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  • W wrykyn

    You'll get one of those fix-it tickets. You'll be required to bring your license and show it to some police official within 7 days (if you don't have your license when they stop you). Also, once they pull you over and you don't have a license you cannot drive away. You'll need to call someone and tell them to pick you up or something. Atleast this is what happened to a guy I know in Utah. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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    Ramanan Sivan wrote: You'll get one of those fix-it tickets. You'll be required to bring your license and show it to some police official within 7 days (if you don't have your license when they stop you). Yeah, AFAIK it is the same here. It just sounded odd that they would require you to have your license with you at all times else you'd get fined. Ramanan Sivan wrote: once they pull you over and you don't have a license you cannot drive away That sounds crazy. (I don't know if that is the same here, but I have never heard it mentioned.) Surely nowadays they can just do a search on your given name and match you up to your license? If they are worried about little Bobby using his Daddy's name they can quiz on the personal information you give when you buy your license, and they can match up the car to to the owner/address/etc using its registration number. Plus you'd need to take your license to a police station anyway so they could just take a photo.


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    • W wrykyn

      You need it if you're a foreign national to avoid getting in trouble. I know one person that tried to travel with his license and was stopped at an airport. Safest to carry your passport. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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      Paul Watson
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      True, good advice for anyone travelling/living in a foreign country. Thankfully my innocent face has Jedi mind tricked every official so far into letting me go. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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        Ramanan Sivan wrote: You'll get one of those fix-it tickets. You'll be required to bring your license and show it to some police official within 7 days (if you don't have your license when they stop you). Yeah, AFAIK it is the same here. It just sounded odd that they would require you to have your license with you at all times else you'd get fined. Ramanan Sivan wrote: once they pull you over and you don't have a license you cannot drive away That sounds crazy. (I don't know if that is the same here, but I have never heard it mentioned.) Surely nowadays they can just do a search on your given name and match you up to your license? If they are worried about little Bobby using his Daddy's name they can quiz on the personal information you give when you buy your license, and they can match up the car to to the owner/address/etc using its registration number. Plus you'd need to take your license to a police station anyway so they could just take a photo.


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        Actually the law does require you to carry your license with you at all times while driving. I guess they could look you up on the database but without your license how will they know they you are who you say you are. I doubt they will be bothered to go the extra mile and verify that the car is ours for our convenience using other forms of ID. Atleast they don't do it over here. There is no fine btw. Fix-it tickets, you can get whatever they want fix, fixed and they will waive the fine. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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        • W wrykyn

          Actually the law does require you to carry your license with you at all times while driving. I guess they could look you up on the database but without your license how will they know they you are who you say you are. I doubt they will be bothered to go the extra mile and verify that the car is ours for our convenience using other forms of ID. Atleast they don't do it over here. There is no fine btw. Fix-it tickets, you can get whatever they want fix, fixed and they will waive the fine. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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          Ramanan Sivan wrote: Actually the law does require you to carry your license with you at all times while driving. Yeah, sorry, I figured that out from your other reply. It wasn't clear from mine though. :-O Ramanan Sivan wrote: There is no fine btw. Fix-it tickets, you can get whatever they want fix, fixed and they will waive the fine. If the bit about having to call a tow-truck is true, then that would cost you £150 outright just to get you to the nearest garage, and loads more to get you home.


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          • G Giancarlo Aguilera

            So somehow over the weekend I lost my wallet, which contained my driver license as well as my ID card. Now here I am Monday morning with absolutely no way to prove my identity and VS Live is only two weeks away, an event for which my boss has setup everything for me to attend, air fare, hotel, event registration, etc... I called up the DMV and asked how long it would take to obtain replacements for my lost documents. Then I started crying when the person on the other side of the phone told me it would take at least 4 weeks. So far I'm screwed. Then I go and research how long it would take to get my passport. At first I thought I was saved, since for an extra fee a one day replacement is available. So I call, but sure enough in order to obtain my passport I need to show my birth certificate as well as my ID, which I don't have! Furthermore, the expedite service requires proof of international travel, yet I live in LA CA and VS Live is in SF CA. Finally, to top things off, I just thought, well I'm just going to have to cancel everything, but after Jan 5 VS Live registration is non refundable, or at least that's what my confirmation email states. So what the hell am I going to tell my boss now? Totally screwed

