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  • R Roger Wright

    There are 14 new posts in the past couple of hours. What the heck are the other 2489 users doing that sucks up so much bandwidth? This is not a complaint, but a matter of curiosity. We were infested with bots a while back, downloading the entire site or parts of it, and that forced Chris to limit downloads to subscribed members. Have those bots returned with valid accounts? Do we need to put a cap on how many downloads an individual user is allowed per day? Would doing so really inconvenience any legitimate users of the site? Would it help, without incurring the cost of more servers and bandwidth? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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    Daniel Turini
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    Reading those 14 posts? Reading articles? Reading posts on articles? Downloading code? Posting new articles? Searching? Reading past messages? Creating accounts? Changing settings? Pressing refresh because the site is too slow? No, I'm not complaining but it's a well-known fact that users click links a lot and refresh a lot when a site is slow. Yes, even I am blogging now!

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      That's exactly what I was thinking. What are all these other guys doing ? Perhaps downloading the entire site like Chris was talking about. If we find them doing that we should kill them. They are stopping us from lounging :) "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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      Ramanan Sivan wrote: If we find them doing that we should kill them I infer you meant terminating their account, not their life! :eek::eek: Ramanan Sivan wrote: They are stopping us from lounging Lounging.:laugh::laugh: I've just got this image of everyone slumping away in front of their pc, completely limp except for the movement of their mouse hand. Maybe we should call all those extra loafers inert loungers.


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      • R Roger Wright

        There are 14 new posts in the past couple of hours. What the heck are the other 2489 users doing that sucks up so much bandwidth? This is not a complaint, but a matter of curiosity. We were infested with bots a while back, downloading the entire site or parts of it, and that forced Chris to limit downloads to subscribed members. Have those bots returned with valid accounts? Do we need to put a cap on how many downloads an individual user is allowed per day? Would doing so really inconvenience any legitimate users of the site? Would it help, without incurring the cost of more servers and bandwidth? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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        Diane Capewell
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        /sRoger Wright wrote: What the heck are the other 2489 users doing ... ? Uhm, hanging out in the Lounge? :) - Diane C "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity." (Dorothy Parker (attributed))

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        • R Roger Wright

          There are 14 new posts in the past couple of hours. What the heck are the other 2489 users doing that sucks up so much bandwidth? This is not a complaint, but a matter of curiosity. We were infested with bots a while back, downloading the entire site or parts of it, and that forced Chris to limit downloads to subscribed members. Have those bots returned with valid accounts? Do we need to put a cap on how many downloads an individual user is allowed per day? Would doing so really inconvenience any legitimate users of the site? Would it help, without incurring the cost of more servers and bandwidth? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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          Andy Brummer
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          It looks like the network is slow again as well, based on how long the pages are taking to fully render in mozilla. X|


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            Ramanan Sivan wrote: If we find them doing that we should kill them I infer you meant terminating their account, not their life! :eek::eek: Ramanan Sivan wrote: They are stopping us from lounging Lounging.:laugh::laugh: I've just got this image of everyone slumping away in front of their pc, completely limp except for the movement of their mouse hand. Maybe we should call all those extra loafers inert loungers.


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            wrykyn
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            RChin wrote: I've just got this image of everyone slumping away in front of their pc, completely limp except for the movement of their mouse hand. Hey! Where are you. How can you see me ? I'm calling the police. This is stalking...:suss: "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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            • R RChin

              Ramanan Sivan wrote: If we find them doing that we should kill them I infer you meant terminating their account, not their life! :eek::eek: Ramanan Sivan wrote: They are stopping us from lounging Lounging.:laugh::laugh: I've just got this image of everyone slumping away in front of their pc, completely limp except for the movement of their mouse hand. Maybe we should call all those extra loafers inert loungers.


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              Jerry Hammond
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              RChin wrote: Lounging. I've just got this image of everyone slumping away in front of their pc, completely limp except for the movement of their mouse hand. Maybe we should call all those extra loafers inert loungers. That tears it. I'm disconnecting the web cam right now!

