Irony
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Altamont[^] Wind Farm Killing Thousands Of Migrating Birds Each Year. At a time when demand is rising for greener energy sources, the Altamont Pass has become one of the nation's leading producers of wind power, generating about 820 million kilowatt hours of pollution-free electricity annually -- enough to power 120,000 homes for a year. But the Altamont, where more than 5,000 windmills line the hilltops, has also become a death trap for thousands of migrating birds that get chopped up in fast-rotating turbine blades as they fly through or hunt for prey in this mountainous region between the San Francisco Bay area and the San Joaquin Valley. Not to mention destroying the beauty of the hillsides.[^] Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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Altamont[^] Wind Farm Killing Thousands Of Migrating Birds Each Year. At a time when demand is rising for greener energy sources, the Altamont Pass has become one of the nation's leading producers of wind power, generating about 820 million kilowatt hours of pollution-free electricity annually -- enough to power 120,000 homes for a year. But the Altamont, where more than 5,000 windmills line the hilltops, has also become a death trap for thousands of migrating birds that get chopped up in fast-rotating turbine blades as they fly through or hunt for prey in this mountainous region between the San Francisco Bay area and the San Joaquin Valley. Not to mention destroying the beauty of the hillsides.[^] Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote: Not to mention destroying the beauty of the hillsides.[^] For what those landowners get paid to host one of those things, I'd gladly do it.
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Actually I have to disagree. I think the windmills look beautiful and alien and when the sun is going down they really add to the view. As well as providing renewable energy.
fakefur wrote: As well as providing renewable energy. ...and bird carcasses. :sigh: Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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fakefur wrote: As well as providing renewable energy. ...and bird carcasses. :sigh: Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote: ...and bird carcasses. Fertilizer. Nutrients. It's like a giant food processor!
"Ideas are a dime a dozen. People who put them into action are priceless." - Unknown
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...like you as an American have any idea about irony. :-D Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
No, we don't. But I think it the height of satire when we Yanks call you Aussies "American Lite". *snicker* Most people are willing to pay more to be amused than to be educated--Robert C. Savage, Life Lessons Toasty0.com Ladder League (beta) My Grandkids
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fakefur wrote: As well as providing renewable energy. ...and bird carcasses. :sigh: Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote: ...and bird carcasses All part and parcel of our feed the poor program... Most people are willing to pay more to be amused than to be educated--Robert C. Savage, Life Lessons Toasty0.com Ladder League (beta) My Grandkids
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Altamont[^] Wind Farm Killing Thousands Of Migrating Birds Each Year. At a time when demand is rising for greener energy sources, the Altamont Pass has become one of the nation's leading producers of wind power, generating about 820 million kilowatt hours of pollution-free electricity annually -- enough to power 120,000 homes for a year. But the Altamont, where more than 5,000 windmills line the hilltops, has also become a death trap for thousands of migrating birds that get chopped up in fast-rotating turbine blades as they fly through or hunt for prey in this mountainous region between the San Francisco Bay area and the San Joaquin Valley. Not to mention destroying the beauty of the hillsides.[^] Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
OK, first off, *I* would have never thought a bird would just blindly fly into a spinning death trap like this ... obviously I know nothing about a birds ability to reason while inflight. However ... the people that operate said "Wind power station" know this is happening, and has been happening for some time now. I would have thought they would have installed some kind of bird deterrent, if for no other reason than to keep the windmills from being potentially damaged ... they aren't cheap. They also *had* to know that some animal rights group would eventually sue and/or raise cain about the situation, costing them millions in marketing and lawyer fees; or maybe I know nothing about this either ... In anycase, I'd like to say that I've purchased several small ultrasound devices for my home that seem to keep pests, including birds, away from my attic. They don't bother me, the kids or the dog ... I'm certain that there's an equal possible solution, just on a much larger scale, to this problem that won't cost the state millions; unlike the court costs and whatnot they're going to spend now ... But what do I know ...
