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  • G Gregory Smith

    A long time ago, a killer could just walk into a store, and buy a horrible automatic gun, walk out, and begin to kill children. And, consequently, many lives were lost. Then, people who wanted to own sporting firearms were made to fill out pages of worthwile papers, and get background checks, when buying firearms. That has cut down on crime, and saved the precious lives of so many children. Then, there was the assault weapons ban, which further cut down on crime, until armed assault was almost nonexistent. The day that sensible law went out of affect, killers were lined up at the stores of wreckless gun dealers, eager to get their insturments of death so they could kill women and children again. Considering the current problem with viruses, shouldn't programmers have to fill out forms saying that they are not going to write viruses, and get background checks to get their development software? And, shouldn't streamlined development programs which show the method's declarations when typing, and attempt to finish your lines of code be banned, just as guns with rapid fire magazines and pistol grip stocks were? I think that this would greatly reduce the virus problem.

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    Surely you aren't serious. Did you really register for this site just to post this one post? Are you even a programmer? First off, you're not really comparing writing a computer virus to killing kids, are you? That's a real leap. There's quite a difference between destruction of property and loss of life. And comparing an IDE to an automatic weapon is laughable. Second, you think that banning IDEs is going to help? I'm sure that once I got used to it, I could use notepad just as effectively as I could use Visual Studio. (Not as efficiently, but that's another matter.) And you're saying we should restrict access to compilers to people who have had background checks? What exactly is that background check going to turn up? I wouldn't suspect that most virus writers have had a long history of criminal behavior. I know that I would, for sure, pass a background check right now, and then I could turn around and compile some uber-virus tomorrow and wipe out half the internet. (Exaggerating, of course, but you get my point.) And what about Open Source IDEs and OSes? Or are we supposed to get background checks to download free software now? This is, perhaps, the most ridiculous thing I've heard in quite a while. You get a 1.


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    • G Gregory Smith

      A long time ago, a killer could just walk into a store, and buy a horrible automatic gun, walk out, and begin to kill children. And, consequently, many lives were lost. Then, people who wanted to own sporting firearms were made to fill out pages of worthwile papers, and get background checks, when buying firearms. That has cut down on crime, and saved the precious lives of so many children. Then, there was the assault weapons ban, which further cut down on crime, until armed assault was almost nonexistent. The day that sensible law went out of affect, killers were lined up at the stores of wreckless gun dealers, eager to get their insturments of death so they could kill women and children again. Considering the current problem with viruses, shouldn't programmers have to fill out forms saying that they are not going to write viruses, and get background checks to get their development software? And, shouldn't streamlined development programs which show the method's declarations when typing, and attempt to finish your lines of code be banned, just as guns with rapid fire magazines and pistol grip stocks were? I think that this would greatly reduce the virus problem.

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      hmmm....... Strange! bart

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      • G Gregory Smith

        A long time ago, a killer could just walk into a store, and buy a horrible automatic gun, walk out, and begin to kill children. And, consequently, many lives were lost. Then, people who wanted to own sporting firearms were made to fill out pages of worthwile papers, and get background checks, when buying firearms. That has cut down on crime, and saved the precious lives of so many children. Then, there was the assault weapons ban, which further cut down on crime, until armed assault was almost nonexistent. The day that sensible law went out of affect, killers were lined up at the stores of wreckless gun dealers, eager to get their insturments of death so they could kill women and children again. Considering the current problem with viruses, shouldn't programmers have to fill out forms saying that they are not going to write viruses, and get background checks to get their development software? And, shouldn't streamlined development programs which show the method's declarations when typing, and attempt to finish your lines of code be banned, just as guns with rapid fire magazines and pistol grip stocks were? I think that this would greatly reduce the virus problem.

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        code frog 0
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        Hey Chris, what's the IP of Sarah Brady? Is Pumpkinhead at it again?

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        -- modified at 20:51 Friday 21st October, 2005

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        • G Gregory Smith

          A long time ago, a killer could just walk into a store, and buy a horrible automatic gun, walk out, and begin to kill children. And, consequently, many lives were lost. Then, people who wanted to own sporting firearms were made to fill out pages of worthwile papers, and get background checks, when buying firearms. That has cut down on crime, and saved the precious lives of so many children. Then, there was the assault weapons ban, which further cut down on crime, until armed assault was almost nonexistent. The day that sensible law went out of affect, killers were lined up at the stores of wreckless gun dealers, eager to get their insturments of death so they could kill women and children again. Considering the current problem with viruses, shouldn't programmers have to fill out forms saying that they are not going to write viruses, and get background checks to get their development software? And, shouldn't streamlined development programs which show the method's declarations when typing, and attempt to finish your lines of code be banned, just as guns with rapid fire magazines and pistol grip stocks were? I think that this would greatly reduce the virus problem.

