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    Perhaps you, as my computer programming friends, can offer some advice. Her name's Crystal. I first encountered her in an anthropology class at the local community college in 2000. I never talked to her though, but considering she was easily the most beautiful girl in the class - I certainly noticed her. Throughout the first half of 2001 we ran into each other completely randomly about 4 times. She gave me her phone number, but she had a boyfriend so I never called her. Then, my mother switches jobs and starts managing a local restaurant. On her birthday, I come to her work to deliver flowers and guess who's working there with my mother? So we talked for a while and it coincidentally turned out we had both signed up for Calculus II during the summer session, as we both needed to take Calculus III in the fall. So we saw each other nearly every day in the summer and during the fall. One Saturday, I was driving to a restaurant which happened to be by the college. As I was stopped at a red light, she came and knocked on my window. She told me she was dropping all of her classes and moving back so San Francisco because she broke up with her boyfriend. I offered to talk to her about it. It was a hot day, and I knew where some air vents were so I suggested we go there and chat. We did, and it lasted for nearly 4 hours. After that, she would call me quite frequently and we would talk for long periods of time. I even was instrumental in helping her get a new apartment. Then, shortly after she moves into her new apartment, she abruptly stops calling and I am completely unable to get ahold of her. So, after an entire month of anguish (because I really, really like this girl) I thought to myself, “I am going to completely forget about Crystal.” Not five minutes later she calls me. Confused? Just a little. So I start talking to her again. She calls me once or twice a week. I even drove her to the airport and picked her up just recently. I've never made physical contact with her, literally. I'm really confused about what to do. I even wrote a chatter bot program which spits out crude advice. So how about it? What should I do? Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend?

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      Perhaps you, as my computer programming friends, can offer some advice. Her name's Crystal. I first encountered her in an anthropology class at the local community college in 2000. I never talked to her though, but considering she was easily the most beautiful girl in the class - I certainly noticed her. Throughout the first half of 2001 we ran into each other completely randomly about 4 times. She gave me her phone number, but she had a boyfriend so I never called her. Then, my mother switches jobs and starts managing a local restaurant. On her birthday, I come to her work to deliver flowers and guess who's working there with my mother? So we talked for a while and it coincidentally turned out we had both signed up for Calculus II during the summer session, as we both needed to take Calculus III in the fall. So we saw each other nearly every day in the summer and during the fall. One Saturday, I was driving to a restaurant which happened to be by the college. As I was stopped at a red light, she came and knocked on my window. She told me she was dropping all of her classes and moving back so San Francisco because she broke up with her boyfriend. I offered to talk to her about it. It was a hot day, and I knew where some air vents were so I suggested we go there and chat. We did, and it lasted for nearly 4 hours. After that, she would call me quite frequently and we would talk for long periods of time. I even was instrumental in helping her get a new apartment. Then, shortly after she moves into her new apartment, she abruptly stops calling and I am completely unable to get ahold of her. So, after an entire month of anguish (because I really, really like this girl) I thought to myself, “I am going to completely forget about Crystal.” Not five minutes later she calls me. Confused? Just a little. So I start talking to her again. She calls me once or twice a week. I even drove her to the airport and picked her up just recently. I've never made physical contact with her, literally. I'm really confused about what to do. I even wrote a chatter bot program which spits out crude advice. So how about it? What should I do? Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend?

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      I'm no expert but, (don't you just hate that line :) ) tell her how you feel. She'll either drop you like a ton of bricks or she'll tell you that she feels the same way. Either way you will know. This code is provided as is with no warranties as to it's appropriateness or usefulness in any application in which it may be used. Use at your own risk. --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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        I'm no expert but, (don't you just hate that line :) ) tell her how you feel. She'll either drop you like a ton of bricks or she'll tell you that she feels the same way. Either way you will know. This code is provided as is with no warranties as to it's appropriateness or usefulness in any application in which it may be used. Use at your own risk. --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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        A couple of tests that usually work: 1. "I saw a beautiful girl yesterday. Not as beautiful as you are, of course :rolleyes: , but ..." 2. "It's so hard to find a decent person to be with today. Apart from you, I know almost nobody that I want to spend my time with..." 3. "If I were your boyfriend (theoreticaly, of course :rolleyes: ) I would take you to..." Just watch her reactions. P.S. My wife is watching me writing this. I'm in trouble!!! I vote pro drink :beer:

