Avant Browser - pros and cons
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Quartz... wrote:
its Definitely not for FF users because its too sophisticated and a bit complicated also due to enhanced feature list
:laugh::laugh: That is rich. That's possibly the most hilarious thing I've heard in quite a while...
Quartz... wrote:
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That list sounds exactly like everything Firefox does... :~
Do you have a specific reason for not using Firefox? Do you just dislike the Gecko engine? Are you not a big fan of standards? Maybe you just dislike Open Source Software?
And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005
David Stone wrote:
Do you have a specific reason for not using Firefox?
I find the UI a little inferior to using IE. It's primarily personal preference!
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Paul Watson wrote:
Firefox keyboard shortcuts[^].
Umm err my OP was in regards to Avant, I have FF installed at home. It has never really impressed me. When FF was still firebird (I think that was the name) the seemingly constant, your running an out of date build drove me nuts. How about publish RC once a week folks. From the sounds of it not much has changed.
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.
sfdougl wrote:
From the sounds of it not much has changed.
As opposed to the IE world, where you have to download Windows Update patches every week to patch a buffer overrun in IE? :~
Firefox had 7 patches between 1.0 and 1.5. IE had a lot more in that timeframe.
And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005
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>stick to HTML tables and java scripts As in tables for layout and not tabular data? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Paul Watson wrote:
From the sounds of it not much has changed.
That's usually what that means, Paul. :sigh:
And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005
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"because FF is strict to some standards so some page does not look good in FF" Eh? Sticking to standards is a good reason to use FF, not to avoid it! If the pages don't look good, that's the fault of the website designer, not of FF. Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.
Agreed FF sticks to some "high standards" but who cares what standard you stick to or not if you cannot render a page properly, if the web page don't look good in FF, blaming the designer is how reasonable, and it looks good in IE then what you say. Thats why i think 90% people stick to IE, because they don't care about the standards what they care all is the website should look good (for a browser it should be the basic goal) and i think its arrogant to say that FF browser is good even when it is not able to render a page properly, but the designer is bad. when the same page is good in IE or Netscape. "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein
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>stick to HTML tables and java scripts As in tables for layout and not tabular data? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
oh yes tabular data too, and even DHTML and everything i have done till now using IE i found it pretty OK with a good support of DOM also. i am still checking FF and what kind extra features it provides. you know we need to have a disucssion on Cons of IE :) "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein
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Paul Watson wrote:
From the sounds of it not much has changed.
That's usually what that means, Paul. :sigh:
And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005
Pardon? Did the threads get mixed up? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Agreed FF sticks to some "high standards" but who cares what standard you stick to or not if you cannot render a page properly, if the web page don't look good in FF, blaming the designer is how reasonable, and it looks good in IE then what you say. Thats why i think 90% people stick to IE, because they don't care about the standards what they care all is the website should look good (for a browser it should be the basic goal) and i think its arrogant to say that FF browser is good even when it is not able to render a page properly, but the designer is bad. when the same page is good in IE or Netscape. "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein
>Thats why i think 90% people stick to IE Nonesense. It is obvious that the reason most people use IE is because that's what comes pre-installed on their Windows PC. Most people don't even *know* there are alternatives to IE.
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Pardon? Did the threads get mixed up? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Hm. Interesting. I think that might be my fault (with the quoting...damn Midas. Doesn't want to play nicely with CPhog ;P).
I was making a remark on the using tables for layout thing...and I was just saying that people who say they "use tables" are usually referring to layout.
And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005
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Hm. Interesting. I think that might be my fault (with the quoting...damn Midas. Doesn't want to play nicely with CPhog ;P).
I was making a remark on the using tables for layout thing...and I was just saying that people who say they "use tables" are usually referring to layout.
And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005
Yeah, I just didn't want to jump to conclusions. *sigh* regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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sfdougl wrote:
From the sounds of it not much has changed.
As opposed to the IE world, where you have to download Windows Update patches every week to patch a buffer overrun in IE? :~
Firefox had 7 patches between 1.0 and 1.5. IE had a lot more in that timeframe.
And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005
Funny while reading your post it sounded like; “Oh yea, my browser can beat up your browser”. :) Could have been an opportunity to say something positive about FF instead of slandering IE; are there not enough “wars” in the geek community? Do we really need to add the browser to that list? :sigh: Does FF still usurp your home page and take you to the FF website when it’s out of date? Doing updates which not only include the browser, OS and everything else is easier than doing apps on an individual basis. hmm maybe Im getting to lazy / old for this stuff. :~
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.
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Funny while reading your post it sounded like; “Oh yea, my browser can beat up your browser”. :) Could have been an opportunity to say something positive about FF instead of slandering IE; are there not enough “wars” in the geek community? Do we really need to add the browser to that list? :sigh: Does FF still usurp your home page and take you to the FF website when it’s out of date? Doing updates which not only include the browser, OS and everything else is easier than doing apps on an individual basis. hmm maybe Im getting to lazy / old for this stuff. :~
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.
sfdougl wrote:
Does FF still usurp your home page and take you to the FF website when it’s out of date?
Nope. FF 1.5 has a brand new update system. Doesn't usurp your home page...and is quite useful. Especially for those of us who download nightly builds, as you can set it to use the nightly update channel. Very cool stuff.
Also the updates are binary patches that get applied on reboot restarting the app. So you don't have to download and install the whole 6MB package again. The patches are really tiny (nightlies are usually about 400k; security patches will most likely be smaller).
It's pretty painless.
And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005
-- modified at 2:00 Wednesday 7th December, 2005
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sfdougl wrote:
Does FF still usurp your home page and take you to the FF website when it’s out of date?
Nope. FF 1.5 has a brand new update system. Doesn't usurp your home page...and is quite useful. Especially for those of us who download nightly builds, as you can set it to use the nightly update channel. Very cool stuff.
Also the updates are binary patches that get applied on reboot restarting the app. So you don't have to download and install the whole 6MB package again. The patches are really tiny (nightlies are usually about 400k; security patches will most likely be smaller).
It's pretty painless.
And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005
-- modified at 2:00 Wednesday 7th December, 2005
Ahh, Much better. :) If get sick of Avant, then I defiantly will have to look at FF.
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.