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            At least 4 weeks!! That's insane! Do you have a state ID card you can get in the mean time? Can you just go and retake your driver's test? They print up new cards in mintues. BW


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            Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
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              At least 4 weeks!! That's insane! Do you have a state ID card you can get in the mean time? Can you just go and retake your driver's test? They print up new cards in mintues. BW


              "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
              Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
              Today"
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              Giancarlo Aguilera
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              BW wrote: "At least 4 weeks!! That's insane! Do you have a state ID card you can get in the mean time? Can you just go and retake your driver's test? They print up new cards in mintues." Tell me about it! That's the problem, I had both my driver license and state ID card in my wallet. I already called them up and was told 4 weeks is the soonest, no ifs ands, or buts about it. Pretty crazy, huh, especially for us, given we're in the technology business and we know how easy it is to do something like printing up a card. Something else must definitely be going on. My main worry now is that at this point I can't get my money back for the event, although for everything else (hotel, air fair) I can. regards

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              • P Paul Watson

                Ah, right. This is why I am in favour of bar-code tattoos on all humans. Harder to loose. ;) Hope you figure something out in time for the event. Maybe give the event managers a call and ask if some alternate identification can be used (married? got bank statements? social security?) or pre-arrange that you won't have ID. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                Giancarlo Aguilera
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                Paul wrote: "Ah, right. This is why I am in favour of bar-code tattoos on all humans. Harder to loose" LOL!!! good idea, although, unfortunately, I have enough tattoos as it is. :-D regards giancarlo

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                • G Giancarlo Aguilera

                  BW wrote: "At least 4 weeks!! That's insane! Do you have a state ID card you can get in the mean time? Can you just go and retake your driver's test? They print up new cards in mintues." Tell me about it! That's the problem, I had both my driver license and state ID card in my wallet. I already called them up and was told 4 weeks is the soonest, no ifs ands, or buts about it. Pretty crazy, huh, especially for us, given we're in the technology business and we know how easy it is to do something like printing up a card. Something else must definitely be going on. My main worry now is that at this point I can't get my money back for the event, although for everything else (hotel, air fair) I can. regards

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                  brianwelsch
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                  If your DL is somewhat recent (a couple years), I imagine they have a digital copy of your photo on record. They could easily see you are who you claim, and print it out. That's frustrating. Hope it works out for you. BW


                  "Get up and open your eyes. Don't let yourself ever fall down.
                  Get through it and learn how to fly. I know you will find a way...
                  Today"
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                  • G Giancarlo Aguilera

                    So somehow over the weekend I lost my wallet, which contained my driver license as well as my ID card. Now here I am Monday morning with absolutely no way to prove my identity and VS Live is only two weeks away, an event for which my boss has setup everything for me to attend, air fare, hotel, event registration, etc... I called up the DMV and asked how long it would take to obtain replacements for my lost documents. Then I started crying when the person on the other side of the phone told me it would take at least 4 weeks. So far I'm screwed. Then I go and research how long it would take to get my passport. At first I thought I was saved, since for an extra fee a one day replacement is available. So I call, but sure enough in order to obtain my passport I need to show my birth certificate as well as my ID, which I don't have! Furthermore, the expedite service requires proof of international travel, yet I live in LA CA and VS Live is in SF CA. Finally, to top things off, I just thought, well I'm just going to have to cancel everything, but after Jan 5 VS Live registration is non refundable, or at least that's what my confirmation email states. So what the hell am I going to tell my boss now? Totally screwed

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                    Bamaco2
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                    I say get a credit card and take a taxi instead of renting a car. The hotel should not bother you too much if they see your credit card.

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                    • G Giancarlo Aguilera

                      So somehow over the weekend I lost my wallet, which contained my driver license as well as my ID card. Now here I am Monday morning with absolutely no way to prove my identity and VS Live is only two weeks away, an event for which my boss has setup everything for me to attend, air fare, hotel, event registration, etc... I called up the DMV and asked how long it would take to obtain replacements for my lost documents. Then I started crying when the person on the other side of the phone told me it would take at least 4 weeks. So far I'm screwed. Then I go and research how long it would take to get my passport. At first I thought I was saved, since for an extra fee a one day replacement is available. So I call, but sure enough in order to obtain my passport I need to show my birth certificate as well as my ID, which I don't have! Furthermore, the expedite service requires proof of international travel, yet I live in LA CA and VS Live is in SF CA. Finally, to top things off, I just thought, well I'm just going to have to cancel everything, but after Jan 5 VS Live registration is non refundable, or at least that's what my confirmation email states. So what the hell am I going to tell my boss now? Totally screwed

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                      Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: So what the hell am I going to tell my boss now? The truth is usually an admirable choice. I would not be nearly as concerned with attending VS Live than I would be about identity theft. In any case, California DMV will issue you an interim license valid for 60 days and/or a receipt for your ID card until you receive your new photo license and/or photo ID card in the mail (which is probably the 4-week thing you were initially told).