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          Perhaps you, as my computer programming friends, can offer some advice. Her name's Crystal. I first encountered her in an anthropology class at the local community college in 2000. I never talked to her though, but considering she was easily the most beautiful girl in the class - I certainly noticed her. Throughout the first half of 2001 we ran into each other completely randomly about 4 times. She gave me her phone number, but she had a boyfriend so I never called her. Then, my mother switches jobs and starts managing a local restaurant. On her birthday, I come to her work to deliver flowers and guess who's working there with my mother? So we talked for a while and it coincidentally turned out we had both signed up for Calculus II during the summer session, as we both needed to take Calculus III in the fall. So we saw each other nearly every day in the summer and during the fall. One Saturday, I was driving to a restaurant which happened to be by the college. As I was stopped at a red light, she came and knocked on my window. She told me she was dropping all of her classes and moving back so San Francisco because she broke up with her boyfriend. I offered to talk to her about it. It was a hot day, and I knew where some air vents were so I suggested we go there and chat. We did, and it lasted for nearly 4 hours. After that, she would call me quite frequently and we would talk for long periods of time. I even was instrumental in helping her get a new apartment. Then, shortly after she moves into her new apartment, she abruptly stops calling and I am completely unable to get ahold of her. So, after an entire month of anguish (because I really, really like this girl) I thought to myself, “I am going to completely forget about Crystal.” Not five minutes later she calls me. Confused? Just a little. So I start talking to her again. She calls me once or twice a week. I even drove her to the airport and picked her up just recently. I've never made physical contact with her, literally. I'm really confused about what to do. I even wrote a chatter bot program which spits out crude advice. So how about it? What should I do? Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend?

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          If you have trouble actually speaking to her about your emotions, perhaps you could write her an email. From your post,it is obvious that you write well, so putting your feelings into words should not be too hard. Hope things work out fine... Good Luck Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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            Perhaps you, as my computer programming friends, can offer some advice. Her name's Crystal. I first encountered her in an anthropology class at the local community college in 2000. I never talked to her though, but considering she was easily the most beautiful girl in the class - I certainly noticed her. Throughout the first half of 2001 we ran into each other completely randomly about 4 times. She gave me her phone number, but she had a boyfriend so I never called her. Then, my mother switches jobs and starts managing a local restaurant. On her birthday, I come to her work to deliver flowers and guess who's working there with my mother? So we talked for a while and it coincidentally turned out we had both signed up for Calculus II during the summer session, as we both needed to take Calculus III in the fall. So we saw each other nearly every day in the summer and during the fall. One Saturday, I was driving to a restaurant which happened to be by the college. As I was stopped at a red light, she came and knocked on my window. She told me she was dropping all of her classes and moving back so San Francisco because she broke up with her boyfriend. I offered to talk to her about it. It was a hot day, and I knew where some air vents were so I suggested we go there and chat. We did, and it lasted for nearly 4 hours. After that, she would call me quite frequently and we would talk for long periods of time. I even was instrumental in helping her get a new apartment. Then, shortly after she moves into her new apartment, she abruptly stops calling and I am completely unable to get ahold of her. So, after an entire month of anguish (because I really, really like this girl) I thought to myself, “I am going to completely forget about Crystal.” Not five minutes later she calls me. Confused? Just a little. So I start talking to her again. She calls me once or twice a week. I even drove her to the airport and picked her up just recently. I've never made physical contact with her, literally. I'm really confused about what to do. I even wrote a chatter bot program which spits out crude advice. So how about it? What should I do? Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend?

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            Adam Arthur wrote: Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend? Gotta go with no on that one. Women can have men as friends. Meaning friends, not "someone I talk and hang out with and shag too". If she did have romantic interest in you, she would've at least flirted (ie, some physical contact) a little. And the fact that she skipped town because of a break-up means she's kind of a flake and unstable. I mean, I can understand crying for a couple days or something over a boyfriend, but dropping out of school? C'mon. </cynical:male:opinion> --Mike-- My really out-of-date homepage Buffy's on. Gotta go, bye! Sonork - 100.10414 AcidHelm Big fan of Alyson Hannigan.

