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  • R Rob Manderson

    I applied SP2 to my work machine today and it hosed the machine. Once the update was done the machine would not boot in any configuration (safe mode failed, last known good failed). In all cases it hung on agp.sys. I ended up reinstalling XP original over the the top, reapplying SP1a and about a million updates, then reinstalling VS6 and VS.NET etc... it took about 7 hours in total. So now the question is - do I dare try it on this machine at home? That damn 8 ball isn't saying :-) On the other hand - there's the kids machine - they don't use it so I just might take the plunge to upgrade from Win2k to XP and thence to SP2... Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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    Brian Delahunty
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    Rob Manderson wrote: do I dare try it on this machine at home? I was reluctant to put it on my laptop as it's where I do most of my personal work... but it went perfect for me on two machines, no problems, and I hadn't heard any horros stories... so I though I'd go for it. I really don't have time to be reinstalling everything. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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    • B Brian Delahunty

      Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mad: :mad: Installed SP2 on my work machine yesterday. Perfect. No issues. Very impressed. Installed SP2 on an older machine at home last night. Perfect. No issues. Very Impressed. I though I'd just take the dive and install it on my laptop (where I do most of my non-work work.. if you know what I mean).... :eek: The damned laptop won't load windows now. :mad: START: Starts, after the BIOS post etc, I see the lovely loading Windows XP screen with the shiny blue progress bar bouncing from side to side to show me that something is actually happening... then the screen goes black, just like it would before the lovely blue logon screen is displayed... and nothing.. machine reboots... now... GOTO START; (i.e. it loops continuously doing the above) Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. BTW. It's a Dell Inspiron 8600 with WinXP Pro. [EDIT]Forgot to mention that that doesn't work.[/EDIT] Regards, Brian Dela :doh: http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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      Omega501
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      There is only one proper way to install a service pack 1) backup all data 2) slipstream the service pack into a bootable disc 3) blow away current os and do a full re-install 4) look on in wonder as the os works :) I have great misgivings about installing service packs (that replace 90% of the os system files) on a system that has who knows what software installed on - it's just not worth the risk

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        Brian Delahunty wrote: Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. Yep, the devil you don't know always looks less mean. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. This rules out pretty much everything except my non-updatable kitchen blender.


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        Brian Delahunty
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        peterchen wrote: Yep, the devil you don't know always looks less mean. I'll go back to my trusty Atari 2600 instead so. :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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        • B Brian Delahunty

          Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mad: :mad: Installed SP2 on my work machine yesterday. Perfect. No issues. Very impressed. Installed SP2 on an older machine at home last night. Perfect. No issues. Very Impressed. I though I'd just take the dive and install it on my laptop (where I do most of my non-work work.. if you know what I mean).... :eek: The damned laptop won't load windows now. :mad: START: Starts, after the BIOS post etc, I see the lovely loading Windows XP screen with the shiny blue progress bar bouncing from side to side to show me that something is actually happening... then the screen goes black, just like it would before the lovely blue logon screen is displayed... and nothing.. machine reboots... now... GOTO START; (i.e. it loops continuously doing the above) Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. BTW. It's a Dell Inspiron 8600 with WinXP Pro. [EDIT]Forgot to mention that that doesn't work.[/EDIT] Regards, Brian Dela :doh: http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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          Phil J Pearson
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          Brian Delahunty wrote: Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. I recommend Linux ... I haven't succeded in installing it on anything yet (despite trying several versions on several machines) so updates are definitely not a problem. ;P


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            There is only one proper way to install a service pack 1) backup all data 2) slipstream the service pack into a bootable disc 3) blow away current os and do a full re-install 4) look on in wonder as the os works :) I have great misgivings about installing service packs (that replace 90% of the os system files) on a system that has who knows what software installed on - it's just not worth the risk

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            Brian Delahunty
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            Omega501 wrote: backup all data All important data is backed up. It's just that it's time consuming to reinstall stuff and it's time that I don't have at the moment. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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            • P Phil J Pearson

