We locked you up in jail for 25 years and you were innocent all along?
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That’ll be £80,000* please.... WHAT do you give someone who’s been proved innocent after spending the best part of their life behind bars, wrongfully convicted of a crime they didn’t commit?[^] Well, all I can say is that this is totally outrageous. There are no words strong enough to describe it. *£80,000 = US$144,000 or €116,000
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
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That’ll be £80,000* please.... WHAT do you give someone who’s been proved innocent after spending the best part of their life behind bars, wrongfully convicted of a crime they didn’t commit?[^] Well, all I can say is that this is totally outrageous. There are no words strong enough to describe it. *£80,000 = US$144,000 or €116,000
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
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In recent years, however, numerous studies have found that one in seven people sent to death row are later proven innocent. And in one disturbing recent case, a prisoner was 48 hours from execution when he was proven innocent. In the last 25 years, 102 innocent people have been released from death row. http://www.aclu.org/DeathPenalty/DeathPenalty.cfm?ID=9961&c=65[^] And who is the number one proponent of death sentence: Bush! jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
jhaga wrote: And who is the number one proponent of death sentence: Bush! Bush gets blamed for a lot of stuff, and although I believe he supports the death penalty, I would hardly call him it's number one proponent. I presume you say this because of the number of death penalty's that were carried out in Texas during his administration. If so, I would point out that although he chose not to stop any, he did not pass any of those sentances, and all who were executed had exhausted their appeals (a process that can require 25-30 years). To blame bush for merely concurring with the original jury, and all appeals courts involved, is a bit extreme. Needless Bush-bashing methinks...(it is not as if Texas was the only state -or country- that carried out death sentances in that time frame):| Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
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That’ll be £80,000* please.... WHAT do you give someone who’s been proved innocent after spending the best part of their life behind bars, wrongfully convicted of a crime they didn’t commit?[^] Well, all I can say is that this is totally outrageous. There are no words strong enough to describe it. *£80,000 = US$144,000 or €116,000
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
Stupid is as stupid does! X| Jeremy Falcon
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Stupid is as stupid does! X| Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Stupid is as stupid does! I feel it's more "Stupid is as Blunkett does", myself. I had considered writing a letter to him saying that you'd have to be blind to not notice how stupid various proposals he's had in the past are, but unfortunately - he is blind :rolleyes: (That's not to knock blind people, BTW)
Ian Darling "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
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KaЯl wrote: UK would have then to withdraw from the EU. Indeed, it could be a good idea Hey! What is wrong with the UK being in the EU?
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
Colin Angus Mackay wrote: What is wrong with the UK being in the EU? it blocks the european integration, even if it slowly evolves? (rejection of Schengen, Euroland, solidarity bigger towards the US than to the other EU members, denying for years the construction of an european defence...) There's a big misunderstanding between UK and most of the other members: UK wants a free trade zone and only that, when the others, since the Rome Treaty, seek for a biggest political integration.
Dansez sur moi, dansez sur moi, Le soir de mes funerailles Que la vie soit feu d'artifice Et la mort un feu de paille Claude Nougaro (1929-2004)
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In recent years, however, numerous studies have found that one in seven people sent to death row are later proven innocent. And in one disturbing recent case, a prisoner was 48 hours from execution when he was proven innocent. In the last 25 years, 102 innocent people have been released from death row. http://www.aclu.org/DeathPenalty/DeathPenalty.cfm?ID=9961&c=65[^] And who is the number one proponent of death sentence: Bush! jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
jhaga wrote: In the last 25 years, 102 innocent people have been released from death row. Good thing we have safeguards, like appeals, etc. which allow the system to catch some mistakes. They were released, ie. did not get sentenced to death. BW CP Member Homepages
"...take what you need and leave the rest..."
