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  • A Anonymous Pussy

    Try this. Instead of buying her a drink, send her a slender class of club soda full of ice cubes topped with slice of lemon. Scribble the following on a piece of paper "Wouldn't it be wonderful to live at a place where one stranger can say to another that you charm me and I would like to know who you are?" ...and for God sakes leave that pocket protector in the room.

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    Roger Wright
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    Anonymous Pussy wrote: for God sakes leave that pocket protector in the room. :laugh::laugh::laugh: Gads, I haven't seen one of those since college! Do they still make them? "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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      for my younger compatriots... DO NOT BUY WOMEN DRINKS. Period. It will not get you laid, nor will it garner you phone numbers (unless you believe that they all live at the same address with the phone number 911). I was reminded of this important lesson a few minutes ago, when I bought a cute (though rather fat) young lady a drink. She downed it without a glance or a word, despite the fact that I was sitting next to her. Mind you, I was not out to gain any bedside favors; she was cute, new to the area, and I wanted to make her feel welcome. A simple "Thanks" would have been sufficient. Not today, I guess... Whatever happenned to manners? It was a good reminder of an experiment I tried 15 years ago when I was travelling for a living. I decided one year to buy 100 drinks while I was away and record what resulted. After a long day in meetings (usually contract negotiations or design reviews) I stopped in my hotel bar for a few drinks. I watched and noted the most attractive (not always the prettiest) woman in the bar sitting alone - a number of traits attract me, and pretty isn't all that high on the list. I'd buy her a drink after a time, assuring myself first that she wasn't about to be joined by another man. I kept records of the results. One hundred drinks later, five said "Thank you." None asked me to join her. None invited me to her room. The only time I was invited to a room, in fact, was to protect a lady's honor from a rather ambitious Air Force Airman. But that's another story, for another night, and I'm quite sorry that story didn't have a different ending. Sometimes I really wish I could get rid of this conscience/honor thing that hangs around my neck...:sigh: The moral of the story, boys, is "save your money." Don't waste your time, or your cash buying her drinks. If your personality doesn't set her aflame, move on... more alcohol won't change things. "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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      I see something common to all your experiences... You. Maybe you come off in a way that elicits that kind of behavior. --- "This isn't right. This isn't even wrong." -Wolfgang Pauli (1900 - 1958), on a paper submitted by a physicist colleague

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        Anonymous Pussy wrote: for God sakes leave that pocket protector in the room. :laugh::laugh::laugh: Gads, I haven't seen one of those since college! Do they still make them? "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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        Brigg Thorp
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        The modern version or a geeky pocket protector is called a Blackberry! :) Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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          My experiment at the time was more about courtesy than anything else; picking up strangers in bars far from home is hardly a way to start a relationship. A simple "Thanks! That was nice of you." would have been pleasure enough. :) "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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          El Corazon
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          Roger Wright wrote: A simple "Thanks! That was nice of you." would have been pleasure enough. That is rare indeed. Even being married, buying her something only gets, "what did you do wrong?" _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            Priyank Bolia wrote: Best of Luck I'm not looking for any - just trying to pass on a small part of my accumulated wisdom to the youngsters here.;) "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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            Roger Wright wrote: just trying to pass on a small part of my accumulated wisdom to the youngsters here. ahhh, so I should have closed my ears... ;) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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              for my younger compatriots... DO NOT BUY WOMEN DRINKS. Period. It will not get you laid, nor will it garner you phone numbers (unless you believe that they all live at the same address with the phone number 911). I was reminded of this important lesson a few minutes ago, when I bought a cute (though rather fat) young lady a drink. She downed it without a glance or a word, despite the fact that I was sitting next to her. Mind you, I was not out to gain any bedside favors; she was cute, new to the area, and I wanted to make her feel welcome. A simple "Thanks" would have been sufficient. Not today, I guess... Whatever happenned to manners? It was a good reminder of an experiment I tried 15 years ago when I was travelling for a living. I decided one year to buy 100 drinks while I was away and record what resulted. After a long day in meetings (usually contract negotiations or design reviews) I stopped in my hotel bar for a few drinks. I watched and noted the most attractive (not always the prettiest) woman in the bar sitting alone - a number of traits attract me, and pretty isn't all that high on the list. I'd buy her a drink after a time, assuring myself first that she wasn't about to be joined by another man. I kept records of the results. One hundred drinks later, five said "Thank you." None asked me to join her. None invited me to her room. The only time I was invited to a room, in fact, was to protect a lady's honor from a rather ambitious Air Force Airman. But that's another story, for another night, and I'm quite sorry that story didn't have a different ending. Sometimes I really wish I could get rid of this conscience/honor thing that hangs around my neck...:sigh: The moral of the story, boys, is "save your money." Don't waste your time, or your cash buying her drinks. If your personality doesn't set her aflame, move on... more alcohol won't change things. "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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              Roger Wright wrote: The moral of the story, boys, is "save your money." Don't waste your time, or your cash buying her drinks. If your personality doesn't set her aflame, move on... more alcohol won't change things. Pretty good point but now you need to take the next step: 1. Be kind of a jerk, try to keep it humerous though. 2. Tell her to buy you a drink. 3. Go where you want with it from there. I've tried both ways, and with method 2 they'll be dragging you into the womens restroom at the bar. Buying women a drink just lets them know that you are a pushover. By the way, there is an interesting book by David DeAngelo called Double your dating.

