Avant Browser - pros and cons
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code-frog wrote: The one thing Avant has the way kicks but over any other tabbed browser is SAVE ALL OPENED PAGES & EXIT If you want that feature in FireFox: you can install this. It adds that feature and more. The developer of the extensions mentions that it is unstable, but I haven't had any problems and I'll routinely have over 50 tabs open without issue. http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/tabextensions/index.html.en[^]
andy brummer wrote:
If you want that feature in FireFox: you can install this.
Yes, and plenty of others. The trouble is that Avant already has it. And aliases. And all the other choices I want for browsing (not development!). And it uses all the IE settings automatically, which can be a bliss in the office. All in one package, mostly working OK, without me having to search right and left for various plugins. OGR
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Quartz... wrote:
If FF has the support for all the latest advanced technologies, why is not compatible with a lot of simple websites out there ?
There are a number of contributing factors, but a big portion of it boils down to this: A good number of web pages out there have been designed by people with rather poor technical skills. When you have an error in (say) a C++ program, it might not compile, or it might crash. When you have a bug in a HTML page, it might display oddly. How oddly depends on the underlying design of the rendering engine, and on decisions made regarding how errors would be handled. Here's a very common example:
<div><font color="blue">The closing tags
<b><i> are out of order!</font></i>
And one of them is missing...<div>This is invalid HTML. Both IE and FF do their best to display *something*, and usually they get results that are pretty close... But in some instances, there are differences in the final output. Arguing over which is more "correct" is pointless. The more troublesome inconsistencies spring from practices that, at one time, *were* valid - for instance, pages written for IE 4.x or Netscape 4.x. Many of the features introduced in those browsers were later standardized on and made available by both... but a fair number of them weren't. So a browser-maker has to make a decision: support a feature that has no formal specification and/or is no longer common? Sometimes it's fairly easy - Netscape's LAYER tags were part of a DHTML implementation that was less powerful and more convoluted than the solution finally standardized on: drop it. MARQUEE tags were never standardized on either, but are used heavily in many East Asian sites, and can make them unusable if not supported - so keep support for them. Other times, it's tricky - one of the features of IE4 that is still heavily used to this day is the
document.allauto-array, which can be used to iterate through every element in a document, or choose a specific one by id. It was superseded in v5.0 browsers bydocument.getElementById()and friends, but still persists as a sort of shorthand in a lot of code. The problem is, if a fully IE-compatible implementation of it were put into Mozilla, it might break code written with cross-browser compatibility in mind! This is worse than breaking on IE-only sites, since it does nothing to encourage programmers to write better code, but adds yet anoThats a lot of information there, i got most of them though thanks,coz i worked on some BHO related application with IE SDK. I might give FF another try someday and see what kind of development environment it provides, and yes greasemonkey extension :) "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein
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I know FireFox users hate IE (not the IE users i presume :) ) I tried avant browser after a message by Marc here[^]and i am finding it with loads of extended features which IE users always wanted to have at a single place. I would say its Definitely not for FF users because its too sophisticated and a bit complicated interface,due to enhanced feature list, but for IE users this adds an immense features all IE users always wanted. 