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Stupid is as stupid does! I feel it's more "Stupid is as Blunkett does", myself. I had considered writing a letter to him saying that you'd have to be blind to not notice how stupid various proposals he's had in the past are, but unfortunately - he is blind :rolleyes: (That's not to knock blind people, BTW)
Ian Darling "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
Ian Darling wrote: I had considered writing a letter to him saying that you'd have to be blind to not notice how stupid various proposals he's had in the past are I suppose the only good thing to being stupid is that he's too stupid to know he's stupid. BTW, your pic so reminds me of Ozzy Osbourne. :) Jeremy Falcon
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Ian Darling wrote: I had considered writing a letter to him saying that you'd have to be blind to not notice how stupid various proposals he's had in the past are I suppose the only good thing to being stupid is that he's too stupid to know he's stupid. BTW, your pic so reminds me of Ozzy Osbourne. :) Jeremy Falcon
This is what i understand from this crap. It seems like governement have found new TaxPayers. Also i am curious who found that these people are not guilty. If it is the governement, it will makes sense for him to get a bonus for "freeing" you. But now since the people are pissed off the governement will spend less ressources in tring to find if you are innocent or not. The moral of the history: dont keep money on lawers, you will loose it anywa y X|
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Ian Darling wrote: I had considered writing a letter to him saying that you'd have to be blind to not notice how stupid various proposals he's had in the past are I suppose the only good thing to being stupid is that he's too stupid to know he's stupid. BTW, your pic so reminds me of Ozzy Osbourne. :) Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: BTW, your pic so reminds me of Ozzy Osbourne. ;P At least that's better than Duck Man - Paul Watsons description of my picture :-)
Ian Darling "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
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In recent years, however, numerous studies have found that one in seven people sent to death row are later proven innocent. And in one disturbing recent case, a prisoner was 48 hours from execution when he was proven innocent. In the last 25 years, 102 innocent people have been released from death row. http://www.aclu.org/DeathPenalty/DeathPenalty.cfm?ID=9961&c=65[^] And who is the number one proponent of death sentence: Bush! jhaga --------------------------------- Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. Henry David Thoreau, "Walden", 1854
Maybe people who support the death penalty should go and talk to the families of those who are found to be innocent after they die ? The tigress is here :-D
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FUCK FUCK FUCK! Outrageous! Who the fuck is that Blunkett, and why does he still have a job!? The guy who did the time should have £800,000 back - at least! Someone ought to make Blunkett do the 25 years. -- Futue te et ipsum caballum.
Blunkett could cost the Labour Party the next election. The tigress is here :-D
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That is absolutely disgusting. Blunkett is a complete pratt. :mad: Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
I didn't think you hated pratts that much ! The tigress is here :-D
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jhaga wrote: In the last 25 years, 102 innocent people have been released from death row. Good thing we have safeguards, like appeals, etc. which allow the system to catch some mistakes. They were released, ie. did not get sentenced to death. BW CP Member Homepages
"...take what you need and leave the rest..."
brianwelsch wrote: which allow the system to catch some mistakes How many innocents did die though ? The tigress is here :-D
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That’ll be £80,000* please.... WHAT do you give someone who’s been proved innocent after spending the best part of their life behind bars, wrongfully convicted of a crime they didn’t commit?[^] Well, all I can say is that this is totally outrageous. There are no words strong enough to describe it. *£80,000 = US$144,000 or €116,000
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Well, all I can say is that this is totally outrageous. There are no words strong enough to describe it. If Blunkett was a Tory I would bet he would place a plastic bag oiver his head before his boyfriend arse fucked him. Do the Labour brigade have any of this perverted shit on the books. On Tuesday, Blunkett will fight in the Royal Courts of Justice in London for the right to charge victims of miscarriages of justice more than £3000 for every year they spent in jail while wrongly convicted. The logic is that the innocent man shouldn’t have been in prison eating free porridge and sleeping for nothing under regulation grey blankets. So can the people who were wrongly convicted and now charged board and lodging counter-sue for loss of wages? I mean this Blunkett wanker is saying that these people would have had to pay for food and housing and that is why he is charging them. But if they weren't in prison they would have had a job or at least been given unemployment benefits to achieve this. Do they get paid while in prison? Michael Martin Australia "I suspect I will be impressed though, I am easy." - Paul Watson 21/09/2003
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brianwelsch wrote: which allow the system to catch some mistakes How many innocents did die though ? The tigress is here :-D
I couldn't find that number, but I would wager that there are significantly more families that have the murderer of their loved ones roaming free, than there are families who have an innocent family member executed. BW CP Member Homepages
"...take what you need and leave the rest..."
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: What is wrong with the UK being in the EU? it blocks the european integration, even if it slowly evolves? (rejection of Schengen, Euroland, solidarity bigger towards the US than to the other EU members, denying for years the construction of an european defence...) There's a big misunderstanding between UK and most of the other members: UK wants a free trade zone and only that, when the others, since the Rome Treaty, seek for a biggest political integration.