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                It's honest which is a novelty and beats the usual ones which I won't discuss outside the soapbox. It is an introduction, no more. The tigress is here :-D

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                Anonymous Pussy
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                Merci Mademoiselle. Only a women can get what it means. FYI, the line is from Richard Bach's book "The bridge across forever". Presentation however is mine.

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                  for my younger compatriots... DO NOT BUY WOMEN DRINKS. Period. It will not get you laid, nor will it garner you phone numbers (unless you believe that they all live at the same address with the phone number 911). I was reminded of this important lesson a few minutes ago, when I bought a cute (though rather fat) young lady a drink. She downed it without a glance or a word, despite the fact that I was sitting next to her. Mind you, I was not out to gain any bedside favors; she was cute, new to the area, and I wanted to make her feel welcome. A simple "Thanks" would have been sufficient. Not today, I guess... Whatever happenned to manners? It was a good reminder of an experiment I tried 15 years ago when I was travelling for a living. I decided one year to buy 100 drinks while I was away and record what resulted. After a long day in meetings (usually contract negotiations or design reviews) I stopped in my hotel bar for a few drinks. I watched and noted the most attractive (not always the prettiest) woman in the bar sitting alone - a number of traits attract me, and pretty isn't all that high on the list. I'd buy her a drink after a time, assuring myself first that she wasn't about to be joined by another man. I kept records of the results. One hundred drinks later, five said "Thank you." None asked me to join her. None invited me to her room. The only time I was invited to a room, in fact, was to protect a lady's honor from a rather ambitious Air Force Airman. But that's another story, for another night, and I'm quite sorry that story didn't have a different ending. Sometimes I really wish I could get rid of this conscience/honor thing that hangs around my neck...:sigh: The moral of the story, boys, is "save your money." Don't waste your time, or your cash buying her drinks. If your personality doesn't set her aflame, move on... more alcohol won't change things. "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                  Personally I've always found it far more rewarding to have women buy *me* drinks, but cest la vie! ;P


                  "A preoccupation with the next world pretty clearly signals an inability to cope credibly with this one."

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                    for my younger compatriots... DO NOT BUY WOMEN DRINKS. Period. It will not get you laid, nor will it garner you phone numbers (unless you believe that they all live at the same address with the phone number 911). I was reminded of this important lesson a few minutes ago, when I bought a cute (though rather fat) young lady a drink. She downed it without a glance or a word, despite the fact that I was sitting next to her. Mind you, I was not out to gain any bedside favors; she was cute, new to the area, and I wanted to make her feel welcome. A simple "Thanks" would have been sufficient. Not today, I guess... Whatever happenned to manners? It was a good reminder of an experiment I tried 15 years ago when I was travelling for a living. I decided one year to buy 100 drinks while I was away and record what resulted. After a long day in meetings (usually contract negotiations or design reviews) I stopped in my hotel bar for a few drinks. I watched and noted the most attractive (not always the prettiest) woman in the bar sitting alone - a number of traits attract me, and pretty isn't all that high on the list. I'd buy her a drink after a time, assuring myself first that she wasn't about to be joined by another man. I kept records of the results. One hundred drinks later, five said "Thank you." None asked me to join her. None invited me to her room. The only time I was invited to a room, in fact, was to protect a lady's honor from a rather ambitious Air Force Airman. But that's another story, for another night, and I'm quite sorry that story didn't have a different ending. Sometimes I really wish I could get rid of this conscience/honor thing that hangs around my neck...:sigh: The moral of the story, boys, is "save your money." Don't waste your time, or your cash buying her drinks. If your personality doesn't set her aflame, move on... more alcohol won't change things. "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                    This is not true! I was recently in Norway and met 2 women who I plied with $9 beers. Its more fun with 3 !(as long as your the only male and the other two are women)