1st the "The Con's " 1. Seems to be too cluttered (Firefox or IE Interface is much simpler) 2. Somebody said it crashes (but not till now i have used it for three days) 3. It is 100% based on Internet Explorer, it actually extends the IE using inbuilt BHO. 4. There are two tabs which are really horrible a> Yahoo search tab (may be somebody find it useful but you can hide it) b> Similar website (This one actually is a bit cluttery one you might see you can hide this one too ) might show a set of squares as if loading something 5. I am not sure about this one but i am unable to use the Answers.com toolbar in Avant. ( may be i have to reinstall it) 6..Add your cons here...... The Pro's 1. Tabbed browsing 2. Based on IE - Works on all the websites where IE works 3. In built Google search tab 4. you don't have to import/export anything everything in IE is automatically there 5. One cick- you can hide/ close all the browsers to the system tray 6. One click all features of tabbed browsing, 7. And yes it is faster than IE 8. capable to Block "In the page " Flash or even image Ads in the page 9. Zoom in zoom out any image in the page 10. mouseover text in the page and a floating option of search etc. 11. Feeds Menu like favorite menu 12. And Ofcourse the Cool Skins.... 13..Add your pros here....... For all the IE users its bliss. Friends, Romans and all the fellow FF users please don't shoot me for using extended IE like browser, we can live side by side :) "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein -- modified at 18:01 Monday 5th December, 2005
(FF probably supports some of these features in all fairness) Avant Pros -Built in RSS reader. -Double click on tab to close. -Shift click to open a website in a new tab or right click open -If a URL specifies a new window Avant opens it as a new tab, not another instance. -Easily turn scripting on / off. -When I type make an error typing in a URL, it does take me to pay pal website. -Website alias’s, I simply type “gg” into the address bar and press enter it takes me to Google. -It just works, no worrying about whether or not this version works with what or is a website compliant with this weeks WC3 standards. -Edit the typed URL history. -popup blocker. -It of coarse supports IE shortcuts like typing in the address and pressing control + enter to fill in http & .com Avant Cons -f4 doesn’t work (f4 in IE puts the cursor in the address bar) -Website custom icons don’t always work. With a little customization you can easily de-clutter it; most of the features that clutter the UI are tool bars.
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.
thedailywtf.com[^] -- modified at 5:44 Tuesday 6th December, 2005
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Look, that's fine. You win. My users, yeah you know those people who don't do this for a living.. Doctors, lawyers, CPA's... People who just want something to work. Don't care about your standards definition. They want something that works.
Edbert P. wrote:
90% (actually now it is less than that) of the world uses IE because they don't know any better.
Nice try. You're wrong. It's because their on-line banking sites don't work in firefox. It's because their on-line medical resource sites don't work in firefox. It's because their on-line training sites don't work in firefox.
Edbert P. wrote:
If 90% of the world lives in poverty should it be called standard way of life?
You are being foolish and way out of context. Poverty is not comfortable it's nothing anybody would choose. A lot of users use I.E. because it works and *is* comfortable. Keep it in context here if you expect any credibility...
Edbert P. wrote:
Our standard of life has improved compared to the 15th century. What was the standard back then is not the standard now. Sure, majority of people in the world still couldn't afford to eat meals 3 times a day or take a shower every day, but that's because they live below the standard.
Again your use of context is terribly weak here. We are talking about web browsers. If you want to save the world or opine about social history you have my blessing. Firefox and I.E. don't fit either of those contexts. It's just a browser. This is exactly why people get sick of hearing about firefox all the time. Someone has to pick up a dead horse, burn their bra and ride of to save ... um nobody ... wow. Nobody needs to be rescued from or by a web browser. People use what works for them. Learn to understand and respect that. It's not your standard it's their's and they want something that is comfortable for them. Once upon a time I recommended all my supported offices and networks use firefox. I got *so* many reports of important websites, yes work-related websites not working that I gave up. You can preach all you want. The people who use IE the most are not web developers or software developers. They outnumber us 100,000 to 1. They don't care about your phonix definition of standard. They want www.usbank.com to work though so they can transfer funds and run statements. Go save the world somewhere else.