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              Adam Arthur wrote: Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend? Gotta go with no on that one. Women can have men as friends. Meaning friends, not "someone I talk and hang out with and shag too". If she did have romantic interest in you, she would've at least flirted (ie, some physical contact) a little. And the fact that she skipped town because of a break-up means she's kind of a flake and unstable. I mean, I can understand crying for a couple days or something over a boyfriend, but dropping out of school? C'mon. </cynical:male:opinion> --Mike-- My really out-of-date homepage Buffy's on. Gotta go, bye! Sonork - 100.10414 AcidHelm Big fan of Alyson Hannigan.

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              But Mike The line dividing friendship and romance is sooo soooo thin. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                Adam Arthur wrote: Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend? Gotta go with no on that one. Women can have men as friends. Meaning friends, not "someone I talk and hang out with and shag too". If she did have romantic interest in you, she would've at least flirted (ie, some physical contact) a little. And the fact that she skipped town because of a break-up means she's kind of a flake and unstable. I mean, I can understand crying for a couple days or something over a boyfriend, but dropping out of school? C'mon. </cynical:male:opinion> --Mike-- My really out-of-date homepage Buffy's on. Gotta go, bye! Sonork - 100.10414 AcidHelm Big fan of Alyson Hannigan.

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                I wouldn't be too quick to write her off. They are both obviously geeks. Hell, he frequents CodeProject and they are taking Calculus II & III. Maybe serious hard core geeks even. Geeks sometimes have a hard time with personal relationships and expressing themselves verbally. Maybe each is waiting for the other to make the first romantic move? Maybe each is confiding with their own "cyber buddies" on the situaton? ...but then again, maybe not. I say be open & honest and tell her how you feel. If she feels the same way, you win. If she doesn't, it clears things up so you still win. This is really very simple and a win-win proposition. I once new a guy who was the biggest flirt in the world. He hit on women all the time. He wasn't the smoothest guy in the world, or the best looking, or the smartest, or the richest. He got shot down A LOT! But then again, he scored A LOT too. His motto: She can't say no, unless you ask. Disclaimer: I too am a geek. Although I don't have any issues about expressing myself to my wife (or previous girlfriends) verbally. I do NOT use the term "geek" as an insult, it is purely descriptive in my opinion.

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                  Perhaps you, as my computer programming friends, can offer some advice. Her name's Crystal. I first encountered her in an anthropology class at the local community college in 2000. I never talked to her though, but considering she was easily the most beautiful girl in the class - I certainly noticed her. Throughout the first half of 2001 we ran into each other completely randomly about 4 times. She gave me her phone number, but she had a boyfriend so I never called her. Then, my mother switches jobs and starts managing a local restaurant. On her birthday, I come to her work to deliver flowers and guess who's working there with my mother? So we talked for a while and it coincidentally turned out we had both signed up for Calculus II during the summer session, as we both needed to take Calculus III in the fall. So we saw each other nearly every day in the summer and during the fall. One Saturday, I was driving to a restaurant which happened to be by the college. As I was stopped at a red light, she came and knocked on my window. She told me she was dropping all of her classes and moving back so San Francisco because she broke up with her boyfriend. I offered to talk to her about it. It was a hot day, and I knew where some air vents were so I suggested we go there and chat. We did, and it lasted for nearly 4 hours. After that, she would call me quite frequently and we would talk for long periods of time. I even was instrumental in helping her get a new apartment. Then, shortly after she moves into her new apartment, she abruptly stops calling and I am completely unable to get ahold of her. So, after an entire month of anguish (because I really, really like this girl) I thought to myself, “I am going to completely forget about Crystal.” Not five minutes later she calls me. Confused? Just a little. So I start talking to her again. She calls me once or twice a week. I even drove her to the airport and picked her up just recently. I've never made physical contact with her, literally. I'm really confused about what to do. I even wrote a chatter bot program which spits out crude advice. So how about it? What should I do? Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend?