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Altamont[^] Wind Farm Killing Thousands Of Migrating Birds Each Year. At a time when demand is rising for greener energy sources, the Altamont Pass has become one of the nation's leading producers of wind power, generating about 820 million kilowatt hours of pollution-free electricity annually -- enough to power 120,000 homes for a year. But the Altamont, where more than 5,000 windmills line the hilltops, has also become a death trap for thousands of migrating birds that get chopped up in fast-rotating turbine blades as they fly through or hunt for prey in this mountainous region between the San Francisco Bay area and the San Joaquin Valley. Not to mention destroying the beauty of the hillsides.[^] Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
I have to disagree. In Ireland we don't have any Nuclear Power plants and I doubt we ever will due to the ongoing fiasco with Sellafield Nuclear plant in the UK and also due to the fact that the Irish Sea is also the most radioactive sea in the world after lots of radioactive waste was dumped in it by those running the UK nuclear power plants. Anyway, almost all of our power comes from fossil fuel based power stations with a few hydro electric dams dotted here and there. The thing that pisses me off is that in Ireland there is almost always wind! Always... we have a few wind farms in Ireland (one out in the irish sea and a few on the west coast facing the Atlantic) and this is simply not enough. I personally think they look very nice and it is complete bullcrap that they make lots of noise. I was standing at the base of one one day when I was on a bike trip in Germany and there is barely any noise. Their footprint is an awful lot smaller then a CO2-producing, fossil-powered station and with the wind we get here it has been said in reports that we would have enough excess electricity to power a good portion of Wales. Sure, some birds will fly into them, some people won't like the look of them but to me pollution free power is a lot more important then somebody's perception of what looks nice and what doesn't. I'm sure pumping millions of tonnes of polution into the atmosphere is <sarcasm>ever so slightly</sarcasm> worse then polution free power generation. Now, if we could only somehow convert rain fall to electricity we'd be sorted and could supply the world with power. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, pre-order^ it today! Regular Expression Library builder^
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Altamont[^] Wind Farm Killing Thousands Of Migrating Birds Each Year. At a time when demand is rising for greener energy sources, the Altamont Pass has become one of the nation's leading producers of wind power, generating about 820 million kilowatt hours of pollution-free electricity annually -- enough to power 120,000 homes for a year. But the Altamont, where more than 5,000 windmills line the hilltops, has also become a death trap for thousands of migrating birds that get chopped up in fast-rotating turbine blades as they fly through or hunt for prey in this mountainous region between the San Francisco Bay area and the San Joaquin Valley. Not to mention destroying the beauty of the hillsides.[^] Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
Sounds like the perfect place to open a sandwich shop.
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Sounds like the perfect place to open a sandwich shop.
Tastes like chicken! X| Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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Tastes like chicken! X| Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
Sandwich shop disclaimer: sandwich contents may vary depending upon migration paths and/or time of year. :rolleyes:
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Altamont[^] Wind Farm Killing Thousands Of Migrating Birds Each Year. At a time when demand is rising for greener energy sources, the Altamont Pass has become one of the nation's leading producers of wind power, generating about 820 million kilowatt hours of pollution-free electricity annually -- enough to power 120,000 homes for a year. But the Altamont, where more than 5,000 windmills line the hilltops, has also become a death trap for thousands of migrating birds that get chopped up in fast-rotating turbine blades as they fly through or hunt for prey in this mountainous region between the San Francisco Bay area and the San Joaquin Valley. Not to mention destroying the beauty of the hillsides.[^] Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
And it makes it real scary to fly over tha pass in a paraglider (we call it Cuisinart Ridge) Steve T
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No, we don't. But I think it the height of satire when we Yanks call you Aussies "American Lite". *snicker* Most people are willing to pay more to be amused than to be educated--Robert C. Savage, Life Lessons Toasty0.com Ladder League (beta) My Grandkids
Toasty0 wrote: we Yanks call you Aussies "American Lite". I don't understand that. What is it supposed to mean?