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          l a u r e n
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          whats the weather like on ur planet? :wtf:


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          • G Gregory Smith

            A long time ago, a killer could just walk into a store, and buy a horrible automatic gun, walk out, and begin to kill children. And, consequently, many lives were lost. Then, people who wanted to own sporting firearms were made to fill out pages of worthwile papers, and get background checks, when buying firearms. That has cut down on crime, and saved the precious lives of so many children. Then, there was the assault weapons ban, which further cut down on crime, until armed assault was almost nonexistent. The day that sensible law went out of affect, killers were lined up at the stores of wreckless gun dealers, eager to get their insturments of death so they could kill women and children again. Considering the current problem with viruses, shouldn't programmers have to fill out forms saying that they are not going to write viruses, and get background checks to get their development software? And, shouldn't streamlined development programs which show the method's declarations when typing, and attempt to finish your lines of code be banned, just as guns with rapid fire magazines and pistol grip stocks were? I think that this would greatly reduce the virus problem.

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            "Sarah Brady" was a White House press secretary and gun activist for whom the "Brady Law" was named. This is obviously an NRA troll who is peeved that he can't easily buy an AK47 anymore to shoot squirrels and coke-cans in the back yard so he is fishing for our sympathy by trying to make us realize how we would suffer if the same unfair restrictions applied to our dangerous dev tools. Steve T

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            • F FlyingTinman

              "Sarah Brady" was a White House press secretary and gun activist for whom the "Brady Law" was named. This is obviously an NRA troll who is peeved that he can't easily buy an AK47 anymore to shoot squirrels and coke-cans in the back yard so he is fishing for our sympathy by trying to make us realize how we would suffer if the same unfair restrictions applied to our dangerous dev tools. Steve T

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              code frog 0
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              I think it's pumpkinhead being stupid again.

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                I think it's pumpkinhead being stupid again.

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                Could be, but whoever it is it seems like he has an agenda. Steve T

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                • G Gregory Smith

                  A long time ago, a killer could just walk into a store, and buy a horrible automatic gun, walk out, and begin to kill children. And, consequently, many lives were lost. Then, people who wanted to own sporting firearms were made to fill out pages of worthwile papers, and get background checks, when buying firearms. That has cut down on crime, and saved the precious lives of so many children. Then, there was the assault weapons ban, which further cut down on crime, until armed assault was almost nonexistent. The day that sensible law went out of affect, killers were lined up at the stores of wreckless gun dealers, eager to get their insturments of death so they could kill women and children again. Considering the current problem with viruses, shouldn't programmers have to fill out forms saying that they are not going to write viruses, and get background checks to get their development software? And, shouldn't streamlined development programs which show the method's declarations when typing, and attempt to finish your lines of code be banned, just as guns with rapid fire magazines and pistol grip stocks were? I think that this would greatly reduce the virus problem.

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                  Roger Wright
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                  Sarah Brady wrote:

                  That has cut down on crime, and saved the precious lives of so many children.

                  False.

                  Sarah Brady wrote:

                  there was the assault weapons ban, which further cut down on crime, until armed assault was almost nonexistent.

                  Even more false. The preferred weapon is the same as the police use - a 9mm pistol.

                  Sarah Brady wrote:

                  I think that this would greatly reduce the virus problem.

                  It would have exactly the same effect as gun control - none whatsoever, other than to disarm the victims. It suffers from the same faulty thinking, that the criminal and ammoral people in society will abide by the law. Only those who would never dream of writing malicious code will register. Nice troll, though...;) "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                    Sarah Brady wrote:

                    That has cut down on crime, and saved the precious lives of so many children.

                    False.

                    Sarah Brady wrote:

                    there was the assault weapons ban, which further cut down on crime, until armed assault was almost nonexistent.

                    Even more false. The preferred weapon is the same as the police use - a 9mm pistol.

                    Sarah Brady wrote:

                    I think that this would greatly reduce the virus problem.

                    It would have exactly the same effect as gun control - none whatsoever, other than to disarm the victims. It suffers from the same faulty thinking, that the criminal and ammoral people in society will abide by the law. Only those who would never dream of writing malicious code will register. Nice troll, though...;) "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                    Gregory Smith
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                    You got it right! I posted that so maybe some of you could see how stupid gun control really is.

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                    • G Gregory Smith

                      You got it right! I posted that so maybe some of you could see how stupid gun control really is.

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                      code frog 0
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                      Wow! Thanks. I'm definitely convinced now. Just to think I never ever would have learned this if you hadn't barged into a software development message board not knowing anyone here and not having any credibility at all and shared this brilliant insight with us. You are so convincing. Your methods so perfect your desires so pure.:zzz::zzz::zzz: YAAAAAAWN!!! Go back to killing chipmunks with your pocket knife okay? Good!