              Brian Delahunty wrote: Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. I recommend Linux ... I haven't succeded in installing it on anything yet (despite trying several versions on several machines) so updates are definitely not a problem. ;P


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              Brian Delahunty
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              Never had a problem installing linux on anything. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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              • B Brian Delahunty

                Omega501 wrote: backup all data All important data is backed up. It's just that it's time consuming to reinstall stuff and it's time that I don't have at the moment. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                Omega501
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                I know the feeling about time taken - I've just spent 2 days making a bootable XP sP2 dvd with all the drivers, utilities and apps used on my network - only just have it working now. Most of the time taken though was waiting for the dvd to burn at 2x :(

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                  Never had a problem installing linux on anything. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                  Phil J Pearson
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                  The only time I've ever succeeded was on MS Virtual PC running on XP.


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                  • O Omega501

                    There is only one proper way to install a service pack 1) backup all data 2) slipstream the service pack into a bootable disc 3) blow away current os and do a full re-install 4) look on in wonder as the os works :) I have great misgivings about installing service packs (that replace 90% of the os system files) on a system that has who knows what software installed on - it's just not worth the risk

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                    Andrew Peace
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                    100% agreed. I'm gonna slipstream SP2 onto an XP CD tonight methinks :-). -- Andrew.

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                    • B Brian Delahunty

                      Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mad: :mad: Installed SP2 on my work machine yesterday. Perfect. No issues. Very impressed. Installed SP2 on an older machine at home last night. Perfect. No issues. Very Impressed. I though I'd just take the dive and install it on my laptop (where I do most of my non-work work.. if you know what I mean).... :eek: The damned laptop won't load windows now. :mad: START: Starts, after the BIOS post etc, I see the lovely loading Windows XP screen with the shiny blue progress bar bouncing from side to side to show me that something is actually happening... then the screen goes black, just like it would before the lovely blue logon screen is displayed... and nothing.. machine reboots... now... GOTO START; (i.e. it loops continuously doing the above) Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. BTW. It's a Dell Inspiron 8600 with WinXP Pro. [EDIT]Forgot to mention that that doesn't work.[/EDIT] Regards, Brian Dela :doh: http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                      Mike Dimmick
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                      I've seen those symptoms before - I last saw that when I had an ACPI HAL installed and set the BIOS to no-ACPI mode. Windows doesn't seem to cope properly with that. I fixed it by reenabling ACPI. You may be able to fix it by booting from the CD and selecting Repair. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                      • B Brian Delahunty

                        Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mad: :mad: Installed SP2 on my work machine yesterday. Perfect. No issues. Very impressed. Installed SP2 on an older machine at home last night. Perfect. No issues. Very Impressed. I though I'd just take the dive and install it on my laptop (where I do most of my non-work work.. if you know what I mean).... :eek: The damned laptop won't load windows now. :mad: START: Starts, after the BIOS post etc, I see the lovely loading Windows XP screen with the shiny blue progress bar bouncing from side to side to show me that something is actually happening... then the screen goes black, just like it would before the lovely blue logon screen is displayed... and nothing.. machine reboots... now... GOTO START; (i.e. it loops continuously doing the above) Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. BTW. It's a Dell Inspiron 8600 with WinXP Pro. [EDIT]Forgot to mention that that doesn't work.[/EDIT] Regards, Brian Dela :doh: http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        Oh no, Brian! I remember we have the same laptop - looks like I'm going to hold off until there's an acceptable foolproof process (if one exists) to upgrade. :( /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com

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                        • O Omega501

                          I know the feeling about time taken - I've just spent 2 days making a bootable XP sP2 dvd with all the drivers, utilities and apps used on my network - only just have it working now. Most of the time taken though was waiting for the dvd to burn at 2x :(

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                          > bootable XP sP2 dvd with all the drivers, utilities and apps I've come across some instructions for how to create a bootable XP CD with SP2 slipstreamed, and would *love* to be able to burn this to a DVD instead of a CD (so I can lump all my standard must-have apps together on a single media). Are there any special settings you have to take care of when burning to a bootable DVD? Specifying number of sectors, that kind of crap? Got a step-by-step site? I'd be very grateful...