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I have to disagree. In Ireland we don't have any Nuclear Power plants and I doubt we ever will due to the ongoing fiasco with Sellafield Nuclear plant in the UK and also due to the fact that the Irish Sea is also the most radioactive sea in the world after lots of radioactive waste was dumped in it by those running the UK nuclear power plants. Anyway, almost all of our power comes from fossil fuel based power stations with a few hydro electric dams dotted here and there. The thing that pisses me off is that in Ireland there is almost always wind! Always... we have a few wind farms in Ireland (one out in the irish sea and a few on the west coast facing the Atlantic) and this is simply not enough. I personally think they look very nice and it is complete bullcrap that they make lots of noise. I was standing at the base of one one day when I was on a bike trip in Germany and there is barely any noise. Their footprint is an awful lot smaller then a CO2-producing, fossil-powered station and with the wind we get here it has been said in reports that we would have enough excess electricity to power a good portion of Wales. Sure, some birds will fly into them, some people won't like the look of them but to me pollution free power is a lot more important then somebody's perception of what looks nice and what doesn't. I'm sure pumping millions of tonnes of polution into the atmosphere is <sarcasm>ever so slightly</sarcasm> worse then polution free power generation. Now, if we could only somehow convert rain fall to electricity we'd be sorted and could supply the world with power. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, pre-order^ it today! Regular Expression Library builder^
Brian Delahunty wrote: if we could only somehow convert rain fall to electricity we'd be sorted and could supply the world with power Isn't that what the dams are for? ;P
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Brian Delahunty wrote: if we could only somehow convert rain fall to electricity we'd be sorted and could supply the world with power Isn't that what the dams are for? ;P
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Smartass. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, pre-order^ it today! Regular Expression Library builder^
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Smartass. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, pre-order^ it today! Regular Expression Library builder^
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No, we don't. But I think it the height of satire when we Yanks call you Aussies "American Lite". *snicker* Most people are willing to pay more to be amused than to be educated--Robert C. Savage, Life Lessons Toasty0.com Ladder League (beta) My Grandkids
Toasty0 wrote: No, we don't. But I think it the height of satire when we Yanks call you Aussies "American Lite". Here we go again. It would be American Light, could you have a look at that spellchecker please. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Toasty0 wrote: No, we don't. But I think it the height of satire when we Yanks call you Aussies "American Lite". Here we go again. It would be American Light, could you have a look at that spellchecker please. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote: Here we go again. It would be American Light, could you have a look at that spellchecker please. And you call yourself a Bartender? http://www.american-store.nl/d1080_Miller_lite.jpg[^] ;P Most people are willing to pay more to be amused than to be educated--Robert C. Savage, Life Lessons Toasty0.com Ladder League (beta) My Grandkids
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OK, first off, *I* would have never thought a bird would just blindly fly into a spinning death trap like this ... obviously I know nothing about a birds ability to reason while inflight. However ... the people that operate said "Wind power station" know this is happening, and has been happening for some time now. I would have thought they would have installed some kind of bird deterrent, if for no other reason than to keep the windmills from being potentially damaged ... they aren't cheap. They also *had* to know that some animal rights group would eventually sue and/or raise cain about the situation, costing them millions in marketing and lawyer fees; or maybe I know nothing about this either ... In anycase, I'd like to say that I've purchased several small ultrasound devices for my home that seem to keep pests, including birds, away from my attic. They don't bother me, the kids or the dog ... I'm certain that there's an equal possible solution, just on a much larger scale, to this problem that won't cost the state millions; unlike the court costs and whatnot they're going to spend now ... But what do I know ...
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Fold with us|Development Blogging|viksoe.dk's siteDouglas Troy wrote: I've purchased several small ultrasound devices for my home that seem to keep pests, including birds, away What kind/make do you have? We tried those kind of devices years ago in our barns to keep the starlings out. Just gave the birds another ledge to build their nests on. I am curious because pest control is still a problem and the pests (mice especially) seem to avoid the traps for the most part and I really dislike poisons (to many possible unintended victims).
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Michael Martin wrote: Here we go again. It would be American Light, could you have a look at that spellchecker please. And you call yourself a Bartender? http://www.american-store.nl/d1080_Miller_lite.jpg[^] ;P Most people are willing to pay more to be amused than to be educated--Robert C. Savage, Life Lessons Toasty0.com Ladder League (beta) My Grandkids
Toasty0 wrote: _And you call yourself a Bartender? http://www.american-store.nl/d1080\_Miller\_lite.jpg\[^\]_ Who in their right mind would want that crap. Anyhow it's all Light Beer in them proper English speaking type countries. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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