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                        Giancarlo Aguilera wrote: So what the hell am I going to tell my boss now? The truth is usually an admirable choice. I would not be nearly as concerned with attending VS Live than I would be about identity theft. In any case, California DMV will issue you an interim license valid for 60 days and/or a receipt for your ID card until you receive your new photo license and/or photo ID card in the mail (which is probably the 4-week thing you were initially told).


                        "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow

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                        Giancarlo Aguilera
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                        David wrote: "The truth is usually an admirable choice. I would not be nearly as concerned with attending VS Live than I would be about identity theft." I agree. If I miss VS Live, oh well. Identity theft, that's serious. Also, not being able to get a refund for the event is a problem.

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          Firstly, condolences. I have had all my identity stolen and it is a right royal pain. Secondly, pardon my stupidity but why do you need a passport to get from LA CA (Los Angeles, California?) to SF CA (San Francisco, California?) How risky is it to drive without a license there? Here you can go for months without being checked. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                          Dave Kreskowiak
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                          Yikes! That's a 9 hour drive up the Pacific Coast Highway, very scenic BTW, or about 7 hours up Interstate 5 in the middle of the desert and stinkin' nowhere. RageInTheMachine9532 "...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome

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                          • G Giancarlo Aguilera

                            So somehow over the weekend I lost my wallet, which contained my driver license as well as my ID card. Now here I am Monday morning with absolutely no way to prove my identity and VS Live is only two weeks away, an event for which my boss has setup everything for me to attend, air fare, hotel, event registration, etc... I called up the DMV and asked how long it would take to obtain replacements for my lost documents. Then I started crying when the person on the other side of the phone told me it would take at least 4 weeks. So far I'm screwed. Then I go and research how long it would take to get my passport. At first I thought I was saved, since for an extra fee a one day replacement is available. So I call, but sure enough in order to obtain my passport I need to show my birth certificate as well as my ID, which I don't have! Furthermore, the expedite service requires proof of international travel, yet I live in LA CA and VS Live is in SF CA. Finally, to top things off, I just thought, well I'm just going to have to cancel everything, but after Jan 5 VS Live registration is non refundable, or at least that's what my confirmation email states. So what the hell am I going to tell my boss now? Totally screwed

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                            Brian Delahunty
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                            Can you not get a passport in 2 weeks??? :OMG: and :WTF: if you can't. The standard is 10 days for a passport over here and you can actually get one in 3 hours (+ the time it takes to get to one of the 3 passport offices in the country). Over here you need some proof of your name (e.g. bank records will do), signature and proof of id from the Gardaí (police), and a copy of your birthcert. All of these could be obtained in a day and then 10 days max (including weekends) to get your Passport delivered. Oh, and sorry to hear it. I hope you manage to get something sorted out. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Now Bloging![^]

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                            • G Giancarlo Aguilera

                              So somehow over the weekend I lost my wallet, which contained my driver license as well as my ID card. Now here I am Monday morning with absolutely no way to prove my identity and VS Live is only two weeks away, an event for which my boss has setup everything for me to attend, air fare, hotel, event registration, etc... I called up the DMV and asked how long it would take to obtain replacements for my lost documents. Then I started crying when the person on the other side of the phone told me it would take at least 4 weeks. So far I'm screwed. Then I go and research how long it would take to get my passport. At first I thought I was saved, since for an extra fee a one day replacement is available. So I call, but sure enough in order to obtain my passport I need to show my birth certificate as well as my ID, which I don't have! Furthermore, the expedite service requires proof of international travel, yet I live in LA CA and VS Live is in SF CA. Finally, to top things off, I just thought, well I'm just going to have to cancel everything, but after Jan 5 VS Live registration is non refundable, or at least that's what my confirmation email states. So what the hell am I going to tell my boss now? Totally screwed

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                              Maybe you should move to Missouri. They print them while you wait. All digital and pretty looking. I've lost mine twice....once while floating down a river, and was able to have one made the same day within an hour. Good luck. Tom Wright tawright915@yahoo.com

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                                Maybe you should move to Missouri. They print them while you wait. All digital and pretty looking. I've lost mine twice....once while floating down a river, and was able to have one made the same day within an hour. Good luck. Tom Wright tawright915@yahoo.com

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                                Giancarlo Aguilera
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                                Tom wrote: "Maybe you should move to Missouri" I would like to move to some place like Missouri regardless. I'm sick of LA.

