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  • D David Wulff

    The problem witrh patches is that users need to install them. I was horrified to learn that out of my friends, none had installed any security updates from Microsoft. None. :omg: ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk Sonork ID: 100.9977 Dave Contents of my clipboard: Barclays Visa Connect - 4936-3503-2 -- sh*t, I'd better edit the rest out...

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    Uwe Keim
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    How many friends are this? 1, 2 or 10, 20? and how many of them have a computer? :-) A statistics with just 1, 2 measurements is not _that_ exact. -- See me: www.magerquark.de

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    • D David Wulff

      The problem witrh patches is that users need to install them. I was horrified to learn that out of my friends, none had installed any security updates from Microsoft. None. :omg: ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk Sonork ID: 100.9977 Dave Contents of my clipboard: Barclays Visa Connect - 4936-3503-2 -- sh*t, I'd better edit the rest out...

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      Simon Walton
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      I only bother downloading updates for IE etc. I've got w2k, and i'm buggered if i'm downloading that security rollup package they released a few weeks back. Why don't they just call it "The IIS f**k-up fixer package". I just know the installer will detect IIS, and think "ah, he must host a website from here. Ok, download that 900MB patch". Obviously the installer won't think, but you know what I mean. Simon "The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know" - Colin Davies Sonork ID 100.10024

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      • D David Wulff

        The problem witrh patches is that users need to install them. I was horrified to learn that out of my friends, none had installed any security updates from Microsoft. None. :omg: ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk Sonork ID: 100.9977 Dave Contents of my clipboard: Barclays Visa Connect - 4936-3503-2 -- sh*t, I'd better edit the rest out...

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        Chris Maunder
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        You're right. Eventually though most people will move up to newer versions. I guess I'm saying that Nimda will only be with us for, oh, another 2-3 years. cheers, Chris Maunder

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        • S Simon Walton

          Didn't you experience an MSN Messenger security vulnerability first-hand a while ago Chris? I remember you posted about it. Some bloke butted into your conversation. Simon It's one for you, nineteen for me Sonork ID 100.10024

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          Chris Maunder
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          Yeah - but it didn't seem like a deliberate invasion, more an accidental crossing of wires. ie. SNAFU. cheers, Chris Maunder

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            I only bother downloading updates for IE etc. I've got w2k, and i'm buggered if i'm downloading that security rollup package they released a few weeks back. Why don't they just call it "The IIS f**k-up fixer package". I just know the installer will detect IIS, and think "ah, he must host a website from here. Ok, download that 900MB patch". Obviously the installer won't think, but you know what I mean. Simon "The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know" - Colin Davies Sonork ID 100.10024

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            Chris Maunder
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            It's not that bad Simon, really. Just download the patch - it won't hurt at all. You'll feel a lot better. Come - join us brother. Join us... cheers, Chris Maunder

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            • C Chris Maunder

              It's not that bad Simon, really. Just download the patch - it won't hurt at all. You'll feel a lot better. Come - join us brother. Join us... cheers, Chris Maunder

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              Simon Walton
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              No, I refuse. Download, burn, and mail the CD to me, Chris. Just put "Simon, Wales, UK" on the envelope. It's a small country, so it'll reach me just fine. Simon "The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know" - Colin Davies Sonork ID 100.10024

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                No, I refuse. Download, burn, and mail the CD to me, Chris. Just put "Simon, Wales, UK" on the envelope. It's a small country, so it'll reach me just fine. Simon "The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know" - Colin Davies Sonork ID 100.10024

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                Chris Maunder
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                You will be assimilated. You can run, but you cannot hide. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I'm running IE6 on W2K and have installed all the patches MS have released (and not touched any of the default settings) and it doesn't work (pops up a message saying I'm patched against the vulnerability) Clearly MS dropped the ball when it comes to security so let's just hope that the latest flurry of patches and new focus on security will finally bring an end to stuff like this. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  alex barylski
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                  Hey Chris...I'm running IE 5.5 so I don't know if this security patch applies to me. However it was certainly nice to know, which I wouldn't had it not been for codeproject. In saying so, have you ever considered adding a tech news section, specifically geared towards such hot topics? Perhaps this ins't the intended purpose of this site? Just a suggestion. Have a day! "An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes in his or her field" - Niels Bohr

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                    No, I refuse. Download, burn, and mail the CD to me, Chris. Just put "Simon, Wales, UK" on the envelope. It's a small country, so it'll reach me just fine. Simon "The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know" - Colin Davies Sonork ID 100.10024

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                    ColinDavies
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                    Simon Please GET OUT OF THE HOUSE. RUN DON't LOOK BACK. Regardz Colin J Davies

                    Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                    If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t P J Arends 0 = ( ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) + (x-1)^2) * ( (x-1)^2 + ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) ) - x^4 x != 0 0 = sqrt( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) - 5

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                    • A alex barylski

                      Hey Chris...I'm running IE 5.5 so I don't know if this security patch applies to me. However it was certainly nice to know, which I wouldn't had it not been for codeproject. In saying so, have you ever considered adding a tech news section, specifically geared towards such hot topics? Perhaps this ins't the intended purpose of this site? Just a suggestion. Have a day! "An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes in his or her field" - Niels Bohr

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                      ColinDavies
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                      HockeyDude wrote: Just a suggestion. Suggestions should be suggested in the suggestion forum, because they can be forgotten there a lot easier. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

                      Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                      If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t P J Arends 0 = ( ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) + (x-1)^2) * ( (x-1)^2 + ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) ) - x^4 x != 0 0 = sqrt( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) - 5

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                      • C ColinDavies

                        Simon Please GET OUT OF THE HOUSE. RUN DON't LOOK BACK. Regardz Colin J Davies

                        Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                        If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t P J Arends 0 = ( ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) + (x-1)^2) * ( (x-1)^2 + ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) ) - x^4 x != 0 0 = sqrt( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) - 5

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                        Simon Walton
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                        Colin Davies wrote: Please GET OUT OF THE HOUSE. RUN DON't LOOK BACK. Nah, can't be assed. Simon "The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know" - Colin Davies Sonork ID 100.10024

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          You will be assimilated. You can run, but you cannot hide. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                          Daniel Ferguson
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                          Hmm.. got me to thinking .. Billg is kinda like Borg.... ;P "Why kill time, when you can kill yourself?" - Cabaret Voltaire

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                            How many friends are this? 1, 2 or 10, 20? and how many of them have a computer? :-) A statistics with just 1, 2 measurements is not _that_ exact. -- See me: www.magerquark.de

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                            David Wulff
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                            Uwe Keim wrote: How many friends are this? 1, 2 or 10, 20? Well let's see.... I have two friends, and none of them have computers.... No wait, there's george, and bob, and rachel the girl who lives in my speakers.... dum de dum de dum de dum... the men in white coats won't catch me! Anyway, we are talking about three people with computers here. ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk Sonork ID: 100.9977 Dave Contents of my clipboard: Barclays Visa Connect - 4936-3503-2 -- sh*t, I'd better edit the rest out...

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                            • A alex barylski

                              Hey Chris...I'm running IE 5.5 so I don't know if this security patch applies to me. However it was certainly nice to know, which I wouldn't had it not been for codeproject. In saying so, have you ever considered adding a tech news section, specifically geared towards such hot topics? Perhaps this ins't the intended purpose of this site? Just a suggestion. Have a day! "An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes in his or her field" - Niels Bohr

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                              Chris Maunder
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                              HockeyDude wrote: Perhaps this ins't the intended purpose of this site? No - we are mainly here to confuse and befuddle. There is a tech news section at the bottom right of the homepage but it's not stored (it's just a feed). I guess if this stuff was saved and organised for general browsing then that would be more helpful. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              • C ColinDavies

                                HockeyDude wrote: Just a suggestion. Suggestions should be suggested in the suggestion forum, because they can be forgotten there a lot easier. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

                                Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                                If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t P J Arends 0 = ( ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) + (x-1)^2) * ( (x-1)^2 + ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) ) - x^4 x != 0 0 = sqrt( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) - 5

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                                alex barylski
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                                This is true, but I seen Chris posted a message and I figured maybe my suggestion would have more impact because it would be directly related to the thread. "An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes in his or her field" - Niels Bohr

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  HockeyDude wrote: Perhaps this ins't the intended purpose of this site? No - we are mainly here to confuse and befuddle. There is a tech news section at the bottom right of the homepage but it's not stored (it's just a feed). I guess if this stuff was saved and organised for general browsing then that would be more helpful. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                  alex barylski
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                                  I never noticed the tech section before. I just checked out the DelOtto Systems link...It's not working. :) "An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes in his or her field" - Niels Bohr

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                                  • A alex barylski

                                    This is true, but I seen Chris posted a message and I figured maybe my suggestion would have more impact because it would be directly related to the thread. "An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes in his or her field" - Niels Bohr

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                                    ColinDavies
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                                    HockeyDude wrote: I figured maybe my suggestion would have more impact because it would be directly related to the thread. "figured" just like your skaters did huh ! :-) They Figured if they skated well they would win a gold. You Canadians should learn that Logic is dangerous stuff to play with, it obviously doesn't work with a high chill factor. If you post a suggestion here in the Lounge, Chris will try his hardest to see it is never implimented. He's a typical Australian. Regardz Colin J Davies

                                    Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                                    If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t P J Arends 0 = ( ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) + (x-1)^2) * ( (x-1)^2 + ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) ) - x^4 x != 0 0 = sqrt( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) - 5

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                                    • G G Suresh

                                      http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24004.html Look at: http://tom.me.uk/msn/demo.html And http://www.osioniusx.com/ I fixed most problems tweaking my Proxomitron ruleset (http://www.proxomitron.org). But the stuff that can be done really shocks me. And all it takes is some simple script :omg: Regards, Suresh

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                                      seanix99
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                                      Don't go there, it have a virus on this page!!!!!!!!!!!! there the message i have from my norton entreprise antivirus: Scan type: Realtime Protection Scan Event: Virus Found! Virus name: JS.Menger.Worm File: C:\Documents and Settings\Sylvain\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\A5CVILI5\demo[1].htm Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Sylvain\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\A5CVILI5 Computer: DEVNOTEBOOK User: Sylvain Action taken: Clean failed : Delete failed : Access denied Date found: Sat Feb 16 20:51:50 2002

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                                        http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24004.html Look at: http://tom.me.uk/msn/demo.html And http://www.osioniusx.com/ I fixed most problems tweaking my Proxomitron ruleset (http://www.proxomitron.org). But the stuff that can be done really shocks me. And all it takes is some simple script :omg: Regards, Suresh

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                                        Atul Dharne
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                                        :omg: So never use an IM..It is better to use Sonork or any other IM which is not much used / abused. But IM's were always insecure due to their inherent model. See the number of exploits which can be done on ICQ. As for IE / ActiveX .. have to patch up... Thanks.. Atul Sonork 100.13714 netdiva

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                                          HockeyDude wrote: I figured maybe my suggestion would have more impact because it would be directly related to the thread. "figured" just like your skaters did huh ! :-) They Figured if they skated well they would win a gold. You Canadians should learn that Logic is dangerous stuff to play with, it obviously doesn't work with a high chill factor. If you post a suggestion here in the Lounge, Chris will try his hardest to see it is never implimented. He's a typical Australian. Regardz Colin J Davies

                                          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                                          If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t P J Arends 0 = ( ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) + (x-1)^2) * ( (x-1)^2 + ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) ) - x^4 x != 0 0 = sqrt( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) - 5

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                                          alex barylski
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                                          Colin Davies wrote: "figured" just like your skaters did huh ! When you undeniably have the worlds greatest team your country and other countries look forward to your game. Thats alot of pressure. Besides history repeats itself...give it a while...we'll come back. Every empire will fall eventually. Microsoft is next!!! The international olympic feds or whatever they are wouldn't let us play pro, when we had all our GOD players in their prime. Gretzky, Lemieux, Roy...these guys are legends now!! Lemieux is old and has rebounded from Cancer(Hodkins disease) and crazy injuries. the other 2 aren't even playing this year. Yeah Canada should have won in Nagano...and they should/might win this year...if not...give it a while...guys like Gretz, Super Mario...they only happen once every so often...kinda Ironic in the ealry 80's to mid 90's was when Canada seemed to produce un-natural talent!!! As far as Canada not beating Sweden...wait...we'll see what happend with Germany...if they loose that it's all over...if they win...it'll be good experience on Oly ice and good ego boost... Have faith my friend!!! "An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes in his or her field" - Niels Bohr

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