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  • D Dario Solera

    Jack Squirrel wrote:

    Seriously, how many useful Java projects have you seen on s***forge?

    Seriously, how many useful Java APPLICATIONS have you seen in the world? None. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] SETI@home Team: U-SETI@Polimi

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    Judah Gabriel Himango
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    I use Azureus on a daily basis. It's a nifty BitTorrent client with an easy to use UI. I've occassionally used the Eclipse IDE. Several websites use some useful Java applets: for example, just the other day I went to speakeasy to test my connection speed. They used a Java applet for that. My wife and father in law use EA.com's Pogo games, which are all built in Java and run in your browser; no installation required. Online game provider WildTangent also has used Java extensively in their games. I believe Yahoo does the same for many of their online, casual games as well. As another poster mentioned, lots of mobile device software is built in Java as well.

    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Bought a House! Judah Himango

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    • D Dario Solera

      Jack Squirrel wrote:

      Seriously, how many useful Java projects have you seen on s***forge?

      Seriously, how many useful Java APPLICATIONS have you seen in the world? None. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] SETI@home Team: U-SETI@Polimi

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      Nish Nishant
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      Dario Solera wrote:

      Seriously, how many useful Java APPLICATIONS have you seen in the world?

      Seriously, don't you have a cell phone? :rolleyes:

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        Dario Solera wrote:

        Seriously, how many useful Java APPLICATIONS have you seen in the world?

        Seriously, don't you have a cell phone? :rolleyes:

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        Dario Solera
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        Of course. I even developed a small English-Italian-English translator. Nice. It has to perform a linear search because 500 KB of memory are not enough to load the whole data and perform some binary search. So when you search, eg, the word 'awesome', it takes 10 seconds to get the result. But if you search 'abacus', only 1 or 2. Except Opera Mobile (anyway not available everywhere) and a few other 'useful' programs (what program? I can't remember anyone), J2ME produces only videogames. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] SETI@home Team: U-SETI@Polimi

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        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

          Frankly, I am surprised it didn't happen sooner. Java is the most popular programming language today. Also, it is much easier to learn than C++. Of course, I still have to see a decent Java desktop application, but on the server side Java is COBOL of 21st century. Having said all that, I'll stick to C++ for the time being - Java is boring :)


          My programming blahblahblah blog. If you ever find anything useful here, please let me know to remove it. -- modified at 12:27 Saturday 26th November, 2005

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          > but on the server side Java is COBOL of 21st century Is that a good thing? :rolleyes: > I'll stick to C++ for the time being - Java is boring Amen. I find most languages boring compared to C++. Life would be miserable without C++ compilers... -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.

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          • D Dario Solera

            Of course. I even developed a small English-Italian-English translator. Nice. It has to perform a linear search because 500 KB of memory are not enough to load the whole data and perform some binary search. So when you search, eg, the word 'awesome', it takes 10 seconds to get the result. But if you search 'abacus', only 1 or 2. Except Opera Mobile (anyway not available everywhere) and a few other 'useful' programs (what program? I can't remember anyone), J2ME produces only videogames. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] SETI@home Team: U-SETI@Polimi

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            Daniel Turini
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            Dario Solera wrote:

            It has to perform a linear search because 500 KB of memory are not enough to load the whole data and perform some binary search.

            You can create a small index file, so you can do a binary search. I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!

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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              > but on the server side Java is COBOL of 21st century Is that a good thing? :rolleyes: > I'll stick to C++ for the time being - Java is boring Amen. I find most languages boring compared to C++. Life would be miserable without C++ compilers... -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.

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              Nemanja Trifunovic
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              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

              > but on the server side Java is COBOL of 21st century Is that a good thing?

              :-D Depends on your life priorities, I guess. A COBOL programmer can earn a lot.

              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

              Life would be miserable without C++ compilers...

              true


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              • N Nish Nishant

                Dario Solera wrote:

                Seriously, how many useful Java APPLICATIONS have you seen in the world?