How ironic that the Quote button does not work with my FF 1.5 while I'm writing this :) I'm not against IE or anything as I've had my griefs with FF too (I've been developing ASP.Net applications for both, I've seen flaws and changes to implementations in every release of FF that made me want to punch somebody), and I have to concede my example is weak (I don't usually argue with people, I need to sharpen my skills, so thanks for that). However, I'm all for advancement, and I see FF as raising the bar higher and by that forcing people to adhere to a higher standard and stick to it. Without FF I doubt that IE will improve at all, nor will the so-called web developer programming their IE-only website. FF brings improvement to the web development world by introducing newer standard and being opponent of IE, and for that I thank the creators. Also, having quite an experience in web development I can assure you it is much easier coding for IE than FF, as IE provides leniency toward sloppy code. However, as much as I like being lazy, I try to learn the CORRECT WAY of coding so it works on at least major browsers for different OS platform (otherwise how are you going to let those Mac/Linux/whatever users access your website? Ask them to use IE?). To me moving from IE to FF from development POV is like moving from VB6 to VB.Net, different yet not totally different but definitely better. Right now there are less IE-only websites compared to even a year ago and that's because FF keeps improving and there are people that decided FF is good enough for them to NOT use IE-only websites or uses IE sparingly only for those specific websites. Also with the IE tab now available I'm pretty sure I can persuade more people to join the FF clan and experience what it has to offer. Note: I'm not FF-fanboy. I'd ask people to use Opera if that's what they prefer, or whatever else that is considered safer than IE and is an improvement. Edbert P. Sydney, Australia
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How ironic that the Quote button does not work with my FF 1.5 while I'm writing this :) I'm not against IE or anything as I've had my griefs with FF too (I've been developing ASP.Net applications for both, I've seen flaws and changes to implementations in every release of FF that made me want to punch somebody), and I have to concede my example is weak (I don't usually argue with people, I need to sharpen my skills, so thanks for that). However, I'm all for advancement, and I see FF as raising the bar higher and by that forcing people to adhere to a higher standard and stick to it. Without FF I doubt that IE will improve at all, nor will the so-called web developer programming their IE-only website. FF brings improvement to the web development world by introducing newer standard and being opponent of IE, and for that I thank the creators. Also, having quite an experience in web development I can assure you it is much easier coding for IE than FF, as IE provides leniency toward sloppy code. However, as much as I like being lazy, I try to learn the CORRECT WAY of coding so it works on at least major browsers for different OS platform (otherwise how are you going to let those Mac/Linux/whatever users access your website? Ask them to use IE?). To me moving from IE to FF from development POV is like moving from VB6 to VB.Net, different yet not totally different but definitely better. Right now there are less IE-only websites compared to even a year ago and that's because FF keeps improving and there are people that decided FF is good enough for them to NOT use IE-only websites or uses IE sparingly only for those specific websites. Also with the IE tab now available I'm pretty sure I can persuade more people to join the FF clan and experience what it has to offer. Note: I'm not FF-fanboy. I'd ask people to use Opera if that's what they prefer, or whatever else that is considered safer than IE and is an improvement. Edbert P. Sydney, Australia
Edbert P. wrote:
Also, having quite an experience in web development I can assure you it is much easier coding for IE than FF, as IE provides leniency toward sloppy code.
It depends on what you're trying to do. When doing advanced DHTML I generally find that Firefox is less of a pain than IE.
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How ironic that the Quote button does not work with my FF 1.5 while I'm writing this :) I'm not against IE or anything as I've had my griefs with FF too (I've been developing ASP.Net applications for both, I've seen flaws and changes to implementations in every release of FF that made me want to punch somebody), and I have to concede my example is weak (I don't usually argue with people, I need to sharpen my skills, so thanks for that). However, I'm all for advancement, and I see FF as raising the bar higher and by that forcing people to adhere to a higher standard and stick to it. Without FF I doubt that IE will improve at all, nor will the so-called web developer programming their IE-only website. FF brings improvement to the web development world by introducing newer standard and being opponent of IE, and for that I thank the creators. Also, having quite an experience in web development I can assure you it is much easier coding for IE than FF, as IE provides leniency toward sloppy code. However, as much as I like being lazy, I try to learn the CORRECT WAY of coding so it works on at least major browsers for different OS platform (otherwise how are you going to let those Mac/Linux/whatever users access your website? Ask them to use IE?). To me moving from IE to FF from development POV is like moving from VB6 to VB.Net, different yet not totally different but definitely better. Right now there are less IE-only websites compared to even a year ago and that's because FF keeps improving and there are people that decided FF is good enough for them to NOT use IE-only websites or uses IE sparingly only for those specific websites. Also with the IE tab now available I'm pretty sure I can persuade more people to join the FF clan and experience what it has to offer. Note: I'm not FF-fanboy. I'd ask people to use Opera if that's what they prefer, or whatever else that is considered safer than IE and is an improvement. Edbert P. Sydney, Australia
Now that's a reply I can completely agree with. Much more accurate in my experience. I do believe that Firefox does a lot of good. I think Microsoft did the world some injustice with I.E. the current spyware I'm trying to remove from a clients computer for example. What a waste of my time, thank you Microsoft. But heck, we all need job security from something and Microsoft provides it in more ways than one (tongue-in-cheek). I don't have any problem with your comments here. I think they better articulate what you were originally wanting to say and I couldn't agree more.:rose: - Rex
Some assembly required. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
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Graham Bradshaw wrote:
The clear implication here is that if Firefox does not render a site properly, it's the fault of the web site. Seems arrogant to me.