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                        Wow! Thanks. I'm definitely convinced now. Just to think I never ever would have learned this if you hadn't barged into a software development message board not knowing anyone here and not having any credibility at all and shared this brilliant insight with us. You are so convincing. Your methods so perfect your desires so pure.:zzz::zzz::zzz: YAAAAAAWN!!! Go back to killing chipmunks with your pocket knife okay? Good!

                        Some assembly required. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.

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                        Gregory Smith
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                        WTF are you talking about?

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                        • G Gregory Smith

                          WTF are you talking about?

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                          code frog 0
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                          Pointers, memory maps, marshalling data across process boundaries writing bridge code in assembler to align interfaces. You know the normal stuff that gets talked about on software development message boards. What are you talking about, I forget already?:->

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                            Pointers, memory maps, marshalling data across process boundaries writing bridge code in assembler to align interfaces. You know the normal stuff that gets talked about on software development message boards. What are you talking about, I forget already?:->

                            Some assembly required. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.

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                            Gregory Smith
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                            OOOOO! I'm so impressed. I am a programmer too, so you are not making me feel very belittled.

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                              OOOOO! I'm so impressed. I am a programmer too, so you are not making me feel very belittled.

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                              code frog 0
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                              Oh! That's great! So do you discuss programming then on your firearm message boards?

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                                Oh! That's great! So do you discuss programming then on your firearm message boards?

                                Some assembly required. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.

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                                Gregory Smith
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                                Are you anti-gun? Why do you seem so aggravated that I posted that?

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                                • G Gregory Smith

                                  Are you anti-gun? Why do you seem so aggravated that I posted that?

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                                  Not anti-gun at all. I live in Idaho. Here guns are given for birthday presents. I think what has me annoyed is your method. I think I would have respected you a lot had you just brought up gun control and wanted to know what people thought about it. I would have told you that it's almost as affective as just leaving automatic weapons lying on the curb. I think gun control works about as well as the drunk driver campaigns work. You touched on a nerve with your method. That and a real knucklehead has been here lately causing several annoyances by registering a different username each time and then posting a bunch of garbage. I think I would have respected you and *possibly* participated had you taken a different approach. But I'm not anti-gun at all. A *very* long way from it to be sure.:rose:

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                                    whats the weather like on ur planet? :wtf:


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                                    Prakash Nadar
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                                    He/she is from this planet but I guess global warming is showing its affect. The Earth is changing :(


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                                    • F FlyingTinman

                                      "Sarah Brady" was a White House press secretary and gun activist for whom the "Brady Law" was named. This is obviously an NRA troll who is peeved that he can't easily buy an AK47 anymore to shoot squirrels and coke-cans in the back yard so he is fishing for our sympathy by trying to make us realize how we would suffer if the same unfair restrictions applied to our dangerous dev tools. Steve T

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                                      Lost User
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                                      FlyingTinman wrote:

                                      "Sarah Brady" was a White House press secretary

                                      James Brady, actually. He was shot by John Hinckley Jr. during the Reagan assisination attempt. His wife was Sarah. Cheers, Drew.

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                                      • F FlyingTinman

                                        "Sarah Brady" was a White House press secretary and gun activist for whom the "Brady Law" was named. This is obviously an NRA troll who is peeved that he can't easily buy an AK47 anymore to shoot squirrels and coke-cans in the back yard so he is fishing for our sympathy by trying to make us realize how we would suffer if the same unfair restrictions applied to our dangerous dev tools. Steve T

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                                        When I write software for killing squirrels and crushing coke cans he might have a point. In the mean time I will point out a statistic I admittedly haven't checked myself that there are more gun shops than branches of Macdonalds in the US. Maybe someone could tell me if this is so? Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                                        • R Roger Wright

                                          Sarah Brady wrote:

                                          That has cut down on crime, and saved the precious lives of so many children.

                                          False.

                                          Sarah Brady wrote:

                                          there was the assault weapons ban, which further cut down on crime, until armed assault was almost nonexistent.

                                          Even more false. The preferred weapon is the same as the police use - a 9mm pistol.

                                          Sarah Brady wrote:

                                          I think that this would greatly reduce the virus problem.

                                          It would have exactly the same effect as gun control - none whatsoever, other than to disarm the victims. It suffers from the same faulty thinking, that the criminal and ammoral people in society will abide by the law. Only those who would never dream of writing malicious code will register. Nice troll, though...;) "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                                          Lost User
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                                          In the end laws are often a reaction, you have to change the culture about guns which is slow and difficult. The tigress is here :-D

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