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                            Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mad: :mad: Installed SP2 on my work machine yesterday. Perfect. No issues. Very impressed. Installed SP2 on an older machine at home last night. Perfect. No issues. Very Impressed. I though I'd just take the dive and install it on my laptop (where I do most of my non-work work.. if you know what I mean).... :eek: The damned laptop won't load windows now. :mad: START: Starts, after the BIOS post etc, I see the lovely loading Windows XP screen with the shiny blue progress bar bouncing from side to side to show me that something is actually happening... then the screen goes black, just like it would before the lovely blue logon screen is displayed... and nothing.. machine reboots... now... GOTO START; (i.e. it loops continuously doing the above) Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. BTW. It's a Dell Inspiron 8600 with WinXP Pro. [EDIT]Forgot to mention that that doesn't work.[/EDIT] Regards, Brian Dela :doh: http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                            I've had blue screens twice now since installing SP2 when accessing a CD. The first time it happened the instant I put a CD in the drive, the second time when it was just about done reading files off of it. I'm not sure if XP2 is to blame, but it's hard to rule out since I haven't had a single blue screen on this machine so far--but OTOH I've only had the machine itself for less than a month. The timing is still suspicious though.

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                              Never had a problem installing linux on anything. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                              It always takes me about 2 days to get Linux installed on a system. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                I've seen those symptoms before - I last saw that when I had an ACPI HAL installed and set the BIOS to no-ACPI mode. Windows doesn't seem to cope properly with that. I fixed it by reenabling ACPI. You may be able to fix it by booting from the CD and selecting Repair. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                                Brian Delahunty
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                                Yeah. That's exactly how I fixed the issue.. a repair. :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                                • P peterchen

                                  Brian Delahunty wrote: Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. Yep, the devil you don't know always looks less mean. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. This rules out pretty much everything except my non-updatable kitchen blender.


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                                  peterchen wrote: This rules out pretty much everything except my non-updatable kitchen blender. Yours is not updatable? They still make them? Best, Jerry

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                                    Brian Delahunty wrote: Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. Yep, the devil you don't know always looks less mean. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. This rules out pretty much everything except my non-updatable kitchen blender.


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                                    Roger Wright
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                                    peterchen wrote: non-updatable kitchen blender You haven't applied Oster.Net 2.0 yet?:omg: "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                                      Brian Delahunty wrote: Ah... I'm moving to linux, or a mac.. Yep, the devil you don't know always looks less mean. or something that doesn't screw up when you install an update. This rules out pretty much everything except my non-updatable kitchen blender.


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                                      Actually, I do know, and it is less mean. Jeremy Falcon

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                                        It always takes me about 2 days to get Linux installed on a system. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                        Brian Delahunty
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                                        What the hell do you do?? A full install of SuSE 9.1 took around 6 hours for me.. but I would never use half of the installed stuff. Not long after I installed it I reclaimed th partitions for Windows though. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com IE 6 required.
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                                          > bootable XP sP2 dvd with all the drivers, utilities and apps I've come across some instructions for how to create a bootable XP CD with SP2 slipstreamed, and would *love* to be able to burn this to a DVD instead of a CD (so I can lump all my standard must-have apps together on a single media). Are there any special settings you have to take care of when burning to a bootable DVD? Specifying number of sectors, that kind of crap? Got a step-by-step site? I'd be very grateful...

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                                          the best one i've found is at www.bink.nu/bootcd[^] you have to do a little bit of translating from older versions of nero to what's current, but nothing major (screenshots are a little different is all) The one thing I found was that as soon as I push the dvd over 4 gig it stopped working as a bootable xp disc - working this out is what took 2 days :( THIS[^] is the most important pic as you have to make sure you use no emulation and change the sector load count to 4, but other than that you can add anything you want up to 4 gig in size You also need to download the xp bootsector for the cd here [^]

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