Perhaps. But, fairly honest. Probably 7-8 times out of 10, if i find a website isn't working right in FF it's doing something dodgy or down-right stupid. The rest of the time, it's a bug in FF or a missing plug-in. Why is it a good idea to put a bit of the blame on site owners? Because for some sites, no matter how good FF gets at emulating IE's behavior, there are going to be problems unless the site owner is serious about wanting it to work cross-platform. Consider the recent open beta of Windows Live, and the soon-to-be beta of Windows Live Mail: The former took a good deal of flack for launching without proper FF support, and quickly updated to correct it. The latter is planned to support FF by the time it goes public. Maybe i'm just an arrogant, demanding user, but having a site come up working for me is *always* more important than getting a diplomatically-worded blurb in some "report broken page" dialog... ;)
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Shog9 wrote:
Perhaps. But, fairly honest. Probably 7-8 times out of 10, if i find a website isn't working right in FF it's doing something dodgy or down-right stupid. The rest of the time, it's a bug in FF or a missing plug-in.
I don't dispute that at all, but you catch more flies with honey. As I said to David, I see the wording of this like an error message - the user is never to blame. If the FF team want to know about sites that don't render properly (for whatever reason) it can't hurt to ask nicely. The person reading the message almost certainly isn't in a position to modify the site, so making it seem in any way their fault seems counter-productive.
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Kant wrote:
Why open another IE window to browse those sites? Just use IE tab[^] Firefox extension. That way only one browser window is opened
Why? Because IE tab crashed Firefox everytime I use it. That's why. Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!
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I figured FF would come out with a script for that sooner or later. FF uses a hell of a lot more memory than that. I've caught FF using 2 gigs+ on multiple occassions. I open FF when I need to and close it when I'm done. - Rex
Some assembly required. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
FF isn't great with memory but it won't use 2gigs for just 12 tabs. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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David Stone wrote:
Do you have a specific reason for not using Firefox?
Only one that , its not consistent with all the websites. or may be all the websites are not consistent with FF. Sometimes a tab disapears, sometimes you can't download things, sometimes the color of the background in a page changes. sometimes... When i surf the web i don't want to be bothered about why the particular link is not showing up or a particular background color became dark. because FF is strict to some standards so some page does not look good in FF, (i heard a lot of time you need plugins to see CP in FF or some new version of FF for grease monkey extension ???? why ) and IE may be more forgiving but is that not what an application should be more forgiving. I am not into the Open source war or may be i am blindly passionate about Microsoft technologies. May be i asked for that there though, but its because simplicity which not there in Avant thats what i meant. which is there in FF as well as IE. And not that i haven't tried FF. i did for a few weeks but, i couldn't get that ease of use , that experience, that i get with IE. so i quit.
David Stone wrote:
Do you just dislike the Gecko engine?
Geico engine i have never heard about that
David Stone wrote:
Are you not a big fan of standards?
i am unable to relate this question with the pros and cons of Avant ? you mean Avant is not standard or IE is not standard ?
David Stone wrote:
Maybe you just dislike Open Source Software?
well i don't dislike open source, why are you against me. I don't think There is a single reason for anybody in the world to dislike opensource "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein -- modified at 18:15 Monday 5th December, 2005
"because FF is strict to some standards so some page does not look good in FF" Eh? Sticking to standards is a good reason to use FF, not to avoid it! If the pages don't look good, that's the fault of the website designer, not of FF. Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.
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andy brummer wrote:
If you don't deal with HTML and web development often then IE is just fine.