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                  Konstantin Vasserman
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                  Where are all the female CPians when you need them? :) Like a couple of other people have already suggested - tell her how you feel. Bring it out in the open. The truth shell set you free. I suggest doing it in person and not over email. This is why: There will be only 3 possible reactions from her in response to your feelings: 1. She feels the same way about you and she wants to be with you. 2. She does not feel the same way. She just want to be a friend or not even a friend and she tells you so. 3. She does not feel the same way, but she wants to play games and keep her options open. If it will be 1 or 2 - consider yourself very lucky. 1 is what you want. 2 is a rare case, because most women today are raised to choose 3 over 2. They would rather play a game than come out and tell you the truth. In order to distinguish between 1 and 3 you have to see her personal reaction, you have to be face to face with her. If you will not be able to tell the difference you might end up being used, manipulated and emotionally tortured for a long period of time. It is very easy to mistake 3 for 1, especially, when you in love. Your mind might tell you one thing, but your whole being does not want to listen to reason and would rather let you live in the dream world than face the facts. It is all up to how good you are at feeling and understanding of the other person and how good you are at listening to your reason. Keep your eyes wide open, watch her every move, her every face expression, her every inner motion and compare them to the words she says. By being open and with a little luck you'll be able to understand what is really going on. I hope this helps at least a little. Good luck.

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                    Perhaps you, as my computer programming friends, can offer some advice. Her name's Crystal. I first encountered her in an anthropology class at the local community college in 2000. I never talked to her though, but considering she was easily the most beautiful girl in the class - I certainly noticed her. Throughout the first half of 2001 we ran into each other completely randomly about 4 times. She gave me her phone number, but she had a boyfriend so I never called her. Then, my mother switches jobs and starts managing a local restaurant. On her birthday, I come to her work to deliver flowers and guess who's working there with my mother? So we talked for a while and it coincidentally turned out we had both signed up for Calculus II during the summer session, as we both needed to take Calculus III in the fall. So we saw each other nearly every day in the summer and during the fall. One Saturday, I was driving to a restaurant which happened to be by the college. As I was stopped at a red light, she came and knocked on my window. She told me she was dropping all of her classes and moving back so San Francisco because she broke up with her boyfriend. I offered to talk to her about it. It was a hot day, and I knew where some air vents were so I suggested we go there and chat. We did, and it lasted for nearly 4 hours. After that, she would call me quite frequently and we would talk for long periods of time. I even was instrumental in helping her get a new apartment. Then, shortly after she moves into her new apartment, she abruptly stops calling and I am completely unable to get ahold of her. So, after an entire month of anguish (because I really, really like this girl) I thought to myself, “I am going to completely forget about Crystal.” Not five minutes later she calls me. Confused? Just a little. So I start talking to her again. She calls me once or twice a week. I even drove her to the airport and picked her up just recently. I've never made physical contact with her, literally. I'm really confused about what to do. I even wrote a chatter bot program which spits out crude advice. So how about it? What should I do? Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend?

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    Come site down and talk to Uncle Chris. Chances are she's still getting over her boyfriend. The last thing she's thinking about is going out with another guy. Be a friend and be there for her. If it's gonna happen it will happen, but maybe not right now. If it continues on and you're just friends then is that so bad? Whatever you do don't lay it on her until you are sure she's over her BF, and be prepared to have her say she just wants to be friends (and if you don't want to just be friends with her then the relationship would have been doomed anyway). Don't put her up on an ivory tower. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      Perhaps you, as my computer programming friends, can offer some advice. Her name's Crystal. I first encountered her in an anthropology class at the local community college in 2000. I never talked to her though, but considering she was easily the most beautiful girl in the class - I certainly noticed her. Throughout the first half of 2001 we ran into each other completely randomly about 4 times. She gave me her phone number, but she had a boyfriend so I never called her. Then, my mother switches jobs and starts managing a local restaurant. On her birthday, I come to her work to deliver flowers and guess who's working there with my mother? So we talked for a while and it coincidentally turned out we had both signed up for Calculus II during the summer session, as we both needed to take Calculus III in the fall. So we saw each other nearly every day in the summer and during the fall. One Saturday, I was driving to a restaurant which happened to be by the college. As I was stopped at a red light, she came and knocked on my window. She told me she was dropping all of her classes and moving back so San Francisco because she broke up with her boyfriend. I offered to talk to her about it. It was a hot day, and I knew where some air vents were so I suggested we go there and chat. We did, and it lasted for nearly 4 hours. After that, she would call me quite frequently and we would talk for long periods of time. I even was instrumental in helping her get a new apartment. Then, shortly after she moves into her new apartment, she abruptly stops calling and I am completely unable to get ahold of her. So, after an entire month of anguish (because I really, really like this girl) I thought to myself, “I am going to completely forget about Crystal.” Not five minutes later she calls me. Confused? Just a little. So I start talking to her again. She calls me once or twice a week. I even drove her to the airport and picked her up just recently. I've never made physical contact with her, literally. I'm really confused about what to do. I even wrote a chatter bot program which spits out crude advice. So how about it? What should I do? Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend?

