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  • J Josh Knox

    Any body had any startup problems with winXP? Mine locks up alot just as its going to load the desktop. Nothing works except rebooting the machine. Then I've gotta go into safe mode and selectively eliminate the drivers and services that are loading, repeatedly rebooting the system, until it works. I jumped from win98 to xp hoping that the stability issues would disappear. It does run great when its running. I just cant get to boot reliably. At least with my linux system i'm usually one to blame if it crashes. With windows there's no one to blame but M$. Josh josh@that-guy.net

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    Todd Smith
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    Did you do a fresh install or upgrade? If you're getting lockups it's most likely driver related.

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      Did you do a fresh install or upgrade? If you're getting lockups it's most likely driver related.

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      Josh Knox
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      It was an upgrade. I dont want to do a fresh install. I've done way too many fresh installs because of microsoft products. And its never a 'fresh' install with them. It just keeps stinkin' like the same old shite. AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Josh josh@that-guy.net

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      • J Josh Knox

        Any body had any startup problems with winXP? Mine locks up alot just as its going to load the desktop. Nothing works except rebooting the machine. Then I've gotta go into safe mode and selectively eliminate the drivers and services that are loading, repeatedly rebooting the system, until it works. I jumped from win98 to xp hoping that the stability issues would disappear. It does run great when its running. I just cant get to boot reliably. At least with my linux system i'm usually one to blame if it crashes. With windows there's no one to blame but M$. Josh josh@that-guy.net

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        David Wulff
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        With windows there's no one to blame but M$. How so?

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        • J Josh Knox

          It was an upgrade. I dont want to do a fresh install. I've done way too many fresh installs because of microsoft products. And its never a 'fresh' install with them. It just keeps stinkin' like the same old shite. AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Josh josh@that-guy.net

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          Paul Watson
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          Golden rule of installing Microsoft OS's: Do a fresh install, never upgrade. Every upgrade I have ever attempted was a failure. I rarely have problems with fresh installs though. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001

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          • J Josh Knox

            It was an upgrade. I dont want to do a fresh install. I've done way too many fresh installs because of microsoft products. And its never a 'fresh' install with them. It just keeps stinkin' like the same old shite. AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Josh josh@that-guy.net

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            Simon Walton
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            On a related topic, I have a few questions about WinXP if anyone could answer them; 1) What information does the upgrade edition require for the activation stage? My old OS serial number? My address? My eye colour? My DNA code? 2) Does the upgrade edition of XP have any problems, like the upgrade edition of Win98 did? 3) Has anyone found out if it's possible to run 98/XP on the same system, using partitions or otherwise? Simon

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              On a related topic, I have a few questions about WinXP if anyone could answer them; 1) What information does the upgrade edition require for the activation stage? My old OS serial number? My address? My eye colour? My DNA code? 2) Does the upgrade edition of XP have any problems, like the upgrade edition of Win98 did? 3) Has anyone found out if it's possible to run 98/XP on the same system, using partitions or otherwise? Simon

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              David Wulff
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              1. I believe you need to submit an electronic image of your blood makeup. You can get your local hospital or drug testing clinic to make one up for you. 2) NAFC. I never trust upgrades, as they leave too many bits from previous incarnations in all over the place. 3) Yes it is, I run Win2k Pro, Win2k Srv, Win 98 and Win XP RC2, all on the same machine.

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              Dr David Wulff, Phd Aqkuoerian Sciences dwulff@battleaxesoftware.nospam.com Founder of The BLA iF yuo find speeling mistkaes, don;t blaem me, blaem my keybord.

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                1. I believe you need to submit an electronic image of your blood makeup. You can get your local hospital or drug testing clinic to make one up for you. 2) NAFC. I never trust upgrades, as they leave too many bits from previous incarnations in all over the place. 3) Yes it is, I run Win2k Pro, Win2k Srv, Win 98 and Win XP RC2, all on the same machine.