Can you shed some more light on that. i do a lot of HTML, web development but normally stick to HTML tables and java scripts :) What is the difference ? , thanks "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein
>stick to HTML tables and java scripts As in tables for layout and not tabular data? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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code-frog wrote:
The one thing Avant has the way kicks but over any other tabbed browser is SAVE ALL OPENED PAGES & EXIT
SessionSaver[^] :)
code-frog wrote:
I'll open 12 tabs and use a gig of memory
:omg: Holy crap. That's another thing I don't particularly like about Avant...it seemed to me to use up a crapload more memory than it should have. But that was a while ago.
And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005
I wrote a ballad to SessionSaver once but then IE crashed and I lost it. *sigh* regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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FF isn't great with memory but it won't use 2gigs for just 12 tabs. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
I actually think there's a problem when you run Roboform in I.E. (Avant) and Firefox and you have them both open at the same time. Something about that seems to want memory infinitely. I can open it right now and in a few hours I'll be up around 2 gigs in FF and about half-a-gig in Avant. It gets a bit nasty. I just use one or the other. I should disable Roboform in FF and see if the problem continues.
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(FF probably supports some of these features in all fairness) Avant Pros -Built in RSS reader. -Double click on tab to close. -Shift click to open a website in a new tab or right click open -If a URL specifies a new window Avant opens it as a new tab, not another instance. -Easily turn scripting on / off. -When I type make an error typing in a URL, it does take me to pay pal website. -Website alias’s, I simply type “gg” into the address bar and press enter it takes me to Google. -It just works, no worrying about whether or not this version works with what or is a website compliant with this weeks WC3 standards. -Edit the typed URL history. -popup blocker. -It of coarse supports IE shortcuts like typing in the address and pressing control + enter to fill in http & .com Avant Cons -f4 doesn’t work (f4 in IE puts the cursor in the address bar) -Website custom icons don’t always work. With a little customization you can easily de-clutter it; most of the features that clutter the UI are tool bars.
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.
thedailywtf.com[^] -- modified at 5:44 Tuesday 6th December, 2005
>-f4 doesn’t work (f4 in IE puts the cursor in the address bar) Alt-D. >-Website custom icons don’t always work. Better than IE which looses them once the cache expires or doesn't update to new ones. >-Built in RSS reader. Do you actually use that? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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>-f4 doesn’t work (f4 in IE puts the cursor in the address bar) Alt-D. >-Website custom icons don’t always work. Better than IE which looses them once the cache expires or doesn't update to new ones. >-Built in RSS reader. Do you actually use that? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Paul Watson wrote:
Alt-D.
Cool, I didn't know that. The one thing about some apps I hate the most is lack of keyboard support.
Paul Watson wrote:
Better than IE which looses them once the cache expires or doesn't update to new ones.
Only a minor nuisance for me.
Paul Watson wrote:
Do you actually use that?
:-O Yup, CP is the only site in which I read the RSS feed. I don’t have much free time at home so I keep my web reading to a minimum. I come to work to relax from working :)
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.
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I've used Avant exclusively and been extremely happy. I've developed some habits to make it easier. First off I ditch Yahoo search it sucks. In the Avant browser miscellaneous options you can enable the Google Toolbar and that's perfect for me. I change the default search to Google and I close the Yahoo toolbar all together. The other thing I do is go into the Feeds->Organize Feeds and I delete all the RSS crap it preloads into their. I don't need it as an RSS reader so I don't use it for that. The one thing Avant has that way kicks butt over any other tabbed browser is SAVE ALL OPENED PAGES & EXIT I use my browser as a tool and I like it to save stuff I was referring to when I have to restart. It's an awesome tool. If you have more questions about it let me know. It beats the pants off firefox and that's about all there is too it. I have firefox and I use it the biggest thing for me is it won't save my opened pages for me. That's just lame. So I'm all about Avant and very happy with it. Crashing??? Upgrade. I've not had an avant browser crash in geeeeez, a long time and I abuse the crap out of it. I'll open 12 tabs and use a gig of memory then close them all at once. It's been stable for me. But I'm a damned genius!:laugh: - Rex
Some assembly required. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
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code-frog wrote:
I'll open 12 tabs and use a gig of memory then close them all at once. It's been stable for me. But I'm a damned genius!