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                      4 hours listening ... er, hmmm, talking and never made physical contact with her ? Are you asking for a bunch of geeks advice in dating ? Are you insane ? Ok, just in case: Drive your car now, go there and kiss her: 1. If she slaps you in the face, she doesn't like you. 2. If she pick a gun, you'd never want she was your girlfriend. 3. If she smiles and start taking off clothes, well, you are a lucky boy (maybe you're seeing too much XXX movies too) Now, if she starts talking you're a "good friend", a "wonderful person", go away fast and save another 4 hours of life. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment

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                        If you have trouble actually speaking to her about your emotions, perhaps you could write her an email. From your post,it is obvious that you write well, so putting your feelings into words should not be too hard. Hope things work out fine... Good Luck Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                        See what I meant about geeks ? :) Crivo Automated Credit Assessment

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                          See what I meant about geeks ? :) Crivo Automated Credit Assessment

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          What's geekish about an email? Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                            4 hours listening ... er, hmmm, talking and never made physical contact with her ? Are you asking for a bunch of geeks advice in dating ? Are you insane ? Ok, just in case: Drive your car now, go there and kiss her: 1. If she slaps you in the face, she doesn't like you. 2. If she pick a gun, you'd never want she was your girlfriend. 3. If she smiles and start taking off clothes, well, you are a lucky boy (maybe you're seeing too much XXX movies too) Now, if she starts talking you're a "good friend", a "wonderful person", go away fast and save another 4 hours of life. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment

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                            Wow, I was going to give some similar advice, But I think you have said it all. :-) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

                            Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                            I live in Bob's HungOut now

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                              Perhaps you, as my computer programming friends, can offer some advice. Her name's Crystal. I first encountered her in an anthropology class at the local community college in 2000. I never talked to her though, but considering she was easily the most beautiful girl in the class - I certainly noticed her. Throughout the first half of 2001 we ran into each other completely randomly about 4 times. She gave me her phone number, but she had a boyfriend so I never called her. Then, my mother switches jobs and starts managing a local restaurant. On her birthday, I come to her work to deliver flowers and guess who's working there with my mother? So we talked for a while and it coincidentally turned out we had both signed up for Calculus II during the summer session, as we both needed to take Calculus III in the fall. So we saw each other nearly every day in the summer and during the fall. One Saturday, I was driving to a restaurant which happened to be by the college. As I was stopped at a red light, she came and knocked on my window. She told me she was dropping all of her classes and moving back so San Francisco because she broke up with her boyfriend. I offered to talk to her about it. It was a hot day, and I knew where some air vents were so I suggested we go there and chat. We did, and it lasted for nearly 4 hours. After that, she would call me quite frequently and we would talk for long periods of time. I even was instrumental in helping her get a new apartment. Then, shortly after she moves into her new apartment, she abruptly stops calling and I am completely unable to get ahold of her. So, after an entire month of anguish (because I really, really like this girl) I thought to myself, “I am going to completely forget about Crystal.” Not five minutes later she calls me. Confused? Just a little. So I start talking to her again. She calls me once or twice a week. I even drove her to the airport and picked her up just recently. I've never made physical contact with her, literally. I'm really confused about what to do. I even wrote a chatter bot program which spits out crude advice. So how about it? What should I do? Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend?