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                      Priyank Bolia wrote: Best of Luck I'm not looking for any - just trying to pass on a small part of my accumulated wisdom to the youngsters here.;) "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                      Roger Wright wrote: pass on a small part of my accumulated wisdom to the youngsters here. Why not write an article on "An introduction to flirt.net".:laugh: http://www.priyank.in/

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                        It's honest which is a novelty and beats the usual ones which I won't discuss outside the soapbox. It is an introduction, no more. The tigress is here :-D

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                        Trollslayer wrote: It's honest Riiiiight... :rolleyes:

                        My god, you're a genius! - Jörgen Sigvardsson, The Lounge

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                          Shog9 wrote: Now, if you can get her to buy you a drink... And risk the possibility of ending up mararied to her :rolleyes:

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                          Life is risky - that's half the fun. :)

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                            Trollslayer wrote: It's honest Riiiiight... :rolleyes:

                            My god, you're a genius! - Jörgen Sigvardsson, The Lounge

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                            Not if you'd sent it I admit ;P The tigress is here :-D

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                              Meh. Conversation just means more drinks to buy. Now, if you can get her to buy you a drink...

                              Ave Shog9, CP-addicti te salutant! - K(arl), The Soapbox

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                              Shog9 wrote: if you can get her to buy you a drink... I got one to buy me a bottle of champagne in a bar in Cheyenne once, but that's a long, sadly heroic tale. "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                              • I Ian Darling

                                Feynmann has an entertaining anecdote related to this in Surely You're Joking, Mr Feynmann[^] - a way of getting someone who does buy women drinks to buy you one too - although it does hinge on already knowing the woman in question. So I already learnt this lesson (and what you should probably do instead), and from a Nobel Prize winner no less :-D


                                Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                                Ian Darling wrote: I already learnt this lesson I did mention that this was 15 years ago, didn't I? I learn from my research, and I'm merely passing on the knowledge.;) "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                                  I see something common to all your experiences... You. Maybe you come off in a way that elicits that kind of behavior. --- "This isn't right. This isn't even wrong." -Wolfgang Pauli (1900 - 1958), on a paper submitted by a physicist colleague

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                                  Yeah, I have this tattoo on my forehead that says, "Best Friend." ;) "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                                    Roger Wright wrote: The moral of the story, boys, is "save your money." Don't waste your time, or your cash buying her drinks. If your personality doesn't set her aflame, move on... more alcohol won't change things. Pretty good point but now you need to take the next step: 1. Be kind of a jerk, try to keep it humerous though. 2. Tell her to buy you a drink. 3. Go where you want with it from there. I've tried both ways, and with method 2 they'll be dragging you into the womens restroom at the bar. Buying women a drink just lets them know that you are a pushover. By the way, there is an interesting book by David DeAngelo called Double your dating.

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                                    Dion wrote: Be kind of a jerk I had a friend in college who was quite unattractive (even more so than I) yet had spectacular success with women. His technique was to enter a party, scan the room, pick out the loveliest lady there, walk up and introduce himself by saying, "Hi, I'm Al. Wanna F^&%?" He got slapped only 50% of the time. The other 50% I leave to your imagination. Personally, I could never allow myself to be so disrespectful, nor would I want a partner who would respond positively to such treatment. But still, it's hard to argue with those results. :sigh: "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                                      This is not true! I was recently in Norway and met 2 women who I plied with $9 beers. Its more fun with 3 !(as long as your the only male and the other two are women)

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                                      If I was paying $9 a beer, I'd definitely demand better responses. That's obscene!:mad: "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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