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              • R Roger Wright

                There are 14 new posts in the past couple of hours. What the heck are the other 2489 users doing that sucks up so much bandwidth? This is not a complaint, but a matter of curiosity. We were infested with bots a while back, downloading the entire site or parts of it, and that forced Chris to limit downloads to subscribed members. Have those bots returned with valid accounts? Do we need to put a cap on how many downloads an individual user is allowed per day? Would doing so really inconvenience any legitimate users of the site? Would it help, without incurring the cost of more servers and bandwidth? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                Troy Marchand
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                Well, most people read compared to the number that post. In a way this is probably a good thing since there are 1,000,000+ unique users per month (not sessions, not members, but unique users!). Imagine trying to stay current reading the forums with that many posts! So, watch what you say, there are a million people watching ;) Troy

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                • R RChin

                  Ramanan Sivan wrote: If we find them doing that we should kill them I infer you meant terminating their account, not their life! :eek::eek: Ramanan Sivan wrote: They are stopping us from lounging Lounging.:laugh::laugh: I've just got this image of everyone slumping away in front of their pc, completely limp except for the movement of their mouse hand. Maybe we should call all those extra loafers inert loungers.


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                  >I infer you meant terminating their account, not their life! Isn't that effectively the same thing? No CP account, no life? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Ian Darling wrote: "and our loonies usually end up doing things like Monty Python." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    There are 14 new posts in the past couple of hours. What the heck are the other 2489 users doing that sucks up so much bandwidth? This is not a complaint, but a matter of curiosity. We were infested with bots a while back, downloading the entire site or parts of it, and that forced Chris to limit downloads to subscribed members. Have those bots returned with valid accounts? Do we need to put a cap on how many downloads an individual user is allowed per day? Would doing so really inconvenience any legitimate users of the site? Would it help, without incurring the cost of more servers and bandwidth? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Great scott man! Are you mad!? Encouraging the natives to post! How shall us addicts ever get our points across in a swell of verbage? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Ian Darling wrote: "and our loonies usually end up doing things like Monty Python." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      There are 14 new posts in the past couple of hours. What the heck are the other 2489 users doing that sucks up so much bandwidth? This is not a complaint, but a matter of curiosity. We were infested with bots a while back, downloading the entire site or parts of it, and that forced Chris to limit downloads to subscribed members. Have those bots returned with valid accounts? Do we need to put a cap on how many downloads an individual user is allowed per day? Would doing so really inconvenience any legitimate users of the site? Would it help, without incurring the cost of more servers and bandwidth? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                      Heath Stewart
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                      Good idea, so long as the forums aren't capped (I'd go nuts if I could post replies in the C# forum...and I'm sure there's those that would go nuts if they couldn't "lounge"!). Of course, a limit on stupid questions in any forum would be a handy - but difficult - feature. :)

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                      • W wrykyn

                        That's exactly what I was thinking. What are all these other guys doing ? Perhaps downloading the entire site like Chris was talking about. If we find them doing that we should kill them. They are stopping us from lounging :) "I believe I referred to her personality as a potential science exhibit." - Elaine, about Ellen, in "The Dog"

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                        Giles
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                        Ramanan Sivan wrote: They are stopping us from lounging Cyber loafing seems to be what busineses call it these days.


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                        • R Roger Wright

                          There are 14 new posts in the past couple of hours. What the heck are the other 2489 users doing that sucks up so much bandwidth? This is not a complaint, but a matter of curiosity. We were infested with bots a while back, downloading the entire site or parts of it, and that forced Chris to limit downloads to subscribed members. Have those bots returned with valid accounts? Do we need to put a cap on how many downloads an individual user is allowed per day? Would doing so really inconvenience any legitimate users of the site? Would it help, without incurring the cost of more servers and bandwidth? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                          Can someone explain to me how the 2489 users etc calculated ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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                            Good idea, so long as the forums aren't capped (I'd go nuts if I could post replies in the C# forum...and I'm sure there's those that would go nuts if they couldn't "lounge"!). Of course, a limit on stupid questions in any forum would be a handy - but difficult - feature. :)

