little cap on. :-D [/EDIT]


                      When I can talk about 64 bit processors and attract girls with my computer not my car, I'll come out of the closet. Until that time...I'm like "What's the ENTER key?" -Hockey on being a geek

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                      Jason Henderson
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                      David Stone wrote: What's with cos and sin of 280? Where does that come from? Think of it as a circle with the origin at 100,10 with a radius of 100. AB is 180 from BX (BX being the line from (100,10)-(200,10). When we add another 100 to get the ABC angle, that equals 280 on our circle. I haven't had trig for a while, but the polar coordinate system is pretty simple for me. For problems like this, I always try to think in terms of a circle.

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                        David Stone wrote: What's with cos and sin of 280? Where does that come from? Think of it as a circle with the origin at 100,10 with a radius of 100. AB is 180 from BX (BX being the line from (100,10)-(200,10). When we add another 100 to get the ABC angle, that equals 280 on our circle. I haven't had trig for a while, but the polar coordinate system is pretty simple for me. For problems like this, I always try to think in terms of a circle.

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                        Jason Henderson wrote: Think of it as a circle with the origin at 100,10 with a radius of 100. AB is 180 from BX (BX being the line from (100,10)-(200,10). When we add another 100 to get the ABC angle, that equals 280 on our circle. Ah, that makes sense...okay. I see your point. Jason Henderson wrote: I haven't had trig for a while, but the polar coordinate system is pretty simple for me. I use trig a lot in Physics and 3rd semester calculus. So that's why I immediately go for trig. I learned to hate polar coordinates last semester. Ever try integrating polar equations? X|


                        When I can talk about 64 bit processors and attract girls with my computer not my car, I'll come out of the closet. Until that time...I'm like "What's the ENTER key?" -Hockey on being a geek

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                        • D David Stone

                          You got it right. You just went through a very roundabout way of doing it. :)


                          When I can talk about 64 bit processors and attract girls with my computer not my car, I'll come out of the closet. Until that time...I'm like "What's the ENTER key?" -Hockey on being a geek

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                          I haven't done these sort of maths in YEARS! I've still got it.... :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: yeah! **I Dream of Absolute Zero


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                            I haven't done these sort of maths in YEARS! I've still got it.... :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: yeah! **I Dream of Absolute Zero


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                            Isn't math fun? :)


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                              Remind me - what does Theta represent?

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                              In Portuguese, "boobies" :)


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                                Jason Henderson wrote: Think of it as a circle with the origin at 100,10 with a radius of 100. AB is 180 from BX (BX being the line from (100,10)-(200,10). When we add another 100 to get the ABC angle, that equals 280 on our circle. Ah, that makes sense...okay. I see your point. Jason Henderson wrote: I haven't had trig for a while, but the polar coordinate system is pretty simple for me. I use trig a lot in Physics and 3rd semester calculus. So that's why I immediately go for trig. I learned to hate polar coordinates last semester. Ever try integrating polar equations? X|


                                When I can talk about 64 bit processors and attract girls with my computer not my car, I'll come out of the closet. Until that time...I'm like "What's the ENTER key?" -Hockey on being a geek

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                                Jason Henderson
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                                Trig is all about circles. :cool: David Stone wrote: Ever try integrating polar equations? Not that I recall.

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                                  Trig is all about circles. :cool: David Stone wrote: Ever try integrating polar equations? Not that I recall.

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                                  Jason Henderson wrote: Trig is all about circles. Trig is all about triangles. At least that's what I was always told...and that's what I've seen. Jason Henderson wrote: Not that I recall. Lucky...it's not fun at all.


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                                    Isn't math fun? :)


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                                    Some of my students are not enjoying it much.:( Last week's exam results were so bad that I'm retesting in a week. Seriously, you'd think that people who do perfectly on homework would pay attention on an exam, rather than racing through it and failing to read the questions completely.:doh: "Your village called -
                                    They're missing their idiot."

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                                      Jason Henderson wrote: Trig is all about circles. Trig is all about triangles. At least that's what I was always told...and that's what I've seen. Jason Henderson wrote: Not that I recall. Lucky...it's not fun at all.


                                      When I can talk about 64 bit processors and attract girls with my computer not my car, I'll come out of the closet. Until that time...I'm like "What's the ENTER key?" -Hockey on being a geek

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                                      Jason Henderson
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                                      The basics of trig were taught to me using a circle of radius 1. Almost anything can be broken into right triangles and the hypotenouses of those triangles can be seen as the radius of a circle.

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                                      • M MS le Roux

                                        I'm playing around with graphing, and I'm trying to figure out the following: Draw a line from point A (0,10) to point B (100,10). Now draw a line from point B to point C, in such a way that C is below B, and angle ABC is 100 degrees. AB and BC have the same length. How do you calculate the coordinates of point C?

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                                        brianwelsch
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                                        The answer is a set of coordinates, isn't it? anything on the ray starting at B through some point C which satisfies your criteria, is actually a valid response. I'm I way off my thinking here?

                                        "The beat goes on.. da-da-dum dadum dum"

                                        BW

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                                          Some of my students are not enjoying it much.:( Last week's exam results were so bad that I'm retesting in a week. Seriously, you'd think that people who do perfectly on homework would pay attention on an exam, rather than racing through it and failing to read the questions completely.:doh: "Your village called -
                                          They're missing their idiot."

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                                          Last week's exam results were so bad that I'm retesting in a week. Seriously, you'd think that people who do perfectly on homework would pay attention on an exam, rather than racing through it and failing to read the questions completely or id think they cheat on their homework lol todo.... :: insert inpirational text here ::

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