Works for me. I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

I see what you did there. :-D #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

:thumbsup: #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Oracle's suit comes across as a bit disingenuous and hypocritical. And is also why I got the megalithic, egomaniacal corporation names mixed up. I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

You will need to add LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the startup script for postgres. It looks like Oracle Linux 7.4 is using systemd, so try adding the line Environment=LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/u01/PostgreSQL/10/lib/postgresql to /lib/systemd/system/postgresql.service. The best place for that would be right after the line that says Export=PGDATA=path-to-pgdata Meanwhile, I would follow Richard's advice and contact the PostgreSQL mailing list and ask there. They may have a better solution so that when you update to PGSQL 10.XX or 11.XX, you won't have to continually remember to edit the startup script.

The claim here is that Google violated Oracle's copyright by using the same API surface in their (Google's) java library/sdk thus obviating the need to use Oracle's. It's a little bit like saying two CPU manufacturers producing the same but competing cpus (ala Intel and AMD) can't have the same pin-outs thus making it impossible to swap an AMD cpu for an Intel one or vice-versa. #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

Joe Woodbury wrote: You know Oracle is bad when everyone welcomes Microsoft and IBM as being preferred. That's evil :laugh: :laugh: but so true... :sigh: :sigh: M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

You ask "your" users what sort of queries they "typically" deal with; and (re)design your data warehouse based on that. This isn't something you base on opinions gathered in the wild. The Master said, 'Am I indeed possessed of knowledge? I am not knowing. But if a mean person, who appears quite empty-like, ask anything of me, I set it forth from one end to the other, and exhaust it.' ― Confucian Analects

Run for the hills! #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: Do you have a specific need for downloading Oracle's implementation? No idea. It's for another product. But thanks. Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

It's because companies above a certain size require software that (claims to be) extensible, flexible, and expandable, and which is supported by a company that has a huge reserves, so will not collapse and leave them in the lurch -- these days, any supplier company less than fifteen years old need not apply. Unfortunately, that leaves only a few players, which have taken so much control of the demographic that they pay little heed to users' needs or complaints -- not to mention that their claims of extensibility, flexibility, and expandability are three parts fiction, and hideously expensive, as they mostly require "consultants" from the suppliers be embedded in the customers' companies for months at extremely high rates. So we're stuck with arrogant, overly powerful suppliers, who make everything work to their advantage, not their customers'. I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

:thumbsup: Hope you get the problem solved!

Yes! Please do it! As fast as possible! So much the sooner we can jump on the carcass of Java! :-D :-D :thumbsup::thumbsup: #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

The Bugatti/V.W. is something different, a Bugatti doesn't solve a problem that other brands have, except that it has more status and luxury. The cloud solves actual problems and costs may even be one of them. In one case the solid practical reason was that the on-premises servers were running out of available space. They had everything on-premises, including VM workstations that got less and less memory because the servers couldn't keep up. They were talking about giving everyone a laptop to solve that problem, then bought a new mega server instead. Everyone, including the sys admins, were advocating the cloud for certain solutions. Their issue also wasn't the money, it was security, because somehow the cloud is less secure (according to management and compliance). Another still had a "developer develops, passes code over to system admin who deploys to production" kind of setup, and the practical reason there was that the system admins couldn't keep up with development. That could be solved by going more DevOps and practicing CI/CD and isn't necessarily solved by the cloud, although it does make it somewhat easier. However, they had a lot of servers doing nothing most of the time and peaking once or twice per week, which is another scenario the cloud handles a lot better. And they could get rid of their data centers, which costs lots, including storage of the physical servers. Well, they probably have to write them off first, which could take a while because they just bought a new one... I don't think teams, on average, want to get with "the new thing". Lots of people don't like change, especially if that means learning new things which makes their jobs harder. My experience is that one person wants the latest greatest and alerts the rest of the team. By the time the entire team or even multiple teams want this technology as well it's no longer latest greatest and they're convinced it solves a problem they're having. So, if the people you pay for their technical knowledge tell you to go in a certain technical direction then why would you overrule them because of an uninformed "gut feeling"? That's just bad management... In the end it may even be a matter of keeping up because you can't get new hires otherwise. Last month, I turned down two jobs because they didn't do cloud (which would be a total waste of my two new Azure certificates). No (good) developer wants to work for a company that doesn't use new technologies once in a while. I'm turning into somewhat of a cloud advocate thou