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  • M mirano

    ...I just saw the ad on your page, maybe it would also be good to allow us to leave some comments under the page advertising Crystal Reports 10. I could say I lot about the monster that you can not use in small projects, complicated binding (especially under the .Net), rampaging licensing, amateur exporting etc. While it is good for big projects that center around the print previewing and reporting, almost all other projects that need accasional reporting would find it an overkill to use CR. A classical example of a nice little reporting tool becoming a monster...and an ugly one. TO MICROSOFT -> please get some programmers to re-code and make available the Access reports for Visual Studio 6, Visual Studio .Net etc.

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    We dumped it for SQL Server 2000 Reporting Services[^]
    Promise only what you can do. And then deliver more than what you promised.
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    • M mirano

      ...I just saw the ad on your page, maybe it would also be good to allow us to leave some comments under the page advertising Crystal Reports 10. I could say I lot about the monster that you can not use in small projects, complicated binding (especially under the .Net), rampaging licensing, amateur exporting etc. While it is good for big projects that center around the print previewing and reporting, almost all other projects that need accasional reporting would find it an overkill to use CR. A classical example of a nice little reporting tool becoming a monster...and an ugly one. TO MICROSOFT -> please get some programmers to re-code and make available the Access reports for Visual Studio 6, Visual Studio .Net etc.

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      KevinMac
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      I have moved two clients to ActiveReports because of the licensing issues ($$$$$) and I have one more client looking at the MS Sql server reporting. Crystal use to be the way to go but anymore they are to expensive for what you get.

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      • K Kant

        We dumped it for SQL Server 2000 Reporting Services[^]
        Promise only what you can do. And then deliver more than what you promised.
        This signature was created by "Code Project Quoter".

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        Michael P Butler
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        Kant wrote: We dumped it for SQL Server 2000 Reporting Services[^] I've been wanting to test that, but couldn't get the thing to install on my W2k server. Is it as good as people say? Next time I rebuild my server, I'll try again. Michael CP Blog [^]

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        • M mirano

          ...I just saw the ad on your page, maybe it would also be good to allow us to leave some comments under the page advertising Crystal Reports 10. I could say I lot about the monster that you can not use in small projects, complicated binding (especially under the .Net), rampaging licensing, amateur exporting etc. While it is good for big projects that center around the print previewing and reporting, almost all other projects that need accasional reporting would find it an overkill to use CR. A classical example of a nice little reporting tool becoming a monster...and an ugly one. TO MICROSOFT -> please get some programmers to re-code and make available the Access reports for Visual Studio 6, Visual Studio .Net etc.

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          mirano
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          I am glad to see that it is not only me being frustrated with CR. Thanks. .

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          • M mirano

            ...I just saw the ad on your page, maybe it would also be good to allow us to leave some comments under the page advertising Crystal Reports 10. I could say I lot about the monster that you can not use in small projects, complicated binding (especially under the .Net), rampaging licensing, amateur exporting etc. While it is good for big projects that center around the print previewing and reporting, almost all other projects that need accasional reporting would find it an overkill to use CR. A classical example of a nice little reporting tool becoming a monster...and an ugly one. TO MICROSOFT -> please get some programmers to re-code and make available the Access reports for Visual Studio 6, Visual Studio .Net etc.

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            Lost User
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            Yeah, we tried using it but found the documentation both on paper and on their website rubbish. Oh and my mate who worked for them just got made redundant after the takeover so i'm avoiding the product at all costs.

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              While I've never used Ver. 10, I've used Crystal Reports since 7.0 through 8.5 and for the most part it's a nice product. And, I don't think it's overkill as they have always made it (fairly) easy to use. However it does have its issues that I think hinder it.

              1. It has always been buggy. It has quirks that will drive you nuts until you figure what's going on. And, sometimes it can corrupt .rpt files just by editing the things in the designer.

              2. Its documentation sucks - they really need to improve in that area. While, it's straightforward to use CR, finding out how to do it in the first place (or learning something new) is a nightmare.

              3. I don't mind the licensing issues (implementation that is), but it is way overpriced for what it does.

              Jeremy Falcon

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              Maximilian Hanel
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              I can't agree more! It has always been buggy That's by far the worst thing of CR. If they only could make it running the way it should. btw don't talk about deployment of CR...

              "All languages allow you to write crap code, VB just makes it easier (IMO)." Michael P Butler

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                While I've never used Ver. 10, I've used Crystal Reports since 7.0 through 8.5 and for the most part it's a nice product. And, I don't think it's overkill as they have always made it (fairly) easy to use. However it does have its issues that I think hinder it.

                1. It has always been buggy. It has quirks that will drive you nuts until you figure what's going on. And, sometimes it can corrupt .rpt files just by editing the things in the designer.

                2. Its documentation sucks - they really need to improve in that area. While, it's straightforward to use CR, finding out how to do it in the first place (or learning something new) is a nightmare.

                3. I don't mind the licensing issues (implementation that is), but it is way overpriced for what it does.

                Jeremy Falcon

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                netclectic
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                Haven't played with 10 but if you're happy with 8.5 then whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to 9!!!

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                • N netclectic

                  Haven't played with 10 but if you're happy with 8.5 then whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to 9!!!

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                  jonathan15
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                  We use 8.0 and are far from happy with it. The Viewer control takes loads of memory but wont give it back :mad: We are looking at upgrading (in the vain hope that the next version or the next version after that may be better). Unfortunatly we are not using .net yet and there are few other alternatives. Jon

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                  • M mirano

                    ...I just saw the ad on your page, maybe it would also be good to allow us to leave some comments under the page advertising Crystal Reports 10. I could say I lot about the monster that you can not use in small projects, complicated binding (especially under the .Net), rampaging licensing, amateur exporting etc. While it is good for big projects that center around the print previewing and reporting, almost all other projects that need accasional reporting would find it an overkill to use CR. A classical example of a nice little reporting tool becoming a monster...and an ugly one. TO MICROSOFT -> please get some programmers to re-code and make available the Access reports for Visual Studio 6, Visual Studio .Net etc.

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                    Nicholas Butler
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                    <Shameless plug> If you don't like CR, you can buy my product, EasiReports[^], and help support a fellow CPian :-D It's small, cheap and comes with a year's support and upgrades. The next version will include the full source code, and support for any datasource. </Shameless plug> ---------------------------- Be excellent to each other :)

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                    • M Maximilian Hanel

                      I can't agree more! It has always been buggy That's by far the worst thing of CR. If they only could make it running the way it should. btw don't talk about deployment of CR...

                      "All languages allow you to write crap code, VB just makes it easier (IMO)." Michael P Butler

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      Maximilian Hänel wrote: btw don't talk about deployment of CR... LOL! I know what you mean, and those generic error messages don't help when you're trying to figure the problem out. Jeremy Falcon

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