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  • B Brigg Thorp

    Well, it looks like the IOC awarded the Canadian pairs skaters the gold medal. I guess the Russians got to keep theirs as well. Good for both of them...this was a messy situation. This got me thinking...how many gold medals are produced for the Olympics? I assume there is a fixed number of them, for situations when people tie for the gold. But, what if the IOC orders too many of them. What happens to the remaining gold medals? Just a thought. Brigg Thorp Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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    Yeah, but the French judge got canned. I'll bet John is gonna go off on this one, not that I blame him. The entire Salt Lake City thing has been bad karma from the time they bribed the commitie to select'em. This whole thing is like a replay of the Election 2000 - "recount! recount!" We need Al Gore in there somewhere now...


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      What a load of crap. If this is true, than even the little bit of respect I *did* have for the Olympics just evaporated. The entire concept has gotten entirely out of control. Did the Canadians deserve the Gold? Well, of course, they did. But handing out two gold medals makes the entire contest a waste of time on the part of everyone involved, including the spectators. There is no such thing as two contestants both being number one. Hell, why don't they just hand a gold medal to everyone who participated. It just shows what a bunch of political louts the IOC is comprised of. If the judges were wrong, then they were wrong, and the IOC should have had the balls to tell the Russians to give the damned medal back. "Thank you, thank you very much" Elvis.

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      They could only take the gold medals back if it was the winners' fault. Don't forget that the French judge was just 1 of 9. They removed her vote, and remaining votes split: 4 against 4. This is why both pairs were awarded golden medals. If you watched soccer, you must know that a lots of games raise complaints about judges (including corruption and conspiray theory). Even when FIFA (or UEFA in Europe) admit the judge's fault, they simply disqualify the judge, it is very very rare that the game is replayed. Figure skating is much more vulnerable to judges' opinion. If the Federation start taking back medals, it will be better to declare figure skating not a sport competition - just an art. BTW, there are more and more opinions for such decision. Vagif Abilov COM+/ATL/MFC Developer Oslo, Norway

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      • D David Wulff

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: and then brought the offending judge(s) out onto center ice and put a bullet in her/their pointed little head(s). I'm beginning to notice a disturbing trend in your messages. John, are you a psychopathicial maniac? John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Another thing - the russians KNEW they didn't deserve the gold, and you could tell by the way they were reacting on the podium. Hey, a though has just occurred to me. With all the different nationalities of the judges, maybe some of them thought that Russia was that bit of ice tacked on the top of North America, and that Canada was that other bit of ice over the pacific. John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Maybe the canadian athletes would have made a stronger statement if they had all just left the games en masse Who’d have noticed though? :laugh: ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves" - August Strindberg

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        David Wulff wrote: I'm beginning to notice a disturbing trend in your messages. John, are you a psychopathicial maniac? Nope, I'm just not afraid to suggest that we put someone out of our misery. My list of people we should shoot on the spot goes something like this: - Illegal aliens caught crossing our borders without the proper paerwork - People caught driving drunk - People caught raping (1st offense), murdering (1st offense), sexual child abuse (1st offense), armed robbery (first offense), - Religious fanatics that have the nerve to sell their hypocritical bullshit door-to-door. - People who don't use their damn turn signals. - The guy who tailgated me all the way home yesterday. - The people responsible for "Survivor", and all the copycat shows that seem to spring unrestrained from Hollywood's bunghole. - Anyone that thinks COM is easy to code. The list goes on, but I actually start naming individuals, so it's probably a good idea to stop where we are. :) I don't think I'm crazy at all, and all of my invisible friends seem to agree with me (except for Gary, but I think he's gay, so if I could, I'd shoot him too). "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        • C Chris Meech

          Anybody know if they had to give back the original siver ones, too? I bet they are worht more on E-Bay than the shiny new gold ones. :-D Chris

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          Yeah, but I'd make double-damn sure they didn't rub those medals on their bungholes before I bought them. :) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            What a load of crap. If this is true, than even the little bit of respect I *did* have for the Olympics just evaporated. The entire concept has gotten entirely out of control. Did the Canadians deserve the Gold? Well, of course, they did. But handing out two gold medals makes the entire contest a waste of time on the part of everyone involved, including the spectators. There is no such thing as two contestants both being number one. Hell, why don't they just hand a gold medal to everyone who participated. It just shows what a bunch of political louts the IOC is comprised of. If the judges were wrong, then they were wrong, and the IOC should have had the balls to tell the Russians to give the damned medal back. "Thank you, thank you very much" Elvis.

