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  • D David Stone

    Well, you got it right...but my question is why didn't you just use cos(80) and sin(80)

    We're given this:
    100
    A--------------------B
    θ=100° \
    \
    100\
    \
    \
    \
    C

    Now, if we draw an imaginary triange the other way, we can say that φ=80° because of supplementary angles.
    Then we can say that Cx = 100 + 100 cos(80°) and Cy = 100 sin(80°):

          100 
    

    A--------------------B======|
    θ=100° \φ=80°|
    \ |
    100\ |
    \ |
    \ |
    \|
    C

    What's with cos and sin of 280? Where does that come from? [EDIT] Hey, if you highlight everything in the pre tags, it looks like a guy with a really long nose and a little cap on. :-D [/EDIT]


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    Jason Henderson
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    David Stone wrote: What's with cos and sin of 280? Where does that come from? Think of it as a circle with the origin at 100,10 with a radius of 100. AB is 180 from BX (BX being the line from (100,10)-(200,10). When we add another 100 to get the ABC angle, that equals 280 on our circle. I haven't had trig for a while, but the polar coordinate system is pretty simple for me. For problems like this, I always try to think in terms of a circle.

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      David Stone wrote: What's with cos and sin of 280? Where does that come from? Think of it as a circle with the origin at 100,10 with a radius of 100. AB is 180 from BX (BX being the line from (100,10)-(200,10). When we add another 100 to get the ABC angle, that equals 280 on our circle. I haven't had trig for a while, but the polar coordinate system is pretty simple for me. For problems like this, I always try to think in terms of a circle.

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      David Stone
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      Jason Henderson wrote: Think of it as a circle with the origin at 100,10 with a radius of 100. AB is 180 from BX (BX being the line from (100,10)-(200,10). When we add another 100 to get the ABC angle, that equals 280 on our circle. Ah, that makes sense...okay. I see your point. Jason Henderson wrote: I haven't had trig for a while, but the polar coordinate system is pretty simple for me. I use trig a lot in Physics and 3rd semester calculus. So that's why I immediately go for trig. I learned to hate polar coordinates last semester. Ever try integrating polar equations? X|


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      • D David Stone

        You got it right. You just went through a very roundabout way of doing it. :)


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        I haven't done these sort of maths in YEARS! I've still got it.... :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: yeah! **I Dream of Absolute Zero


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          I haven't done these sort of maths in YEARS! I've still got it.... :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: :jig: yeah! **I Dream of Absolute Zero


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          David Stone
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          Isn't math fun? :)


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          • M MS le Roux

            Remind me - what does Theta represent?

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            Daniel Turini
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            In Portuguese, "boobies" :)


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            • D David Stone

              Jason Henderson wrote: Think of it as a circle with the origin at 100,10 with a radius of 100. AB is 180 from BX (BX being the line from (100,10)-(200,10). When we add another 100 to get the ABC angle, that equals 280 on our circle. Ah, that makes sense...okay. I see your point. Jason Henderson wrote: I haven't had trig for a while, but the polar coordinate system is pretty simple for me. I use trig a lot in Physics and 3rd semester calculus. So that's why I immediately go for trig. I learned to hate polar coordinates last semester. Ever try integrating polar equations? X|


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              Jason Henderson
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              Trig is all about circles. :cool: David Stone wrote: Ever try integrating polar equations? Not that I recall.

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              • J Jason Henderson

                Trig is all about circles. :cool: David Stone wrote: Ever try integrating polar equations? Not that I recall.

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                David Stone
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                Jason Henderson wrote: Trig is all about circles. Trig is all about triangles. At least that's what I was always told...and that's what I've seen. Jason Henderson wrote: Not that I recall. Lucky...it's not fun at all.


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                • D David Stone

                  Isn't math fun? :)


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                  Roger Wright
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                  Some of my students are not enjoying it much.:( Last week's exam results were so bad that I'm retesting in a week. Seriously, you'd think that people who do perfectly on homework would pay attention on an exam, rather than racing through it and failing to read the questions completely.:doh: "Your village called -
                  They're missing their idiot."

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                  • D David Stone

                    Jason Henderson wrote: Trig is all about circles. Trig is all about triangles. At least that's what I was always told...and that's what I've seen. Jason Henderson wrote: Not that I recall. Lucky...it's not fun at all.


                    When I can talk about 64 bit processors and attract girls with my computer not my car, I'll come out of the closet. Until that time...I'm like "What's the ENTER key?" -Hockey on being a geek

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                    Jason Henderson
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                    The basics of trig were taught to me using a circle of radius 1. Almost anything can be broken into right triangles and the hypotenouses of those triangles can be seen as the radius of a circle.

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                    • M MS le Roux

                      I'm playing around with graphing, and I'm trying to figure out the following: Draw a line from point A (0,10) to point B (100,10). Now draw a line from point B to point C, in such a way that C is below B, and angle ABC is 100 degrees. AB and BC have the same length. How do you calculate the coordinates of point C?

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                      The answer is a set of coordinates, isn't it? anything on the ray starting at B through some point C which satisfies your criteria, is actually a valid response. I'm I way off my thinking here?

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                      • R Roger Wright

                        Some of my students are not enjoying it much.:( Last week's exam results were so bad that I'm retesting in a week. Seriously, you'd think that people who do perfectly on homework would pay attention on an exam, rather than racing through it and failing to read the questions completely.:doh: "Your village called -
                        They're missing their idiot."

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                        joshfl
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                        Last week's exam results were so bad that I'm retesting in a week. Seriously, you'd think that people who do perfectly on homework would pay attention on an exam, rather than racing through it and failing to read the questions completely or id think they cheat on their homework lol todo.... :: insert inpirational text here ::

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                        • D Daniel Turini

                          In Portuguese, "boobies" :)


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                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                          :laugh: I gotta remember that the next time I hit on a portugese speaking female mathematician/physicist. :-D "Hey baby. If you let me get cosine with your theta, I'll make you breakfast in the morning!" :-D -- Yeah well, my daddy can beat up your daddy!

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                          • J Jason Henderson

                            AB and BC are the same length, so we can assume they are radii of a circle with the origin at (100,10). Using polar coordinates, x=radius*(Cosine(Theta)) and y=radius*(Sine(Theta)): x=(100*cos(280)+100) = 117.365 y=(100*sin(280)+10) = -88.481 Roughly. If you apply the distance formula: distance=sqrt((x2-x1)^2 + (y2-y1)^2)) distance=sqrt(17^2 + (-98)^2)=sqrt(289+9604)=99.464 Pretty close to 100.

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            When I read this, I think it's high time that MathML is assimilated into the web standards collective (IE, Mozilla, you name it). Imagine all the beautiful and geeky stuff we could write in the lounge! :-D I remember the university days with LATEX. Heck, even I could write really good looking reports with it. :cool: -- Yeah well, my daddy can beat up your daddy!

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                            • J Jason Henderson

                              The length of BC is off by 10.

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                              Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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                              Oops. :doh: I read it as (100,10) - (10,10)! My trig was right though. Until someone corrects me on that! Iain

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