Just an idea, Chris M.
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Issue: Empty articles that contain source files zipped. Article that basically says "here's the code, enjoy". Solution: Provide a way of still submitting articles that may or may not contain code. Provide a way of storing just code samples. This way people who use the articles to learn from (and use the code) can filter out the articles used for just submitting code. And the people who don't want an article can have a place to just download samples. I must not be explaining the idea correctly because people are not understanding. I do not =want to do away with articles but I'm tired of looking at submitted articles that contain just a source code zip. :(( Yes, I program in VB, but only to feed my addiction to a warm place to sleep and food to eat!
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Wackatronic wrote: I must not be explaining the idea correctly because people are not understanding. I do not =want to do away with articles but I'm tired of looking at submitted articles that contain just a source code zip. I now understand what you want. I don't see that it would work, but I now understand. Allowing people just to "dump" code samples is a bad idea. The noise ratio would increase. We already get too many people publishing crap. Having a seperate section would only encourage this and make the job of the CP team who have to maintain the site harder. Besides people who just post code samples would still get voted down by the people who wanted an article on the subject. So in a way we already have a section like this, called Purgatory[^] Michael CP Blog [^]
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Wackatronic wrote: I must not be explaining the idea correctly because people are not understanding. I do not =want to do away with articles but I'm tired of looking at submitted articles that contain just a source code zip. I now understand what you want. I don't see that it would work, but I now understand. Allowing people just to "dump" code samples is a bad idea. The noise ratio would increase. We already get too many people publishing crap. Having a seperate section would only encourage this and make the job of the CP team who have to maintain the site harder. Besides people who just post code samples would still get voted down by the people who wanted an article on the subject. So in a way we already have a section like this, called Purgatory[^] Michael CP Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote: So in a way we already have a section like this, called Purgatory But what if it's good code. Does it really desrve being sent to "Purgatory" ? Yes, I program in VB, but only to feed my addiction to a warm place to sleep and food to eat!
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Michael P Butler wrote: So in a way we already have a section like this, called Purgatory But what if it's good code. Does it really desrve being sent to "Purgatory" ? Yes, I program in VB, but only to feed my addiction to a warm place to sleep and food to eat!
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Wackatronic wrote: But what if it's good code. Does it really desrve being sent to "Purgatory" ? No, it probably doesn't. However most people who vote on 'articles' at CP are more likely to vote something down if there isn't any supporting documentation. Not many people are going to go and download code and then vote for an article. They'll have a look at the page, find no substantial information or documentation and vote the article down. However if the code *is* good, then the developer is more likely to spend time writing a decent article anyway. Michael CP Blog [^]
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Yes but let's not encourage more people. Having written a few articles myself I know that at the outset you just want to get your code up and it takes an effort to write an article around it. It would have been so much easier, and less useful, had I seen the Code Snippet Section and shoved it in there. Offer a people a way out and they will take it :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Ian Darling wrote: "and our loonies usually end up doing things like Monty Python." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Very well put. People in general are lazy and if given the chance will skip the article altogether! And Yes, I count myself in that. I have a few code snippets that could make nice articles *BUT* I havn't posted any as yet because I have not gotten around to writing the do's, don'ts and why's surrounding them. Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
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Michael P Butler wrote: So in a way we already have a section like this, called Purgatory But what if it's good code. Does it really desrve being sent to "Purgatory" ? Yes, I program in VB, but only to feed my addiction to a warm place to sleep and food to eat!
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Code with no explanation is never good. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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I'll put in my 2c here. Wackatronic wrote: I get disappointed when it's just the code without any article. Ironically, I've been told all people want to see is the code. Read some of the feedback in my article on What Is A Good Article[^] Wackatronic wrote: why can't we seperate the submissions into seperate areas of articles and code samples? Mmm. I think figuring out how to separate this out would be really hard. Contributions vary all over the place regarding the ratio between code and article. Sometimes (although rarely, I suppose), all that is necessary is the code. There may be a very elegant solution to a problem. Just like a picture is worth a thousand words, a good code example is worth a thousand words as well. Though, this probably isn't too often, eh? :) Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
For me, code is very important but when I look at an article the first time I look at the questions to see what others have thought about it, then the article itself and finally the code. Of course, it could just be that I'm awkward :rolleyes: Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Michael P Butler wrote: So in a way we already have a section like this, called Purgatory But what if it's good code. Does it really desrve being sent to "Purgatory" ? Yes, I program in VB, but only to feed my addiction to a warm place to sleep and food to eat!
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Coming in late to the debate and two footed at that... Lets say the code is excellent and is just code. How do you find it through the search mechanism? With no description or keywords etc, you would not be able to find what you needed in a mountain of information. Half the fun of publishing articles, I think, is that you have to write them and not the code. It exercises a different area of your brain. Isn't there suppost to be a correlation between vocabulary size and intelligence? Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?
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For me, code is very important but when I look at an article the first time I look at the questions to see what others have thought about it, then the article itself and finally the code. Of course, it could just be that I'm awkward :rolleyes: Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: I'm awkward We both are. I read some of the comments first to see if people smarter than me found the piece worthwhile. If so, I move on to the article itself, because the code is usually confusing taken alone. If the article is well written, explaining in detail what certain parts of the code are doing, I attempt to muddle through the code and figure out what's going on. If it's useful, I file it away as a reference in case I ever need to do something similar. Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
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For me, code is very important but when I look at an article the first time I look at the questions to see what others have thought about it, then the article itself and finally the code. Of course, it could just be that I'm awkward :rolleyes: Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: when I look at an article the first time I look at the questions to see what others have thought about it Me too! Almost makes me wish the responses were at the top of the article page, not the bottom! How'd that be for awkward, hehehe. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
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Coming in late to the debate and two footed at that... Lets say the code is excellent and is just code. How do you find it through the search mechanism? With no description or keywords etc, you would not be able to find what you needed in a mountain of information. Half the fun of publishing articles, I think, is that you have to write them and not the code. It exercises a different area of your brain. Isn't there suppost to be a correlation between vocabulary size and intelligence? Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: I am sad I am flying Who is your favorite Strong?
Roger Allen wrote: Isn't there suppost to be a correlation between vocabulary size and intelligence? Yep... ...:doh: Iain.
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Trollslayer wrote: when I look at an article the first time I look at the questions to see what others have thought about it Me too! Almost makes me wish the responses were at the top of the article page, not the bottom! How'd that be for awkward, hehehe. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
Marc Clifton wrote: Almost makes me wish the responses were at the top of the article page, not the bottom! Wouldn't that be what the rating was design for :) Of course it helps if you are not the first one readying it... Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com