                            Microsoft MVP, Visual C# My Articles

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                            Roger Wright
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                            Text posts don't consume much bandwidth in either direction. I don't see any reason to limit them at all. But if people are using automated tools to suck the site dry at regular intervals, that imposes a huge load. I don't think it would be all that hard to write a program or script to add an intitial logon to a bot program, and just wonder if that's what has been going on. If it is, then a cap of downloading, say, 6 articles' project files per day probably would not inconvenience anyone who is seriously using this site. But it would block huge transfers that could have a serious impact in performance for the rest of us. "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                              Can someone explain to me how the 2489 users etc calculated ? Regardz Colin J Davies

                              *** WARNING *
                              This could be addictive
                              **The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "

                              It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox

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                              Well, one way would be: Sub Session_OnStart Application.Lock Application("CurrentUsers") = Application("CurrentUsers") + 1 Application.UnLock End Sub Sub Session_OnEnd Application.Lock Application("CurrentUsers") = Application("CurrentUsers") - 1 Application.UnLock End Sub "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                              • R Roger Wright

                                Well, one way would be: Sub Session_OnStart Application.Lock Application("CurrentUsers") = Application("CurrentUsers") + 1 Application.UnLock End Sub Sub Session_OnEnd Application.Lock Application("CurrentUsers") = Application("CurrentUsers") - 1 Application.UnLock End Sub "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                                ColinDavies
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                                HUh, :wtf: does that mean ? While my PC is on (24/7) I have at least one CP page open. Does that still make me a User even when seated on the dunny? Regardz Colin J Davies

                                *** WARNING *
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                                **The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "

                                It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox

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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  Well, one way would be: Sub Session_OnStart Application.Lock Application("CurrentUsers") = Application("CurrentUsers") + 1 Application.UnLock End Sub Sub Session_OnEnd Application.Lock Application("CurrentUsers") = Application("CurrentUsers") - 1 Application.UnLock End Sub "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                                  Andy Brummer
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                                  Close, but it doesn't work for a cluster. That counts users per system which would be roughly 1/6th of the total in this case.


                                  I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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                                  • R Roger Wright

                                    There are 14 new posts in the past couple of hours. What the heck are the other 2489 users doing that sucks up so much bandwidth? This is not a complaint, but a matter of curiosity. We were infested with bots a while back, downloading the entire site or parts of it, and that forced Chris to limit downloads to subscribed members. Have those bots returned with valid accounts? Do we need to put a cap on how many downloads an individual user is allowed per day? Would doing so really inconvenience any legitimate users of the site? Would it help, without incurring the cost of more servers and bandwidth? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                                    Andy Brummer
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                                    Well, I expect they are all reading my articles :rolleyes: Well, most of the pages on the site are bigger then the downloads. Example so, the problem is more likely the crawl on the asp pages themselves, and the contention on the database and web servers.


                                    I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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                                    • R Roger Wright

                                      There are 14 new posts in the past couple of hours. What the heck are the other 2489 users doing that sucks up so much bandwidth? This is not a complaint, but a matter of curiosity. We were infested with bots a while back, downloading the entire site or parts of it, and that forced Chris to limit downloads to subscribed members. Have those bots returned with valid accounts? Do we need to put a cap on how many downloads an individual user is allowed per day? Would doing so really inconvenience any legitimate users of the site? Would it help, without incurring the cost of more servers and bandwidth? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                                      Matt Newman
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                                      Everybody is sitting at there computers with an orange glow cast upon their faces thinking, damnit why doesn't anyone post something. Matt Newman
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                                        HUh, :wtf: does that mean ? While my PC is on (24/7) I have at least one CP page open. Does that still make me a User even when seated on the dunny? Regardz Colin J Davies

                                        *** WARNING *
                                        This could be addictive
                                        **The minion's version of "Catch :bob: "

                                        It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox

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                                        Roger Wright
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                                        If you're sitting on the dunny more than 20 minutes, your session will end, and the counter will decrement. If you click on a link, a new session will be started, and the counter will be incremented. That's assuming, of course, that it works at all. Session variables, in my experience, often don't and I expect no better from Application variables. "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                                        • A Andy Brummer

                                          Close, but it doesn't work for a cluster. That counts users per system which would be roughly 1/6th of the total in this case.


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                                          Roger Wright
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                                          True, but I was simplifying it for illustrative purposes. I've never worked with a cluster, and would have no idea how to attack the problem in such a case. That's a whole new can of worms. "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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