Microsoft's New Source Code Control Application
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I spotted this in a SharpReader feed this morning: At the heart of Visual Studio 2005 Team System is a set of integrated software configuration management tools that we call Team Foundation (no codename). Team Foundation, which will ship as a server, server with standalone client, and as an integrated part of Visual Studio 2005, provides policy support, work item management, and enterprise-class source code control services. Hatteras is a spicy new SQL Server-based, fully transactional, client-server source control system that will blow your socks off. If you're lucky enough to be walking the great halls of TechEd this week in San Diego, don't miss the Visual Studio booth. If you want to talk about source control, I recommend you talk to Doug Neumann, Beny Rubenstein, or if you can squeeze your way through the crowd, Brian Harry. It's about time too - although we'll have to wait until Whidbey. Microsoft's New Source Code Control Application[^] Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Until now SourceGear Vault has been closest to what we were looking for way too expensive for us :) Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Team System is about far more than source code control however, and that plugs other gaps in our "armoury". really, what other thing would you say are essential other than source control, as we are just starting out on these things what else would you recommend ? C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg
Bug tracking and feature/project management are the two big ones. Ideally these all needs to be integrated together which is why this product looks promising. At the moment we use separate in-house feature and bug tracking solutions (neither of which are integrated together or with SourceSafe) and we suffer as a result. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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That looks pretty good, but we need something rather more powerful for our team. Until now SourceGear Vault has been closest to what we were looking for - a transactional system with equivalent features to VSS and the ability to import our existing databases. Team System is about far more than source code control however, and that plugs other gaps in our "armoury". Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: rather more powerful :confused: I have not used Subversion personally, but there are two ares of our company already on it and it works fine for them (about 200 people.) How many people do you have on this team, and what do you mean by "more powerful"? "Fish and guests stink in three days." - Benjamin Franlkin
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: rather more powerful :confused: I have not used Subversion personally, but there are two ares of our company already on it and it works fine for them (about 200 people.) How many people do you have on this team, and what do you mean by "more powerful"? "Fish and guests stink in three days." - Benjamin Franlkin
I was thinking from the perpective of the IDE, with respect to large scale branching/management operations rather than day to day check-ins etc. and than the underlying Subversion engine. While I'm sure that Subversion itself would be fine, I doubt we'd find an IDE we could drop in place that would meet our needs without significant interruption to development. I also doubt we'd find a way to quickly (i.e. without writing code to do it) convert our existing SourceSafe databases. Vault was a possibility, but we may as well hang on in until Whidbey now. ;) Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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I spotted this in a SharpReader feed this morning: At the heart of Visual Studio 2005 Team System is a set of integrated software configuration management tools that we call Team Foundation (no codename). Team Foundation, which will ship as a server, server with standalone client, and as an integrated part of Visual Studio 2005, provides policy support, work item management, and enterprise-class source code control services. Hatteras is a spicy new SQL Server-based, fully transactional, client-server source control system that will blow your socks off. If you're lucky enough to be walking the great halls of TechEd this week in San Diego, don't miss the Visual Studio booth. If you want to talk about source control, I recommend you talk to Doug Neumann, Beny Rubenstein, or if you can squeeze your way through the crowd, Brian Harry. It's about time too - although we'll have to wait until Whidbey. Microsoft's New Source Code Control Application[^] Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
Interesting. I was wondering what was to come of VSS.
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I spotted this in a SharpReader feed this morning: At the heart of Visual Studio 2005 Team System is a set of integrated software configuration management tools that we call Team Foundation (no codename). Team Foundation, which will ship as a server, server with standalone client, and as an integrated part of Visual Studio 2005, provides policy support, work item management, and enterprise-class source code control services. Hatteras is a spicy new SQL Server-based, fully transactional, client-server source control system that will blow your socks off. If you're lucky enough to be walking the great halls of TechEd this week in San Diego, don't miss the Visual Studio booth. If you want to talk about source control, I recommend you talk to Doug Neumann, Beny Rubenstein, or if you can squeeze your way through the crowd, Brian Harry. It's about time too - although we'll have to wait until Whidbey. Microsoft's New Source Code Control Application[^] Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Does that mean we have to live with VSS until Whidbey? :-/
we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
sighist || Agile Programming | doxygenIt looks that way, unfortunately. :sigh: I think this is in the same bucket as the "managed C++ syntax" issue. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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I was thinking from the perpective of the IDE, with respect to large scale branching/management operations rather than day to day check-ins etc. and than the underlying Subversion engine. While I'm sure that Subversion itself would be fine, I doubt we'd find an IDE we could drop in place that would meet our needs without significant interruption to development. I also doubt we'd find a way to quickly (i.e. without writing code to do it) convert our existing SourceSafe databases. Vault was a possibility, but we may as well hang on in until Whidbey now. ;) Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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I was actually thinking of a project orientated IDE equivalent to the VSS Explorer...IDE integration is OK for day to day stuff, but it's not idea for everything! So far, the other IDEs I've seen haven't been quite so easy to use or flexible as VSS, despite the other advantages they offer. There's the added consideration that we use the VSS COM interface as part of our automated build process too... Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Does that mean we have to live with VSS until Whidbey? :-/
we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
sighist || Agile Programming | doxygenProbably even after Whidbey. There are rumours that Hatters will be very expensive and only affordable for large development teams. Вагиф Абилов MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski
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Probably even after Whidbey. There are rumours that Hatters will be very expensive and only affordable for large development teams. Вагиф Абилов MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski
Ouch :suss: I hope not. Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In
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Interesting. I was wondering what was to come of VSS.
Me too. I've been keeping a very close eye on the MSDN newsgroups for some time. One up for RSS, I reckon. :cool: Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In