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                                • B Brian Delahunty

                                  Can you not get a passport in 2 weeks??? :OMG: and :WTF: if you can't. The standard is 10 days for a passport over here and you can actually get one in 3 hours (+ the time it takes to get to one of the 3 passport offices in the country). Over here you need some proof of your name (e.g. bank records will do), signature and proof of id from the Gardaí (police), and a copy of your birthcert. All of these could be obtained in a day and then 10 days max (including weekends) to get your Passport delivered. Oh, and sorry to hear it. I hope you manage to get something sorted out. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Now Bloging![^]

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                                  Giancarlo Aguilera
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                                  Brian wrote: "Can you not get a passport in 2 weeks??? :OMG: and :WTF: if you can't. The standard is 10 days for a passport over here and you can actually get one in 3 hours (+ the time it takes to get to one of the 3 passport offices in the country). " Yes, you can, actually you can get one in one day's time, given an extra fee. However, in order to get a passport you have to present a valid ID, which is what I don't have. regards

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                                  • G Giancarlo Aguilera

                                    So somehow over the weekend I lost my wallet, which contained my driver license as well as my ID card. Now here I am Monday morning with absolutely no way to prove my identity and VS Live is only two weeks away, an event for which my boss has setup everything for me to attend, air fare, hotel, event registration, etc... I called up the DMV and asked how long it would take to obtain replacements for my lost documents. Then I started crying when the person on the other side of the phone told me it would take at least 4 weeks. So far I'm screwed. Then I go and research how long it would take to get my passport. At first I thought I was saved, since for an extra fee a one day replacement is available. So I call, but sure enough in order to obtain my passport I need to show my birth certificate as well as my ID, which I don't have! Furthermore, the expedite service requires proof of international travel, yet I live in LA CA and VS Live is in SF CA. Finally, to top things off, I just thought, well I'm just going to have to cancel everything, but after Jan 5 VS Live registration is non refundable, or at least that's what my confirmation email states. So what the hell am I going to tell my boss now? Totally screwed

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                                    Navin
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                                    Take a bus to the conference. This will only work if you have a LOT of free time, though. :) An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                                    • P Paul Watson

                                      Ah, right. This is why I am in favour of bar-code tattoos on all humans. Harder to loose. ;) Hope you figure something out in time for the event. Maybe give the event managers a call and ask if some alternate identification can be used (married? got bank statements? social security?) or pre-arrange that you won't have ID. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                                      I was thinking more along the line of microchips in the back of our necks. Like the ones we use on pets. Rowf! cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        I was thinking more along the line of microchips in the back of our necks. Like the ones we use on pets. Rowf! cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        The bar-code tattoo is a bit more fashionable (remember that whole bar-code/vampire-glyph back-of-neck tattoo craze?) but indeed a chip is more practical. Use some of those RFID tags that are so loved by privacy nutt... advocates. Imaginage that. Every PC with an RFID-reader built-in. Every human with an RFID chip. You sit down at the PC, no need to login. TheCodeProject detects you, no more fake accounts for downloading. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                                        • S Shog9 0

                                          If you don't get pulled over, you're fine. If you do, you're fined. If you were careful (no speeding, etc.), you could probably get by quite a while without getting stopped. Of course, if someone else screwed up and caused a wreck, you'd be in a bad way. Also i seem to remember a fair number of checkpoints on the roads down towards Mexico... Regardless, you really need a license - it's your ID for banks, merchants, etc. above and beyond being proof of permission to drive.

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                                          He said he lives in LA (Los Angeles) and the conference is in SF (San Francisco). That means a drive north and the last time I was in that area, which was last year, there were no checkpoints. Actually, it's not too bad a bad drive - just a few hours, depending on your speed.

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