SourceSafe peeve
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Wow am I annoyed tonight, I needed to open a project that I put in sourcesafe so I could work on it from multiple computers seamlessly... And I just needed to change 1 line of code and run it to see how it would react. Didn't need to save it just wanted to see it. Oh wait I never checked it in on my laptop :doh: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
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Wow am I annoyed tonight, I needed to open a project that I put in sourcesafe so I could work on it from multiple computers seamlessly... And I just needed to change 1 line of code and run it to see how it would react. Didn't need to save it just wanted to see it. Oh wait I never checked it in on my laptop :doh: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
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Wow am I annoyed tonight, I needed to open a project that I put in sourcesafe so I could work on it from multiple computers seamlessly... And I just needed to change 1 line of code and run it to see how it would react. Didn't need to save it just wanted to see it. Oh wait I never checked it in on my laptop :doh: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
Matt Newman wrote: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? Im sure that's an option you can select. xacc-ide 0.0.15 now with C#, MSIL, C, XML, ASP.NET, Nemerle, MyXaml and HLSL coloring - Screenshots
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Matt Newman wrote: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? heaven forbid !!! I understand that vss is not everybdy's cup of tea, but please don't bash it for the things is does well OGR
ogrig wrote: heaven forbid !!! I understand that vss is not everybdy's cup of tea, but please don't bash it for the things is does well I like Visual Studio, I just don't think I should manually have to check-in a project. I would think it would be logical to do this upon exiting visual studio. I wasn't bashing anything. Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
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ogrig wrote: heaven forbid !!! I understand that vss is not everybdy's cup of tea, but please don't bash it for the things is does well I like Visual Studio, I just don't think I should manually have to check-in a project. I would think it would be logical to do this upon exiting visual studio. I wasn't bashing anything. Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
I have often enough made big changes to projects and thank god VS doesn`t check in when I close it. Sometimes changes need deep thorough testing before they should be checked in, especially if they are made in a sensitive part of the program. Nope, I think manual check in is safest of all... It's a human check that the code being committed is safe... If it^s not well, then at least the error lies with the user and not the software. Greetings, Davy
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Wow am I annoyed tonight, I needed to open a project that I put in sourcesafe so I could work on it from multiple computers seamlessly... And I just needed to change 1 line of code and run it to see how it would react. Didn't need to save it just wanted to see it. Oh wait I never checked it in on my laptop :doh: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
The REAL annoyance is, if VS is linked to VSS, why doesn't adding a file to the project add it to source safe ? I've been bitten by that more than once. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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The REAL annoyance is, if VS is linked to VSS, why doesn't adding a file to the project add it to source safe ? I've been bitten by that more than once. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Hi, I also need some help i think its somewhat related to this. I want to create an MFC application in it I want to use perl. Suppose there's a Dialog Box on it there r buttons when we click on them the code associated with that button should be executed. Now, if we click on the 1st button its create new project button the following code should get generated chomp ($proj = ); system ("ss Create $proj"); print("$proj Project has been Created Successfully.\n\n"); Above code first asks for the name of the project that has to be created. Then second line executes the system cmd & creates a project that the name u specified. ss Create is an system cmd for executing system cmd we use system keyword. And finally prints the msg Project_Name Project has been Created Successfully. This cmd creates a project in VSS. This script I created for CLI I.e cmd prompt. Now I want the same application to be executed using VC++. Plz. let me know as soon as possible.:)
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ogrig wrote: heaven forbid !!! I understand that vss is not everybdy's cup of tea, but please don't bash it for the things is does well I like Visual Studio, I just don't think I should manually have to check-in a project. I would think it would be logical to do this upon exiting visual studio. I wasn't bashing anything. Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
When I close Visual Studio, my code is seldom in a non-broken state. Rule of thumb: never commit "unfinished business". Have you considered using other less restrictive revision management systems? I like how CVS works (and many other systems) - files are never locked, and only changes are sent to the repository. Sure, there may be conflicts from time to time, but they're mostly very easy to resolve. -- Schni Schna Schnappi! Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp!
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ogrig wrote: heaven forbid !!! I understand that vss is not everybdy's cup of tea, but please don't bash it for the things is does well I like Visual Studio, I just don't think I should manually have to check-in a project. I would think it would be logical to do this upon exiting visual studio. I wasn't bashing anything. Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
I have to disagree wit hthat, automatic checkins can generate massive numbers of revisions even with a few developers plus a revision control system is not a substitute for thinking about you're doing. Yes, I'm working with revision control a lot just now :laugh: Elaine (revised fluffy tigress) The tigress is here :-D
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The REAL annoyance is, if VS is linked to VSS, why doesn't adding a file to the project add it to source safe ? I've been bitten by that more than once. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote: why doesn't adding a file to the project add it to source safe Because it could break compilation for other people. I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!