                Seriously, don't you have a cell phone? :rolleyes:

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                I have a shit slow Sony Ericsson with Java in it. :) -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.

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                • D Dario Solera

                  Jack Squirrel wrote:

                  Seriously, how many useful Java projects have you seen on s***forge?

                  Seriously, how many useful Java APPLICATIONS have you seen in the world? None. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] SETI@home Team: U-SETI@Polimi

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                  Sean Cundiff
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                  Umm, weapons control systems for Apache Helicopters? -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                    Umm, weapons control systems for Apache Helicopters? -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    :omg: I wonder how often the pilots get exceptions thrown up on their hud... ;) -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.

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                    • J Jack Puppy

                      Today Java overtook C++ as the language with most projects on SourceForge! Here is the current list for languages with more than 1000 projects: 1. Java (16738 projects) 2. C++ (16731 projects) 3. C (15934 projects) 4. PHP (12175 projects) 5. Perl (6209 projects) 6. Python (4542 projects) 7. C# (2892 projects) 8. JavaScript (2779 projects) 9. Visual Basic (2192 projects) 10. Delphi/Kylix (1926 projects) 11. Unix Shell (1845 projects) 12. Assembly (1608 projects) 13. PL/SQL (1145 projects) ----- First comment in the blog: Yes, you are right. This is a turning point in history when Java overtook all other languages in producing piles of animal excrement. Seriously, how many useful Java projects have you seen on s***forge? Bernie (Boom Boom) Geoffrion worked Atlanta Flames games in the 1970s with the splendid Jiggs McDonald. One night, Geoffrion said, "Jiggs, there are only three things to hockey: shooting and skating." McDonald said, "Right, Boomer. And what's the third?" The exasperated Geoffrion replied," Jiggs, that's the three. Shooting. And. Skating."

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      Is that the list of the number of projects, or the number of active projects? I'd like to see a list of the number of projects added in the last year... cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      • J Jack Puppy

                        Today Java overtook C++ as the language with most projects on SourceForge! Here is the current list for languages with more than 1000 projects: 1. Java (16738 projects) 2. C++ (16731 projects) 3. C (15934 projects) 4. PHP (12175 projects) 5. Perl (6209 projects) 6. Python (4542 projects) 7. C# (2892 projects) 8. JavaScript (2779 projects) 9. Visual Basic (2192 projects) 10. Delphi/Kylix (1926 projects) 11. Unix Shell (1845 projects) 12. Assembly (1608 projects) 13. PL/SQL (1145 projects) ----- First comment in the blog: Yes, you are right. This is a turning point in history when Java overtook all other languages in producing piles of animal excrement. Seriously, how many useful Java projects have you seen on s***forge? Bernie (Boom Boom) Geoffrion worked Atlanta Flames games in the 1970s with the splendid Jiggs McDonald. One night, Geoffrion said, "Jiggs, there are only three things to hockey: shooting and skating." McDonald said, "Right, Boomer. And what's the third?" The exasperated Geoffrion replied," Jiggs, that's the three. Shooting. And. Skating."

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                        Tad McClellan
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                        Just goes to show you, the lowest common denominator always wins. E=mc2 -> BOOM

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                        • D Daniel Turini

                          Dario Solera wrote:

                          It has to perform a linear search because 500 KB of memory are not enough to load the whole data and perform some binary search.

                          You can create a small index file, so you can do a binary search. I see dead pixels Yes, even I am blogging now!

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                          Dario Solera
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                          Index? What Index? The problem is that the dictionary has one file per letter (a, b, c, d, ...) and for each language (Italian, English). Each file contains a list such as (word, translation) There is no data to be indexed. Alternatively the index can be big like a half (roughly) of the whole dictionary, ie 600 KB (the whole dictionary, excluding the JAR, is about 1200 KB). Anyway, I consider the dictionary completed. Moreover, I don't use Java until 6 or more months ago... ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] SETI@home Team: U-SETI@Polimi

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                          • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                            I use Azureus on a daily basis. It's a nifty BitTorrent client with an easy to use UI. I've occassionally used the Eclipse IDE. Several websites use some useful Java applets: for example, just the other day I went to speakeasy to test my connection speed. They used a Java applet for that. My wife and father in law use EA.com's Pogo games, which are all built in Java and run in your browser; no installation required. Online game provider WildTangent also has used Java extensively in their games. I believe Yahoo does the same for many of their online, casual games as well. As another poster mentioned, lots of mobile device software is built in Java as well.