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                Dr David Wulff, Phd Aqkuoerian Sciences dwulff@battleaxesoftware.nospam.com Founder of The BLA iF yuo find speeling mistkaes, don;t blaem me, blaem my keybord.

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                Simon Walton
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                1. Wow, that's all the personal data MS want from their customers? I was expecting urine samples, life history, and a pound of flesh... 2) Hmm, i thought so. Still, it's half the price isn't it :) 3) Using which boot manager? Simon
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                  1. Wow, that's all the personal data MS want from their customers? I was expecting urine samples, life history, and a pound of flesh... 2) Hmm, i thought so. Still, it's half the price isn't it :) 3) Using which boot manager? Simon
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                  David Wulff
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                  1. The life history is the optional part. 2) That's what MSDN's for. Buy the upgrade for your PDC, then install the full version from the MSDN disks using the upgrade's product key. 3) WinXP's

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                  • J Josh Knox

                    Any body had any startup problems with winXP? Mine locks up alot just as its going to load the desktop. Nothing works except rebooting the machine. Then I've gotta go into safe mode and selectively eliminate the drivers and services that are loading, repeatedly rebooting the system, until it works. I jumped from win98 to xp hoping that the stability issues would disappear. It does run great when its running. I just cant get to boot reliably. At least with my linux system i'm usually one to blame if it crashes. With windows there's no one to blame but M$. Josh josh@that-guy.net

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                    joefor
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                    Ask Microsoft for help - that's what you paid for. Unless you got the 75pence version from China.

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                      1. The life history is the optional part. 2) That's what MSDN's for. Buy the upgrade for your PDC, then install the full version from the MSDN disks using the upgrade's product key. 3) WinXP's

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                      Dr David Wulff, Phd Aqkuoerian Sciences dwulff@battleaxesoftware.nospam.com Founder of The BLA iF yuo find speeling mistkaes, don;t blaem me, blaem my keybord.

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                      Simon Walton
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                      1. How kind! 2) I'm not an MSDN subscriber. Perhaps there's a student licenced edition available. 3) Horrah! I bet the home edition doesn't have it though. Simon
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                      • J Josh Knox

                        Any body had any startup problems with winXP? Mine locks up alot just as its going to load the desktop. Nothing works except rebooting the machine. Then I've gotta go into safe mode and selectively eliminate the drivers and services that are loading, repeatedly rebooting the system, until it works. I jumped from win98 to xp hoping that the stability issues would disappear. It does run great when its running. I just cant get to boot reliably. At least with my linux system i'm usually one to blame if it crashes. With windows there's no one to blame but M$. Josh josh@that-guy.net

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                        At least with my linux system i'm usually one to blame if it crashes. With windows there's no one to blame but M$. If this were true then everyone would have the problem. The problem is one of your drivers, and it's the writer of the driver who is at fault. Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001

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                          At least with my linux system i'm usually one to blame if it crashes. With windows there's no one to blame but M$. If this were true then everyone would have the problem. The problem is one of your drivers, and it's the writer of the driver who is at fault. Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001

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                          Actually with Linux, you don't know who to blame, or even where to start looking. With Windows, you know the evil bastards responsible reside in Redmond. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          • J Josh Knox

                            Any body had any startup problems with winXP? Mine locks up alot just as its going to load the desktop. Nothing works except rebooting the machine. Then I've gotta go into safe mode and selectively eliminate the drivers and services that are loading, repeatedly rebooting the system, until it works. I jumped from win98 to xp hoping that the stability issues would disappear. It does run great when its running. I just cant get to boot reliably. At least with my linux system i'm usually one to blame if it crashes. With windows there's no one to blame but M$. Josh josh@that-guy.net

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                            At least with my linux system i'm usually one to blame if it crashes. With windows there's no one to blame but M$. Actually, the blame almost certainly lies with driver writers. I've never had this problem when I tried various Linus installs, because they invariably have not supported my devices!! ----------------------------- "My name is Sven und I am from Sveden. I am making das moovies mit mine friend Inga, fvor ve are very poor." - Christian Graus, Oct 29 2001 -----------------------------

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