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ogrig wrote: heaven forbid !!! I understand that vss is not everybdy's cup of tea, but please don't bash it for the things is does well I like Visual Studio, I just don't think I should manually have to check-in a project. I would think it would be logical to do this upon exiting visual studio. I wasn't bashing anything. Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
As a long term SourceSafe admin I can tell you that a) Visual Studio can do this and b) it's such a bad idea that it's disabled by default. If you work in a team environment (say, 10 developers or more) you'll soon see why this is the case. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Hi, I also need some help i think its somewhat related to this. I want to create an MFC application in it I want to use perl. Suppose there's a Dialog Box on it there r buttons when we click on them the code associated with that button should be executed. Now, if we click on the 1st button its create new project button the following code should get generated chomp ($proj = ); system ("ss Create $proj"); print("$proj Project has been Created Successfully.\n\n"); Above code first asks for the name of the project that has to be created. Then second line executes the system cmd & creates a project that the name u specified. ss Create is an system cmd for executing system cmd we use system keyword. And finally prints the msg Project_Name Project has been Created Successfully. This cmd creates a project in VSS. This script I created for CLI I.e cmd prompt. Now I want the same application to be executed using VC++. Plz. let me know as soon as possible.:)
Ask in the forums. The lounge is for chilling and chatting. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Wow am I annoyed tonight, I needed to open a project that I put in sourcesafe so I could work on it from multiple computers seamlessly... And I just needed to change 1 line of code and run it to see how it would react. Didn't need to save it just wanted to see it. Oh wait I never checked it in on my laptop :doh: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
Matt Newman wrote: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? If it did I'd banish SourceSafe forever. Changes to the repository should NEVER be automatic. You need someone to blame for broken builds if only to have someone you can force to unbreak the builds. Seriously, your SourceSafe (or whatever source control system you use) repository is your IP - changes to it should be the result of conscious human decision; not the result of a random closing of the development toolset. Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]
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As a long term SourceSafe admin I can tell you that a) Visual Studio can do this and b) it's such a bad idea that it's disabled by default. If you work in a team environment (say, 10 developers or more) you'll soon see why this is the case. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Or 500 across three continents :sigh: It's Labelmania ! :rolleyes: The tigress is here :-D
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Matt Newman wrote: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? If it did I'd banish SourceSafe forever. Changes to the repository should NEVER be automatic. You need someone to blame for broken builds if only to have someone you can force to unbreak the builds. Seriously, your SourceSafe (or whatever source control system you use) repository is your IP - changes to it should be the result of conscious human decision; not the result of a random closing of the development toolset. Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]
Let's say you did turn this option on. Then, if you wanted to avoid checking something in overnight, you'd have to leave the development environment running. Now let's say Windows Update kicks in, installs some patches, and needs to reboot the computer. On rebooting, it quits VS, and on quitting Visual Studio, your changes, that weren't ready to check in, get checked in automatically. Oops! I have to quit VS often enough just because it's stopped working properly. I often have trouble with it not rebuilding properly on one of our solutions, particularly when changing between Debug and Release configurations. This is a Compact Framework solution. Another occasion I need to quit - and not check in changes - is when the environment simply stops communicating with the mobile device at the beginning of a debugging session. I certainly don't want to check in changes I haven't run through in the debugger yet! Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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Or 500 across three continents :sigh: It's Labelmania ! :rolleyes: The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: It's Labelmania ! At least labels are being used then... It could be worse! Gavin Greig "Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye." Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.
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ogrig wrote: heaven forbid !!! I understand that vss is not everybdy's cup of tea, but please don't bash it for the things is does well I like Visual Studio, I just don't think I should manually have to check-in a project. I would think it would be logical to do this upon exiting visual studio. I wasn't bashing anything. Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
I use VSS with .Net 2003. Make it where it does not make your files read only. that way you can save the file, it just won't be checked in also, if you do this, when you get latest version, make sure that you check the 'Don't get local copy' option so that it will not overwrite the saved copy. My articles www.stillwaterexpress.com BlackDice
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Wow am I annoyed tonight, I needed to open a project that I put in sourcesafe so I could work on it from multiple computers seamlessly... And I just needed to change 1 line of code and run it to see how it would react. Didn't need to save it just wanted to see it. Oh wait I never checked it in on my laptop :doh: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
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Wow am I annoyed tonight, I needed to open a project that I put in sourcesafe so I could work on it from multiple computers seamlessly... And I just needed to change 1 line of code and run it to see how it would react. Didn't need to save it just wanted to see it. Oh wait I never checked it in on my laptop :doh: Why can't closing Visual Studio check in projects ?!? Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
Nice Tag line.... :doh: Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots ------------------------------- Joan MomComputerGeek.com
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Christian Graus wrote: why doesn't adding a file to the project add it to source safe Because it could break compilation for other people. I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!
Daniel Turini wrote: Because it could break compilation for other people. Wrong. When I add the file, it should get added to sourcesafe, as an empty file ( the default that the IDE generates ), and then be checked out to me. Until I check in the project, other users won't even get/use the file, and it won't have any half baked code that could break the build, even if I checked in right away. As it stands, if I check in the project ( which gets checked out to add the file ), THEN other people's build breaks if I have not manually added the file. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++