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  • J Joel Holdsworth

    Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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    Daniel Turini
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    After you understand virtual, please explain me static :-D Yes, even I am blogging now!

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    • J Joel Holdsworth

      Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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      ColinDavies
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      Unsure, But maybe it is that you can do thinks in a virtual class or function that you can't do in a base or derived one. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: Watch this signature for an upcoming announcement that will affect you.

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        After you understand virtual, please explain me static :-D Yes, even I am blogging now!

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        Joel Holdsworth
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        Yeah that's a good one - especiallly static functions :wtf:; what a stupid name! Joel Holdsworth

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        • J Joel Holdsworth

          Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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          If you have got a deep interest in the history of C++ the book you should get is "The Design And Evolution of C++" by Stroustrup (father of C++). http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dblended%26field-keywords%3Ddesign%252520and%252520evolution%252520c%25252B%25252B%26store-name%3Dall-product-search/102-0180251-2256166 As for virtual allow me to speculate. The Ada programming language that appeared AFAIK before C++ has got a keyword "generic", which might be slightly related to "virtual". :) Adam _____________________________________ Action without thought is not action Action without emotion is not life

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            If you have got a deep interest in the history of C++ the book you should get is "The Design And Evolution of C++" by Stroustrup (father of C++). http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dblended%26field-keywords%3Ddesign%252520and%252520evolution%252520c%25252B%25252B%26store-name%3Dall-product-search/102-0180251-2256166 As for virtual allow me to speculate. The Ada programming language that appeared AFAIK before C++ has got a keyword "generic", which might be slightly related to "virtual". :) Adam _____________________________________ Action without thought is not action Action without emotion is not life

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            Very insightful. :-) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: Watch this signature for an upcoming announcement that will affect you.

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            • D Daniel Turini

              After you understand virtual, please explain me static :-D Yes, even I am blogging now!

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              leppie
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              C/C++ C# ==================================== static private virtual abstract Anyways, thats how I understand it. :) top secret xacc-ide 0.0.1

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              • J Joel Holdsworth

                Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                I think you should ignore the fact that a virtual method may have a default implementation where it's declared. The function is there (declared) but not there at the same time (not implemented). It's virtually there. :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  I think you should ignore the fact that a virtual method may have a default implementation where it's declared. The function is there (declared) but not there at the same time (not implemented). It's virtually there. :) -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...

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                  Joel Holdsworth
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                  Yeah that kinda makes sense... but it still seems a little flimsy. Why not overridable or somthing else... somthing more intuitive. Joel Holdsworth

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                  • J Joel Holdsworth

                    Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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                    Bob Stanneveld
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                    From "The C++ programming language" by B. Stroustrup: The word virtual means: "may be redifined later in a class derived from this one."

                    A student knows little about a lot. A professor knows a lot about little. I know everything about nothing.

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                    • J Joel Holdsworth

                      Yeah that kinda makes sense... but it still seems a little flimsy. Why not overridable or somthing else... somthing more intuitive. Joel Holdsworth

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                      Roger Alsing 0
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                      a friend of a friend *cough* said that that was a vb.net keyword you dont want to include vb keywords into c++ do you? //Roger

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                      • M megaadam

                        If you have got a deep interest in the history of C++ the book you should get is "The Design And Evolution of C++" by Stroustrup (father of C++). http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dblended%26field-keywords%3Ddesign%252520and%252520evolution%252520c%25252B%25252B%26store-name%3Dall-product-search/102-0180251-2256166 As for virtual allow me to speculate. The Ada programming language that appeared AFAIK before C++ has got a keyword "generic", which might be slightly related to "virtual". :) Adam _____________________________________ Action without thought is not action Action without emotion is not life

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                        Anthony_Yio
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                        "generic" makes more sense to me though, than "virtual" Sonork 100.41263:Anthony_Yio

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                          C/C++ C# ==================================== static private virtual abstract Anyways, thats how I understand it. :) top secret xacc-ide 0.0.1

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                          Jon Hulatt
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                          que? are you saying that static is the same as private, and virtual is the same as abstract?

                          #include <beer.h>

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                          • D Daniel Turini

                            After you understand virtual, please explain me static :-D Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                            David Crow
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                            Daniel Turini wrote: please explain me static It simply means "lack of change." Another definition says it "lacks action or movement."


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                              From "The C++ programming language" by B. Stroustrup: The word virtual means: "may be redifined later in a class derived from this one."

                              A student knows little about a lot. A professor knows a lot about little. I know everything about nothing.

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                              Kastellanos Nikos
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                              Bob Stanneveld wrote: From "The C++ programming language" by B. Stroustrup: The word virtual means: "may be redifined later in a class derived from this one." My "English/C++ lexicon" said the same thing. :cool: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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                              • J Joel Holdsworth

                                Does anyone know why the virtual keyword in C++ has this name? It doesn't seem like a very sensible title for it. There must be some history to it or somthing? Joel Holdsworth

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                                papaya_zm
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                                virtual is virtual,no reason,no history!

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                                • J Joel Holdsworth

                                  Yeah that kinda makes sense... but it still seems a little flimsy. Why not overridable or somthing else... somthing more intuitive. Joel Holdsworth

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                                  Joel Holdsworth wrote: Why not overridable sorry, overridable is not the same. Joel Holdsworth wrote: somthing more intuitive.

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