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            There have been times in the past when (for example) two downhill skiers tied with the same 2:26.44 time (again for example). The resolution of the timer is only hundreths of a second, so there is no way to determine who won. Also, they can't have them ski again because then you could blame any difference on exhaustion from the previous race, conditions, etc. Because of this, they have (a few times), given out dual gold medals and not given a bronze. This has ocurred with the silver as well. I'm not sure about the bronze. Brigg Thorp Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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            • V Vagif Abilov

              Please don't start another cold war here. Both Canadian and Russian skaters did well. None of them deserved this scandal, and they are not guilty for all this judgement crap. I think giving them both gold medals was a wise decision. How do you know that they KNEW they didn't deserve the gold? I don't think at this level of competition anybody goes into such feelings - "oh well, we didn't really deserve it". They just fight. Vagif Abilov COM+/ATL/MFC Developer Oslo, Norway

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              Vagif Abilov wrote: Please don't start another cold war here. Both Canadian and Russian skaters did well. None of them deserved this scandal, and they are not guilty for all this judgement crap. I never claimed that the russians were responsible, but anyone with havlf a brain and fairly normal vision could see that they were waiting for the other shoe to drop. Vagif Abilov wrote: I think giving them both gold medals was a wise decision. Be careful, you're about to be placed on my list. Vagif Abilov wrote: How do you know that they KNEW they didn't deserve the gold? Oh come the f*ck on - she was looking at the canadians like she wanted to tell them that she was just as flabbergasted as everyone else was, and the guy was making facial expressions like "i can't believe we got away with this". I still have the tape of the whole thing if you'd like to review it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                They should have made the russions and the canadians swap medals, and then brought the offending judge(s) out onto center ice and put a bullet in her/their pointed little head(s). Another thing - the russians KNEW they didn't deserve the gold, and you could tell by the way they were reacting on the podium. Maybe the canadian athletes would have made a stronger statement if they had all just left the games en masse. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: then brought the offending judge(s) out onto center ice and put a bullet in her/their pointed little head(s I'm in favor of making her play goalie, without pads, against the Canadian hockey team. Jon Sagara What about :bob:? Sonork ID: 100.9999 jonsagara

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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: then brought the offending judge(s) out onto center ice and put a bullet in her/their pointed little head(s I'm in favor of making her play goalie, without pads, against the Canadian hockey team. Jon Sagara What about :bob:? Sonork ID: 100.9999 jonsagara

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                  Nah, bullet in the head, and then leave the rotting corpse in the middle of the rink so that every time a skater passes it, the judges are reminded not to screw up anymore. New idea - at the NEXT Olympic Games, put her head on a pike and put it at the entrnce to the olympic village. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  • B Brigg Thorp

                    There have been times in the past when (for example) two downhill skiers tied with the same 2:26.44 time (again for example). The resolution of the timer is only hundreths of a second, so there is no way to determine who won. Also, they can't have them ski again because then you could blame any difference on exhaustion from the previous race, conditions, etc. Because of this, they have (a few times), given out dual gold medals and not given a bronze. This has ocurred with the silver as well. I'm not sure about the bronze. Brigg Thorp Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                    IMHO, any sport worthy of the name should have some means of breaking a tie. There should be a winner, dammit! (I even take exception in College football (American) when a coach ends the game with a tieing field goal. What a wuss. There should be a rule that in the event of a tie, the first team to reach that score is the winner. ) "Thank you, thank you very much" Elvis.

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                    • B Brigg Thorp

                      Well, it looks like the IOC awarded the Canadian pairs skaters the gold medal. I guess the Russians got to keep theirs as well. Good for both of them...this was a messy situation. This got me thinking...how many gold medals are produced for the Olympics? I assume there is a fixed number of them, for situations when people tie for the gold. But, what if the IOC orders too many of them. What happens to the remaining gold medals? Just a thought. Brigg Thorp Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                      Next thing you know, there'll be something on the news about one of the oldest judges died while having sex with one of the female skaters. Finally it will come out that Michelle Kwan was found crouching at the side of the bed, holding a whip and with one wrist hand-cufed to the deceased's ankle, muttering something in half english and half taikwanese about how she was THIS CLOSE to getting a gold medal when the old bastard croaked. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        IMHO, any sport worthy of the name should have some means of breaking a tie. There should be a winner, dammit! (I even take exception in College football (American) when a coach ends the game with a tieing field goal. What a wuss. There should be a rule that in the event of a tie, the first team to reach that score is the winner. ) "Thank you, thank you very much" Elvis.

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                        Any ties in an Olympic event should be settled with automatic weapons. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Next thing you know, there'll be something on the news about one of the oldest judges died while having sex with one of the female skaters. Finally it will come out that Michelle Kwan was found crouching at the side of the bed, holding a whip and with one wrist hand-cufed to the deceased's ankle, muttering something in half english and half taikwanese about how she was THIS CLOSE to getting a gold medal when the old bastard croaked. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Are you always this offensive? Sonorked as well: 100.13197 jorgen

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                            Are you always this offensive? Sonorked as well: 100.13197 jorgen

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                            No. Sometimes I include farm animals in my stories. Besides that, topics fall of the visible end of the list so fast that you have to take every opportunity to make an impression. I can tell that you want to join my fan club (that would be, like, four or five people), so I guess that means I have to set up a web site for it. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Any ties in an Olympic event should be settled with automatic weapons. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Any ties in an Olympic event should be settled with automatic weapons. That would be too quick. I think broadswords and battle axes would be much more entertaining and more in keeping with the Olympic spirit of the original Greeks. "Thank you, thank you very much" Elvis.

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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Any ties in an Olympic event should be settled with automatic weapons. That would be too quick. I think broadswords and battle axes would be much more entertaining and more in keeping with the Olympic spirit of the original Greeks. "Thank you, thank you very much" Elvis.

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                                Okay, I can hang with that, but only if we also have archers firing onto the ice from the cheap seats, too. Goats. (obligatory offensive reference to farm animals) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  David Wulff wrote: I'm beginning to notice a disturbing trend in your messages. John, are you a psychopathicial maniac? Nope, I'm just not afraid to suggest that we put someone out of our misery. My list of people we should shoot on the spot goes something like this: - Illegal aliens caught crossing our borders without the proper paerwork - People caught driving drunk - People caught raping (1st offense), murdering (1st offense), sexual child abuse (1st offense), armed robbery (first offense), - Religious fanatics that have the nerve to sell their hypocritical bullshit door-to-door. - People who don't use their damn turn signals. - The guy who tailgated me all the way home yesterday. - The people responsible for "Survivor", and all the copycat shows that seem to spring unrestrained from Hollywood's bunghole. - Anyone that thinks COM is easy to code. The list goes on, but I actually start naming individuals, so it's probably a good idea to stop where we are. :) I don't think I'm crazy at all, and all of my invisible friends seem to agree with me (except for Gary, but I think he's gay, so if I could, I'd shoot him too). "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  OMG!!! It's harsh but at the same time you're kinda right. Why don't we add this to your list: - People on welfare when they could work (lazy SOBs). I wouldn't kill them, but at least don't give 'em money for beer and cigarettes! Give' em food stamps for milk and bread. And they'd have to work too (pick up garbage in the streets, etc...) Anyway, I'm getting off topic here, but you and I connect on so many ways! ;) --------------- http://www.edovia.com

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                                    Yeah, but I'd make double-damn sure they didn't rub those medals on their bungholes before I bought them. :) "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Man... You are a little odd did you know that? Rubbing Silver Medals with your bung hole eh? What the hell prompted you to say that?:confused:

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                                      OMG!!! It's harsh but at the same time you're kinda right. Why don't we add this to your list: - People on welfare when they could work (lazy SOBs). I wouldn't kill them, but at least don't give 'em money for beer and cigarettes! Give' em food stamps for milk and bread. And they'd have to work too (pick up garbage in the streets, etc...) Anyway, I'm getting off topic here, but you and I connect on so many ways! ;) --------------- http://www.edovia.com

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                                      Nope, if they're not contributing and productive members of society, they are obsolete, and are therefore on thie list of those to be terminated. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        Nope, if they're not contributing and productive members of society, they are obsolete, and are therefore on thie list of those to be terminated. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        Just by curiosity, are you a NRA member? ;) --------------- http://www.edovia.com

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                                          Just by curiosity, are you a NRA member? ;) --------------- http://www.edovia.com

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                                          No, those little Shielas over at the NRA think I'm "too volatile". BTW, they're on my list, too. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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