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                              Michael P Butler
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                              Talk to her about it. As in good software projects, the best relationships are always based upon communication. You might not like what she has to say but you'll feel better for knowing. Just don't mention the chatter bot program :-D Michael :-)

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                                Come site down and talk to Uncle Chris. Chances are she's still getting over her boyfriend. The last thing she's thinking about is going out with another guy. Be a friend and be there for her. If it's gonna happen it will happen, but maybe not right now. If it continues on and you're just friends then is that so bad? Whatever you do don't lay it on her until you are sure she's over her BF, and be prepared to have her say she just wants to be friends (and if you don't want to just be friends with her then the relationship would have been doomed anyway). Don't put her up on an ivory tower. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                Now wait ..... isn't this the unmarried, unattached Uncle Chris, the one that was perving on everything remotely female (even the reptiles) that went past George Gregan's coffee shop in Sydney on the day XP was launched? ;P Where does all this wisdom come from now Chris? :-D Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                  4 hours listening ... er, hmmm, talking and never made physical contact with her ? Are you asking for a bunch of geeks advice in dating ? Are you insane ? Ok, just in case: Drive your car now, go there and kiss her: 1. If she slaps you in the face, she doesn't like you. 2. If she pick a gun, you'd never want she was your girlfriend. 3. If she smiles and start taking off clothes, well, you are a lucky boy (maybe you're seeing too much XXX movies too) Now, if she starts talking you're a "good friend", a "wonderful person", go away fast and save another 4 hours of life. Crivo Automated Credit Assessment

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                                  Daniel Turini wrote: 3. If she smiles and start taking off clothes, well, you are a lucky boy (maybe you're seeing too much XXX movies too) I have come to clean zee pooollll. :-D Currently being used in a advertising campaign for StrongBow alcoholic cider. Also the stereotypical line quoted from 1970's porn. Was this plot used a lot in 1970's porn John? Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                    What's geekish about an email? Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                    Simon Walton
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                                    Nish is right. All the "in" people are using e-mail today. Even if you include AOL users. Simon Hey, it looks like you're writing a letter! Sonork ID 100.10024

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                                      Now wait ..... isn't this the unmarried, unattached Uncle Chris, the one that was perving on everything remotely female (even the reptiles) that went past George Gregan's coffee shop in Sydney on the day XP was launched? ;P Where does all this wisdom come from now Chris? :-D Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                      Michael Martin wrote: Where does all this wisdom come from now Chris? Experience :D (and I'm ignoring the first comment :P ) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        Michael Martin wrote: Where does all this wisdom come from now Chris? Experience :D (and I'm ignoring the first comment :P ) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        Chris Maunder wrote: (and I'm ignoring the first comment ;P ) Why? Haven't you learnt by now that ignoring me or appealing to good side doesn't work, I'll still give you (or anybody else) shit like a good Aussie should. Also I didn't mention that you were looking mothers with children present up and down. :omg: Michael Martin Australia mmartin@netspace.net.au "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                          Perhaps you, as my computer programming friends, can offer some advice. Her name's Crystal. I first encountered her in an anthropology class at the local community college in 2000. I never talked to her though, but considering she was easily the most beautiful girl in the class - I certainly noticed her. Throughout the first half of 2001 we ran into each other completely randomly about 4 times. She gave me her phone number, but she had a boyfriend so I never called her. Then, my mother switches jobs and starts managing a local restaurant. On her birthday, I come to her work to deliver flowers and guess who's working there with my mother? So we talked for a while and it coincidentally turned out we had both signed up for Calculus II during the summer session, as we both needed to take Calculus III in the fall. So we saw each other nearly every day in the summer and during the fall. One Saturday, I was driving to a restaurant which happened to be by the college. As I was stopped at a red light, she came and knocked on my window. She told me she was dropping all of her classes and moving back so San Francisco because she broke up with her boyfriend. I offered to talk to her about it. It was a hot day, and I knew where some air vents were so I suggested we go there and chat. We did, and it lasted for nearly 4 hours. After that, she would call me quite frequently and we would talk for long periods of time. I even was instrumental in helping her get a new apartment. Then, shortly after she moves into her new apartment, she abruptly stops calling and I am completely unable to get ahold of her. So, after an entire month of anguish (because I really, really like this girl) I thought to myself, “I am going to completely forget about Crystal.” Not five minutes later she calls me. Confused? Just a little. So I start talking to her again. She calls me once or twice a week. I even drove her to the airport and picked her up just recently. I've never made physical contact with her, literally. I'm really confused about what to do. I even wrote a chatter bot program which spits out crude advice. So how about it? What should I do? Do you think this girl likes me for more than just a friend?

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                                          Roger Wright new
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                                          Some good advice here - try 'em all and let us know what worked! But from my 47 years' experience as a geek, I'd suggest that you stay in school, buy a dog, and rent a woman. Much cheaper in the long run...

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