                            Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Bought a House! Judah Himango

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                            Chris Richardson
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                            Judah Himango wrote:

                            My wife and father in law use EA.com's Pogo games, which are all built in Java and run in your browser; no installation required.

                            Seriously, you're a programmer right? So you didn't download the 18MB JRE then? Ohh, no wait, you wrote one for yourself! Cool! Chris Richardson

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                              Is that the list of the number of projects, or the number of active projects? I'd like to see a list of the number of projects added in the last year... cheers, Chris Maunder

                              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                              There is no way to filter by activity, though you can show by langauge and development status In that case Java scores 3183 with Development Status: 5 - Production/Stable http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove\_list.php?form\_cat=198&discrim=11 C++ 2994... http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove\_list.php?form\_cat=165&discrim=11 hmm, not the results you were looking for ;)

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                              • J Jack Puppy

                                Today Java overtook C++ as the language with most projects on SourceForge! Here is the current list for languages with more than 1000 projects: 1. Java (16738 projects) 2. C++ (16731 projects) 3. C (15934 projects) 4. PHP (12175 projects) 5. Perl (6209 projects) 6. Python (4542 projects) 7. C# (2892 projects) 8. JavaScript (2779 projects) 9. Visual Basic (2192 projects) 10. Delphi/Kylix (1926 projects) 11. Unix Shell (1845 projects) 12. Assembly (1608 projects) 13. PL/SQL (1145 projects) ----- First comment in the blog: Yes, you are right. This is a turning point in history when Java overtook all other languages in producing piles of animal excrement. Seriously, how many useful Java projects have you seen on s***forge? Bernie (Boom Boom) Geoffrion worked Atlanta Flames games in the 1970s with the splendid Jiggs McDonald. One night, Geoffrion said, "Jiggs, there are only three things to hockey: shooting and skating." McDonald said, "Right, Boomer. And what's the third?" The exasperated Geoffrion replied," Jiggs, that's the three. Shooting. And. Skating."

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                                Eytukan
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                                Run away with ur virtual machine X|


                                "But your mind is very complex, very tricky. It makes simple things complicated. -- that's its work. And for centuries it has been trained for only one thing: to make things so complicated that your life becomes impossible."- Osho

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                                • C Chris Richardson

                                  Judah Himango wrote:

                                  My wife and father in law use EA.com's Pogo games, which are all built in Java and run in your browser; no installation required.

                                  Seriously, you're a programmer right? So you didn't download the 18MB JRE then? Ohh, no wait, you wrote one for yourself! Cool! Chris Richardson

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                                  Judah Gabriel Himango
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                                  The Sun JRE came pre-installed in their Windows XP installations. As I recall, this was part of the Sun v. MS lawsuit settlement several years ago.

                                  Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Bought a House! Judah Himango

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                                  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                                    The Sun JRE came pre-installed in their Windows XP installations. As I recall, this was part of the Sun v. MS lawsuit settlement several years ago.

                                    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Bought a House! Judah Himango

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                                    Mike Dimmick
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                                    That stopped Microsoft from shipping their virtual machine. If your machine came preinstalled with the Sun Java virtual machine, your OEM installed it for you. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                                      That stopped Microsoft from shipping their virtual machine. If your machine came preinstalled with the Sun Java virtual machine, your OEM installed it for you. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                                      Judah Gabriel Himango
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                                      I knew that was part of the deal, but I thought the Sun's VM was included in the OS as part of the deal. I just read some MS docs that say the company is not permitted to redistribute Sun's VM. So you guys were right, my fault.

                                      Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Bought a House! Judah Himango

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