Currently I have 36 documents open between all of my 13 Firefox windows - and that's normal for me. ;-) Firefox is using a total of 221 MB. I don't have any crashes but I generally restart it once every day or two because it gets sluggish.
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Paul Watson wrote:
Alt-D.
Cool, I didn't know that. The one thing about some apps I hate the most is lack of keyboard support.
Paul Watson wrote:
Better than IE which looses them once the cache expires or doesn't update to new ones.
Only a minor nuisance for me.
Paul Watson wrote:
Do you actually use that?
:-O Yup, CP is the only site in which I read the RSS feed. I don’t have much free time at home so I keep my web reading to a minimum. I come to work to relax from working :)
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.
Firefox keyboard shortcuts[^]. And don't be embarassed by the RSS thing, it is perfectly reasonable to use it for one feed. Anything more though and I think you have to be mad to use the built-in FF RSS support. :) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Firefox keyboard shortcuts[^]. And don't be embarassed by the RSS thing, it is perfectly reasonable to use it for one feed. Anything more though and I think you have to be mad to use the built-in FF RSS support. :) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Paul Watson wrote:
Firefox keyboard shortcuts[^].
Umm err my OP was in regards to Avant, I have FF installed at home. It has never really impressed me. When FF was still firebird (I think that was the name) the seemingly constant, your running an out of date build drove me nuts. How about publish RC once a week folks. From the sounds of it not much has changed.
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.
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Firefox keyboard shortcuts[^]. And don't be embarassed by the RSS thing, it is perfectly reasonable to use it for one feed. Anything more though and I think you have to be mad to use the built-in FF RSS support. :) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
OT BTW, a few months ago I asked about film camera lenses as a birthday gift for the girlfriend. I ended up buying one of your recommendations (don’t remember which off the top of my head). It was a hit, she loves the lens and the pictures are good. Thanks for he help! :cool:
ZeePain! wrote:
This seems like one of those programs that started small, grew incrementally, building internal pressure, and finally barfed all over its source code sneakers. Or something.
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I know FireFox users hate IE (not the IE users i presume :) ) I tried avant browser after a message by Marc here[^]and i am finding it with loads of extended features which IE users always wanted to have at a single place. I would say its Definitely not for FF users because its too sophisticated and a bit complicated interface,due to enhanced feature list, but for IE users this adds an immense features all IE users always wanted. 1st the "The Con's " 1. Seems to be too cluttered (Firefox or IE Interface is much simpler) 2. Somebody said it crashes (but not till now i have used it for three days) 3. It is 100% based on Internet Explorer, it actually extends the IE using inbuilt BHO. 4. There are two tabs which are really horrible a> Yahoo search tab (may be somebody find it useful but you can hide it) b> Similar website (This one actually is a bit cluttery one you might see you can hide this one too ) might show a set of squares as if loading something 5. I am not sure about this one but i am unable to use the Answers.com toolbar in Avant. ( may be i have to reinstall it) 6..Add your cons here...... The Pro's 1. Tabbed browsing 2. Based on IE - Works on all the websites where IE works 3. In built Google search tab 4. you don't have to import/export anything everything in IE is automatically there 5. One cick- you can hide/ close all the browsers to the system tray 6. One click all features of tabbed browsing, 7. And yes it is faster than IE 8. capable to Block "In the page " Flash or even image Ads in the page 9. Zoom in zoom out any image in the page 10. mouseover text in the page and a floating option of search etc. 11. Feeds Menu like favorite menu 12. And Ofcourse the Cool Skins.... 13..Add your pros here....... For all the IE users its bliss. Friends, Romans and all the fellow FF users please don't shoot me for using extended IE like browser, we can live side by side :) "Not everything that counts can be counted..." -Albert Einstein -- modified at 18:01 Monday 5th December, 2005
Quartz... wrote:
i am finding it with loads of extended features which IE users always wanted to have at a single place.
Avant Browser is Cool.. But I am great fan of http://www.maxthon.com/[^], and this post too coming from that browser only :)
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