Dansez sur moi, dansez sur moi, Le soir de mes funerailles Que la vie soit feu d'artifice Et la mort un feu de paille Claude Nougaro (1929-2004)
KaЯl wrote: There's a big misunderstanding between UK and most of the other members I would suggest that it is between "little Englanders"* and europe. Recent polls in show that Scotland is more welcoming of tighter integration with Europe (although the EU is pissing off Scottish fishermen so it's not winning any medals there) I for one would prefer to use the Euro, I would prefer to be signed up for the full Schengen agreement and be more close to Europe. I am broadly in support of a USE [United States of Europe] being formed. I am going to throw loads of roses on the EU however. The draft constitution has to be reduced to no more than 500 words IMO - the current 30,000 (I think) is way too much. * Those people who think that England, having lost its empire, is a now weak country in need of as much protection from its enemies (and it still has its historically blinkered view that the enemies are the centuries old ones in Europe) it can get.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Well, all I can say is that this is totally outrageous. There are no words strong enough to describe it. If Blunkett was a Tory I would bet he would place a plastic bag oiver his head before his boyfriend arse fucked him. Do the Labour brigade have any of this perverted shit on the books. On Tuesday, Blunkett will fight in the Royal Courts of Justice in London for the right to charge victims of miscarriages of justice more than £3000 for every year they spent in jail while wrongly convicted. The logic is that the innocent man shouldn’t have been in prison eating free porridge and sleeping for nothing under regulation grey blankets. So can the people who were wrongly convicted and now charged board and lodging counter-sue for loss of wages? I mean this Blunkett wanker is saying that these people would have had to pay for food and housing and that is why he is charging them. But if they weren't in prison they would have had a job or at least been given unemployment benefits to achieve this. Do they get paid while in prison? Michael Martin Australia "I suspect I will be impressed though, I am easy." - Paul Watson 21/09/2003
Michael Martin wrote: the Labour brigade have any of this perverted sh*t on the books. None of the sexual stuff, but the Deputy Prime Minister did punch someone over a wall about 3 years ago.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
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KaЯl wrote: There's a big misunderstanding between UK and most of the other members I would suggest that it is between "little Englanders"* and europe. Recent polls in show that Scotland is more welcoming of tighter integration with Europe (although the EU is pissing off Scottish fishermen so it's not winning any medals there) I for one would prefer to use the Euro, I would prefer to be signed up for the full Schengen agreement and be more close to Europe. I am broadly in support of a USE [United States of Europe] being formed. I am going to throw loads of roses on the EU however. The draft constitution has to be reduced to no more than 500 words IMO - the current 30,000 (I think) is way too much. * Those people who think that England, having lost its empire, is a now weak country in need of as much protection from its enemies (and it still has its historically blinkered view that the enemies are the centuries old ones in Europe) it can get.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
Colin Angus Mackay wrote: I would suggest that it is between "little Englanders"* and europe. I searched yesterday across the web and didn't find any data. Were polls made to evaluate how representative they are in UK? Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Recent polls in show that Scotland is more welcoming of tighter integration with Europe There's a strong nationalistic movement in Scotland, isn't it? Is this movemement pro- or anti-european? Another point, could it lead to a break with England? :confused: Colin Angus Mackay wrote: I am broadly in support of a USE [United States of Europe] being formed. :cool:! Colin Angus Mackay wrote: The draft constitution has to be reduced to no more than 500 words IMO - the current 30,000 (I think) is way too much. I totally agree, and I expect the first draft will be rejected by referedums across the UE. The simple the best.
Ashes to ashes, And clay to clay If the enemy doesn’t get you, Your own folk may
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: I would suggest that it is between "little Englanders"* and europe. I searched yesterday across the web and didn't find any data. Were polls made to evaluate how representative they are in UK? Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Recent polls in show that Scotland is more welcoming of tighter integration with Europe There's a strong nationalistic movement in Scotland, isn't it? Is this movemement pro- or anti-european? Another point, could it lead to a break with England? :confused: Colin Angus Mackay wrote: I am broadly in support of a USE [United States of Europe] being formed. :cool:! Colin Angus Mackay wrote: The draft constitution has to be reduced to no more than 500 words IMO - the current 30,000 (I think) is way too much. I totally agree, and I expect the first draft will be rejected by referedums across the UE. The simple the best.
Ashes to ashes, And clay to clay If the enemy doesn’t get you, Your own folk may
KaЯl wrote: There's a strong nationalistic movement in Scotland, isn't it? It's a bit tide like - at the moment the SNP (Scottish National Party) have been doing worse in Elections - Their new leader is not so effective. KaЯl wrote: Is this movemement pro- or anti-european? The SNP themselves are pro-european. They have campaigned for Scotland to be treated as a separate country within the EU as Scotland consistently disagrees with what the London government negociates. The London Government says that Scotland should be greatful that they have such a strong voice fighting for them. Some anti-Europeans come up with the argument that we'd be ruled from a foreign country, but Scotland has been ruled by a foreign country for 297 years already so that argument doesn't make sense to me. The UK has an island view of Europe and there are two ways that this can go. (1) Become insular and cut off from the mainland, like the UK government would have us or (2) Do everything to stay in the main stream and join in and make sure that geography doesn't mean lagging behind, like Ireland. KaЯl wrote: Another point, could it lead to a break with England? Possibly. The SNP has already pointed out that Scotland could potentially switch to the Euro without the rest of the UK as the Scottish Parliament could mandate it. However it would mean that dealings with centralised government departments in London would become strained. For instance, consider the senario where I get paid in Euros, but I have to pay my taxes to London in Sterling. The history of the Act of Unions between Scotland and England is filled with scandal. Broadly the Scottish parliament in the early 1700s was against the idea, but the English government at the time sunk Scottish Merchant ships trading with the Americas, it bribed about a third of the representatives in the Scottish Parliament and it promised the moon on a string if Scotland were to agree to the Union.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar