RealDevs In Disarray
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That is rough. Nobody wanted this. Just goes to show that community sites are not so simple to run. They aren't just an hour a day spent throwing together some HTML and telling friends. I am sure Anders, being the enterprising chap he is, will bounce back. Marc and Tom will manage too. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Ian Darling wrote: "and our loonies usually end up doing things like Monty Python." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Just goes to show that community sites are not so simple to run. They aren't just an hour a day spent throwing together some HTML and telling friends. Hehe, yeah, but there was a bit more to it than just that, but you are correct, it takes a lot of work to run such a site. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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That is rough. Nobody wanted this. Just goes to show that community sites are not so simple to run. They aren't just an hour a day spent throwing together some HTML and telling friends. I am sure Anders, being the enterprising chap he is, will bounce back. Marc and Tom will manage too. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Ian Darling wrote: "and our loonies usually end up doing things like Monty Python." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: I am sure Anders, being the enterprising chap he is, will bounce back. Thanks Paul :) And yes, I already have some ideas :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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I just read that Anders Molin has left RealDevs[^]. The site has only been going for a few weeks and already the management team are in disarray! Visit Riverside Internet[^] Visit Mike Puddephat Online[^]
Do you have any idea how many people came and went through CodeGuru while it was building up? My point is that one person leaving a company/venture doesn't exactly equal "disarray" - especially this early in the game when RealDevs doesn't even have an identity yet. Simply put, Anders had different ideas about running the site and we agreed to part ways amicably. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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I just read that Anders Molin has left RealDevs[^]. The site has only been going for a few weeks and already the management team are in disarray! Visit Riverside Internet[^] Visit Mike Puddephat Online[^]
Man, I take a couple of weeks off to move and miss all the excitement... So, Anders and Marc started a new site, Tom joined, Anders left, and is planning something new. What else did I miss? :-) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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Do you have any idea how many people came and went through CodeGuru while it was building up? My point is that one person leaving a company/venture doesn't exactly equal "disarray" - especially this early in the game when RealDevs doesn't even have an identity yet. Simply put, Anders had different ideas about running the site and we agreed to part ways amicably. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
I also noticed in catching up on stuff that you closed on your new house. Congrats, man! You moved in yet? I'm still unpacking... Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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I also noticed in catching up on stuff that you closed on your new house. Congrats, man! You moved in yet? I'm still unpacking... Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
Thanks! We're still moving. By the way, I noticed you called the other day, but didn't leave a msg. Our cell phones don't work in the sticks so you'll need to email me until we switch carriers. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Man, I take a couple of weeks off to move and miss all the excitement... So, Anders and Marc started a new site, Tom joined, Anders left, and is planning something new. What else did I miss? :-) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
Christopher Duncan wrote: What else did I miss? John Simmons took over Code Project, and Chris packed his ipaqs and left for Australia. ;)
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Man, I take a couple of weeks off to move and miss all the excitement... So, Anders and Marc started a new site, Tom joined, Anders left, and is planning something new. What else did I miss? :-) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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Do you have any idea how many people came and went through CodeGuru while it was building up? My point is that one person leaving a company/venture doesn't exactly equal "disarray" - especially this early in the game when RealDevs doesn't even have an identity yet. Simply put, Anders had different ideas about running the site and we agreed to part ways amicably. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
***I don't want to start even the smallest fire here but I am really curious. There is plenty to learn from this, for instance. If you don't want to talk about it then just say so and we fester in silence rather.*** I believe in transparency*. Have your dirty laundry airing out on the washing line rather than festering in your mistresses panty drawer. People are much more interested in what is behind the closed door than what is sitting in the open door. And if they don't find out, they make up the wildest, craziest stories. Something happened here. This isn't just a code monkey who left the management team, it was one of the two founders. RealDevs.net was Marc and Anders from my perspective. Now sure there have been many founder-pairs that have split early on each to go his own way. But then there is your part, coming in and joining the original two. Then not long after, Anders leaves. That is odd. I am just curious as I said. It is interesting to learn about how entities such as this begin, evolve, grow, change, break apart, re-merge etc. And being open about it puts a stop to rumour mongering :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Ian Darling wrote: "and our loonies usually end up doing things like Monty Python." Crikey! ain't life grand?
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Man, I take a couple of weeks off to move and miss all the excitement... So, Anders and Marc started a new site, Tom joined, Anders left, and is planning something new. What else did I miss? :-) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
Christopher Duncan wrote: What else did I miss? An infinite loop on CP, which, when removed, speeeded the site up to usable speeds ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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***I don't want to start even the smallest fire here but I am really curious. There is plenty to learn from this, for instance. If you don't want to talk about it then just say so and we fester in silence rather.*** I believe in transparency*. Have your dirty laundry airing out on the washing line rather than festering in your mistresses panty drawer. People are much more interested in what is behind the closed door than what is sitting in the open door. And if they don't find out, they make up the wildest, craziest stories. Something happened here. This isn't just a code monkey who left the management team, it was one of the two founders. RealDevs.net was Marc and Anders from my perspective. Now sure there have been many founder-pairs that have split early on each to go his own way. But then there is your part, coming in and joining the original two. Then not long after, Anders leaves. That is odd. I am just curious as I said. It is interesting to learn about how entities such as this begin, evolve, grow, change, break apart, re-merge etc. And being open about it puts a stop to rumour mongering :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Ian Darling wrote: "and our loonies usually end up doing things like Monty Python." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Sorry to disappoint you, but it's really not that intriguing a story. We all had differing views on the future of the site and how to manage it so we agreed to part ways amicably. That's pretty much all there is to it. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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And I missed it? Damn! I knew I shouldn't have cancelled my subscription to the local paper... ;-) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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Thanks! We're still moving. By the way, I noticed you called the other day, but didn't leave a msg. Our cell phones don't work in the sticks so you'll need to email me until we switch carriers. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Tom Archer wrote: Our cell phones don't work in the sticks Well, I live out in the sticks now, too (I drive past 2 cow pastures and one horse farm after getting off the freeway), but at least my cell phone works! :-D Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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Tom Archer wrote: Our cell phones don't work in the sticks Well, I live out in the sticks now, too (I drive past 2 cow pastures and one horse farm after getting off the freeway), but at least my cell phone works! :-D Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
Actually, you're much further out and I doubt that the MetroPCS service works out there either. Oh well. Just the excuse I need to get a phone/pda ;) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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***I don't want to start even the smallest fire here but I am really curious. There is plenty to learn from this, for instance. If you don't want to talk about it then just say so and we fester in silence rather.*** I believe in transparency*. Have your dirty laundry airing out on the washing line rather than festering in your mistresses panty drawer. People are much more interested in what is behind the closed door than what is sitting in the open door. And if they don't find out, they make up the wildest, craziest stories. Something happened here. This isn't just a code monkey who left the management team, it was one of the two founders. RealDevs.net was Marc and Anders from my perspective. Now sure there have been many founder-pairs that have split early on each to go his own way. But then there is your part, coming in and joining the original two. Then not long after, Anders leaves. That is odd. I am just curious as I said. It is interesting to learn about how entities such as this begin, evolve, grow, change, break apart, re-merge etc. And being open about it puts a stop to rumour mongering :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Ian Darling wrote: "and our loonies usually end up doing things like Monty Python." Crikey! ain't life grand?
I always knew that somewhere deep inside that likable, Save the Whales kinda guy there lurked the heart of a troublemaker... ;-) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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Actually, you're much further out and I doubt that the MetroPCS service works out there either. Oh well. Just the excuse I need to get a phone/pda ;) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Tom Archer wrote: Oh well. Just the excuse I need to get a phone/pda And this is how we justify... :-D Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
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I always knew that somewhere deep inside that likable, Save the Whales kinda guy there lurked the heart of a troublemaker... ;-) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World
:-O I know, I was cringing the whole time I wrote that post. Re-worded it a few times, chopped out bits I thought might cause more trouble than AMT deserved. I researched Disclaimers.com* for something that would help but realised nothing short of being a marketing-weasel would have taken the edge off the post and I am not about to start being that. But I was really curious. So I asked away. Tom handled it well though, didn't take offense or make a mountain of a curious mole-hill (me). :) Good to have you back Duncan! I'm itching to try out more reptitive, lame, sad chihuaha and vette jokes. * Don't bother checking, just part of the joke. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Ian Darling wrote: "and our loonies usually end up doing things like Monty Python." Crikey! ain't life grand?
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Do you have any idea how many people came and went through CodeGuru while it was building up? My point is that one person leaving a company/venture doesn't exactly equal "disarray" - especially this early in the game when RealDevs doesn't even have an identity yet. Simply put, Anders had different ideas about running the site and we agreed to part ways amicably. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
CodeGuru ... yeah, and look at the great site it is today!! Oh, wait... :doh: Your example aside :), I agree with you, though. I think RealDevs still has potential, so I guess we'll see where it goes. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
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Do you have any idea how many people came and went through CodeGuru while it was building up? My point is that one person leaving a company/venture doesn't exactly equal "disarray" - especially this early in the game when RealDevs doesn't even have an identity yet. Simply put, Anders had different ideas about running the site and we agreed to part ways amicably. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Wow, a n o t h e r developer site! Cool! Enjoyed going through the forums. Got quite a few chuckles. I was kind of unsure of the focus of the rest of the site though... Best, Jerry
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little past them into the impossible.--Arthur C. Clark
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***I don't want to start even the smallest fire here but I am really curious. There is plenty to learn from this, for instance. If you don't want to talk about it then just say so and we fester in silence rather.*** I believe in transparency*. Have your dirty laundry airing out on the washing line rather than festering in your mistresses panty drawer. People are much more interested in what is behind the closed door than what is sitting in the open door. And if they don't find out, they make up the wildest, craziest stories. Something happened here. This isn't just a code monkey who left the management team, it was one of the two founders. RealDevs.net was Marc and Anders from my perspective. Now sure there have been many founder-pairs that have split early on each to go his own way. But then there is your part, coming in and joining the original two. Then not long after, Anders leaves. That is odd. I am just curious as I said. It is interesting to learn about how entities such as this begin, evolve, grow, change, break apart, re-merge etc. And being open about it puts a stop to rumour mongering :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Ian Darling wrote: "and our loonies usually end up doing things like Monty Python." Crikey! ain't life grand?
Well, we were 3 owners after Tom joined. The site started to take a turn that I did not like and being the only one of 3 who did not like it I had the option to shut up and do what the other said, or do something else. Both Tom and me is very independant people and, as someone told me this morning, I have my own way of doing things. Some people did not like my ways, so that's it. I started the whole thing, and I could not just sit and watch it all go in a direction I did not like. Well, thats the way business is. All stuff have been moved away from my servers and is now running on Marc's, so I'm officially out. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
My Photos[^]