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    Joel Holdsworth
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    Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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      Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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      Daniel Turini
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      After you understand virtual, please explain me static :-D Yes, even I am blogging now!

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        Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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        ColinDavies
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        Unsure, But maybe it is that you can do thinks in a virtual class or function that you can't do in a base or derived one. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: Watch this signature for an upcoming announcement that will affect you.

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          After you understand virtual, please explain me static :-D Yes, even I am blogging now!

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          Joel Holdsworth
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          Yeah that's a good one - especiallly static functions :wtf:; what a stupid name! Joel Holdsworth

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            Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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            If you have got a deep interest in the history of C++ the book you should get is "The Design And Evolution of C++" by Stroustrup (father of C++). http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dblended%26field-keywords%3Ddesign%252520and%252520evolution%252520c%25252B%25252B%26store-name%3Dall-product-search/102-0180251-2256166 As for virtual allow me to speculate. The Ada programming language that appeared AFAIK before C++ has got a keyword "generic", which might be slightly related to "virtual". :) Adam _____________________________________ Action without thought is not action Action without emotion is not life

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              If you have got a deep interest in the history of C++ the book you should get is "The Design And Evolution of C++" by Stroustrup (father of C++). http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dblended%26field-keywords%3Ddesign%252520and%252520evolution%252520c%25252B%25252B%26store-name%3Dall-product-search/102-0180251-2256166 As for virtual allow me to speculate. The Ada programming language that appeared AFAIK before C++ has got a keyword "generic", which might be slightly related to "virtual". :) Adam _____________________________________ Action without thought is not action Action without emotion is not life

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              Very insightful. :-) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: Watch this signature for an upcoming announcement that will affect you.

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                After you understand virtual, please explain me static :-D Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                leppie
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                C/C++ C# ==================================== static private virtual abstract Anyways, thats how I understand it. :) top secret xacc-ide 0.0.1

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                  Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  I think you should ignore the fact that a virtual method may have a default implementation where it's declared. The function is there (declared) but not there at the same time (not implemented). It's virtually there. :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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                    I think you should ignore the fact that a virtual method may have a default implementation where it's declared. The function is there (declared) but not there at the same time (not implemented). It's virtually there. :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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                    Joel Holdsworth
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                    Yeah that kinda makes sense... but it still seems a little flimsy. Why not overridable or somthing else... somthing more intuitive. Joel Holdsworth

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                      Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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                      From "The C++ programming language" by B. Stroustrup: The word virtual means: "may be redifined later in a class derived from this one."

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                        Yeah that kinda makes sense... but it still seems a little flimsy. Why not overridable or somthing else... somthing more intuitive. Joel Holdsworth

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                        Roger Alsing 0
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                        a friend of a friend *cough* said that that was a vb.net keyword you dont want to include vb keywords into c++ do you? //Roger

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                          If you have got a deep interest in the history of C++ the book you should get is "The Design And Evolution of C++" by Stroustrup (father of C++). http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dblended%26field-keywords%3Ddesign%252520and%252520evolution%252520c%25252B%25252B%26store-name%3Dall-product-search/102-0180251-2256166 As for virtual allow me to speculate. The Ada programming language that appeared AFAIK before C++ has got a keyword "generic", which might be slightly related to "virtual". :) Adam _____________________________________ Action without thought is not action Action without emotion is not life

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                          Anthony_Yio
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                          "generic" makes more sense to me though, than "virtual" Sonork 100.41263:Anthony_Yio

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                            C/C++ C# ==================================== static private virtual abstract Anyways, thats how I understand it. :) top secret xacc-ide 0.0.1

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                            Jon Hulatt
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                            que? are you saying that static is the same as private, and virtual is the same as abstract?

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                              After you understand virtual, please explain me static :-D Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                              David Crow
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                              Daniel Turini wrote: please explain me static It simply means "lack of change." Another definition says it "lacks action or movement."


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                                From "The C++ programming language" by B. Stroustrup: The word virtual means: "may be redifined later in a class derived from this one."

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                                Kastellanos Nikos
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                                Bob Stanneveld wrote: From "The C++ programming language" by B. Stroustrup: The word virtual means: "may be redifined later in a class derived from this one." My "English/C++ lexicon" said the same thing. :cool: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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                                  Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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                                  papaya_zm
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                                  virtual is virtual,no reason,no history!

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                                    Yeah that kinda makes sense... but it still seems a little flimsy. Why not overridable or somthing else... somthing more intuitive. Joel Holdsworth

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                                    Joel Holdsworth wrote: Why not overridable sorry, overridable is not the same. Joel Holdsworth wrote: somthing more intuitive.

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