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"There are 10 kinds of people when it comes to binary. Those who understand it, and those who don't." i guess most of you know this quote and i hope most of you understand it but i've got a question why isn't it "There is 1 kind of people ... "? 0 is in the geek world a value and has meaning and does not mean nothing, like in the real world (:-D)
your question suggests you belong to "those who don't". I think you are mixed up about how a binary digit can have two values, 0 and 1, but in this joke 10 is not being used as a list of these two digits, it is the binary representation of the number 2.
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your question suggests you belong to "those who don't". I think you are mixed up about how a binary digit can have two values, 0 and 1, but in this joke 10 is not being used as a list of these two digits, it is the binary representation of the number 2.
Ben Bryant wrote: your question suggests you belong to "those who don't". I think you are mixed up about how a binary digit can have two values, 0 and 1, but in this joke 10 is not being used as a list of these two digits, it is the binary representation of the number 2. i know that 10 represents 2, since my dad made jokes about when i was about 8 (whats 1+1? - 2? - no, 10, hehe) but i just thought this could be possible ...
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"There are 10 kinds of people when it comes to binary. Those who understand it, and those who don't." i guess most of you know this quote and i hope most of you understand it but i've got a question why isn't it "There is 1 kind of people ... "? 0 is in the geek world a value and has meaning and does not mean nothing, like in the real world (:-D)
Peter Reiter wrote: why isn't it "There is 1 kind of people ... "? Because most people don't redefine the set of natural numbers ;) -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter
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Ben Bryant wrote: your question suggests you belong to "those who don't". I think you are mixed up about how a binary digit can have two values, 0 and 1, but in this joke 10 is not being used as a list of these two digits, it is the binary representation of the number 2. i know that 10 represents 2, since my dad made jokes about when i was about 8 (whats 1+1? - 2? - no, 10, hehe) but i just thought this could be possible ...
So you've had it ingrained ever since your dad teased you! I just rediscovered this joke from a posting on the lounge recently and laughed out loud. Well, okay, still there is a disconnect here. You seem to be suggesting that 0 has a meaning for people who understand binary as opposed to people who don't. For computer geeks, zero is "off" and one is "on". Both are states of the same switch, so in a sense there are two "things" going on here. Right? But you still can't say "There is 1 type of person who understands binary..." because 1, even in binary, represents a numerical concept of 1 thing, it does not in any way represent the duality of a bit since it is only one of the two values that a bit can hold. Am I missing your point?
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So you've had it ingrained ever since your dad teased you! I just rediscovered this joke from a posting on the lounge recently and laughed out loud. Well, okay, still there is a disconnect here. You seem to be suggesting that 0 has a meaning for people who understand binary as opposed to people who don't. For computer geeks, zero is "off" and one is "on". Both are states of the same switch, so in a sense there are two "things" going on here. Right? But you still can't say "There is 1 type of person who understands binary..." because 1, even in binary, represents a numerical concept of 1 thing, it does not in any way represent the duality of a bit since it is only one of the two values that a bit can hold. Am I missing your point?
Ben Bryant wrote: So you've had it ingrained ever since your dad teased you! I just rediscovered this joke from a posting on the lounge recently and laughed out loud. Well, okay, still there is a disconnect here. You seem to be suggesting that 0 has a meaning for people who understand binary as opposed to people who don't. For computer geeks, zero is "off" and one is "on". Both are states of the same switch, so in a sense there are two "things" going on here. Right? But you still can't say "There is 1 type of person who understands binary..." because 1, even in binary, represents a numerical concept of 1 thing, it does not in any way represent the duality of a bit since it is only one of the two values that a bit can hold. Am I missing your point? That was exactly what i thought, your posting made it also more clearly why 10 is written, thanks
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"There are 10 kinds of people when it comes to binary. Those who understand it, and those who don't." i guess most of you know this quote and i hope most of you understand it but i've got a question why isn't it "There is 1 kind of people ... "? 0 is in the geek world a value and has meaning and does not mean nothing, like in the real world (:-D)
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"There are 10 kinds of people when it comes to binary. Those who understand it, and those who don't." i guess most of you know this quote and i hope most of you understand it but i've got a question why isn't it "There is 1 kind of people ... "? 0 is in the geek world a value and has meaning and does not mean nothing, like in the real world (:-D)
Ok this thread is just crazy. First you have the quote wrong. Go find it and read it carefully it's just fine the way it is. Second, please don't write requirements documents for any project i might work on.
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Peter Reiter wrote: why isn't it "There is 1 kind of people ... "? Because most people don't redefine the set of natural numbers ;) -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter
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"There are 10 kinds of people when it comes to binary. Those who understand it, and those who don't." i guess most of you know this quote and i hope most of you understand it but i've got a question why isn't it "There is 1 kind of people ... "? 0 is in the geek world a value and has meaning and does not mean nothing, like in the real world (:-D)
Why does everybody forget about the people who understand Gray Codes?
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"There are 10 kinds of people when it comes to binary. Those who understand it, and those who don't." i guess most of you know this quote and i hope most of you understand it but i've got a question why isn't it "There is 1 kind of people ... "? 0 is in the geek world a value and has meaning and does not mean nothing, like in the real world (:-D)
I guess you are about .1 right.
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Hmm. So I could make a composite quote by combining two well-known ones: There are 11 kinds of people: those who can count in binary, and those who can't. "Fish and guests stink in three days." - Benjamin Franlkin
Navin wrote: There are 11 kinds of people: those who can count in binary, and those who can't. It's a good start, but i think the joke is missing something still. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Why does everybody forget about the people who understand Gray Codes?
What codes? :) -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter
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I guess you are about .1 right.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
.1" ? :rolleyes: -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter
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What codes? :) -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter
It's a binary encoding that progresses by only changing one bit at a time, hence:
000 001 011 **010** 110 111 101 100 etcSo 010 in Gray code is equivalent to three, rather than two. See? :-D
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.1" ? :rolleyes: -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter
It's a binary fraction. .1 = 1/2 .11 = 3/4 .01 = 1/4 etc. Almost all US construction workers use binary without even realizing it. That's why it's better then the metric system. ;P
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon