C# vs C++ arguments don't hold for C# vs VB.NET
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Chris Maunder wrote: You've never seen the movie Fight Club? Hmmm. I fail to see why this should be a surprise to you. Jon Sagara seemed quite shocked by this as well. Yes I am guilty regarding that. I have not watched that movie yet :-) I even went to that link Jon posted but it gave me a page not found error when I clicked on a link that said quarter page quick time. I didnt dare to click the full page quick time link. Now can someone kindly tell me what this movie is all about an dwhy it puzzles people that I havent seen it? Is it about a C++ programmer who is tormented by his step-mother who forces him to use VB? If so, I better skip it. I am a sensitive guy ;-) Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Please don't be shocked by this, but I haven't seen it either. Nor do I plan to. I liked Shrek.
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Not all working developers chose the tools they use. Sometimes you have to think of things from the employers perspective. Is a C++ developer most costly/more difficult to replace than a VB developer? I think most would say yes. My company won't let me use C++ because if I left no one else on the team has the skillset to take over or maintain my code. But if your company is moving to .NET, as VB developers you may as well just switch to C#. The jump from VB to VB.NET is roughly the same as the jump from VB to C#. C# has the ability to write unsafe code, overload operators, and the syntax for writing OO code seems cleaner in C# than VB. And if want block comments in classic ASP you can use JScript. Andy Gaskell, MCSD
AndyG wrote: C# has the ability to write unsafe code Now there's a handy feature!
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Now can someone kindly tell me what this movie is all about an dwhy it puzzles people that I havent seen it? Is Nish, don't panic I don't believe I ahve seen it also. No panic needed. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
28 th Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr# Segmentation violation -- Core dumped
then why are you still on-line??? go see it, immediately! (it's good) -c
Smaller Animals Software, Inc. You're the icing - on the cake - on the table - at my wake. Modest Mouse
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Hehe, I think they could get more than a couple of bars of soap out of me. :laugh: Good scene that, at the liposuction clinic X|
Bruce Duncan - Digital Delirium
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then why are you still on-line??? go see it, immediately! (it's good) -c
Smaller Animals Software, Inc. You're the icing - on the cake - on the table - at my wake. Modest Mouse
Chris Losinger wrote: then why are you still on-line??? go see it, immediately! (it's good) Ok Ok, I'll have a look for it at my Local video shop ASAP, Happy now ! It's morning here and I should be working. :-) Satisfied now ! Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
Most people should stick to calculators, Isaac Sasson 28 th Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr# Segmentation violation -- Core dumped
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Roger W. VB People? I'm indifferent - equally mediocre in lots of languages - I have no preference at all which language I write bugs in. Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Roger and Tweety seem totally unaware that C# exists Hmmm... I see on my bookshelf "C# Essentials" by Albahari, Drayton, and Merrill, which I purchased out of the $2 bin last week and read. Well worth the investment; I am whelmed. I haven't figured out any way to ever get the compiler, so why care about the language? It will take another year to pay off VS6, which I've had only a few months,so VS.NET isn't on the horizon, and MSDN Pro is completely out of reach.
Roger Wright wrote: I haven't figured out any way to ever get the compiler You can download the SDK which will give you everything you need to create C# and VB.NET applications. Of course the IDE is a nice thing to have; but thats what you'll be paying for. James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
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Roger Wright wrote: I haven't figured out any way to ever get the compiler You can download the SDK which will give you everything you need to create C# and VB.NET applications. Of course the IDE is a nice thing to have; but thats what you'll be paying for. James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
Is that what's in that 150MB+ monster I downloaded last week? I've only just skimmed it so far. Thanks! James T. Johnson wrote: "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972 Was it really that long ago? I still have the album, er... CD.:cool:
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Jason Gerard wrote: Becuase I, as a VB6 programmer, would much rather write: if(something){ // do something} than write:IF something THEN 'do somethingEND IF Huh? Then why didnt you jump to C++? C++ existed for so long and you wait till now? Jason Gerard wrote: The ability to use block comments alone is enough of a reason for me to switch Yeah, that sucks big-time. I find that a problem when I do ASP. Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Huh? Then why didnt you jump to C++? C++ existed for so long and you wait till now? I really dont like this argument. I program in VB6 regularly (am doing it right now in fact) and, quite frankly, I dont want to use C++. I dont see why I should. The application I am working on now runs fast, I am using API calls to do some complex drawing, I am using COM to make it an extensible program, I am using Access to store data. Why would I do it in C++? VB allows me to do what I want to do easily, and its fun. -- David Wengier
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: and yet they suffer in silence. you're listening in the wrong place. VB programmers are very upset about the changes (or, they were a year ago when the changes were announced). Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: So can someone give me 3 good reasons [playing safe here ] why any VB 6 programmer should try C# instead of VB.NET? 1. since MS has submitted C# to a standards body, there's less of a chance they'll do to C# the kinds of things they can to VB: change fundamental aspects of the language at will. though i suppose, given MS's record on such things, they'll probably extend the C# language whenever it suits their marketing needs. 2. it has "C" in the name. if they learn C#, they can pretend they're playing with the big boys, C and C++. 3. there is no Fight Club -c
Smaller Animals Software, Inc. You're the icing - on the cake - on the table - at my wake. Modest Mouse
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Haven't you ever seen the movie Fight Club? The number one rule of Fight Club is There Is No Fight Club. (If I remember correctly) Jon Sagara What about :bob:? Sonork ID: 100.9999 jonsagara
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