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  • D David Wulff

    I would say religion was responsible for all of the examples you gave. In WWII, the Allies used to say God was on their side, didn't they? Well guess what, so did the Germans and the Japanese, and the Taliban are saying the same thing this very night. The faith in God insipers men to fight. It's the athiests who see the flaws in it. "For God and Country" I beleieve the phrase goes. That is not by mistake, either, that is because if a person beleives they are fighting with God, they can justify anything. Do you really beleive all of the men responsible for carrying out the genocide of the Jews in WWII believed they were doing something wrong? That just isn't so. Two things happen when you join the military to fight. First they remove all sense of individuality and values from you, thus making you a team player and able to follow orders without thinking "why" or "what if"; and second they force religion down your throat, as a man will die for God, but will not die for a patch of mud. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.

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    "For God and Country" I beleieve the phrase goes. That is not by mistake, either, that is because if a person beleives they are fighting with God, they can justify anything. Do you really beleive all of the men responsible for carrying out the genocide of the Jews in WWII believed they were doing something wrong? That just isn't so. That doesn't mean that the whole war was based on religion. The same can be said about the massacre of million of Jews by Hitler. That was fascism, not a fight between Christianity and Judaism. // Fazlul


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      http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god\_clarifies\_dont\_kill.html "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      Damn John, given some of the replies, I guess you should have put a "HUMOR ALERT" on your message. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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        http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god\_clarifies\_dont\_kill.html "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        Mike Burston
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        Thanks John - nothing like a quick savaging of religious doctrines to get the day started right! I especially liked the caption under the picture - "Above: God.". ----------------------------- "My name is Sven und I am from Sveden. I am making das moovies mit mine friend Inga, fvor ve are very poor." - Christian Graus, Oct 29 2001 -----------------------------

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        • S sAmAnThA

          What's funny about using God's word? "God" shouldn't use as a joking matter or just for fun... "GOD said".. our God doesn't say any bad words or expression.... I am not a very devoted Catholic but Geezz... have respect to Almighty GOD... :rose: Samantha:rose:

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          Samantha, I am a Christian myself, and I have learned that that there are people here who are very venomous in their antireligious opinions. If you come across something here that offends you, the best thing to do is to ignore it. To do otherwise can lead to a flame war that can get nasty (some will even take it out of the lounge and send you personal hateful emails). So lighten up, learn to laugh at yourself, and see the humour in things. (Just some advice, do with it as you will:rose: ) As for that article, (language aside) I think it is a pretty accurate representation of how God must feel. I think He is very angry at us for all the evil things we do "in the name of God". But I also believe He is a loving and caring God, and as long as we follow His word to the best of our abilities, everything will turn out fine. --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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            "For God and Country" I beleieve the phrase goes. That is not by mistake, either, that is because if a person beleives they are fighting with God, they can justify anything. Do you really beleive all of the men responsible for carrying out the genocide of the Jews in WWII believed they were doing something wrong? That just isn't so. That doesn't mean that the whole war was based on religion. The same can be said about the massacre of million of Jews by Hitler. That was fascism, not a fight between Christianity and Judaism. // Fazlul


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            David Wulff
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            That doesn't mean that the whole war was based on religion. Let me lay this down in the Common Speech: If it was not for religion, the war would never have been fought on the scale it was, and indeed may never have even began, as WWI may not have come around. The same can be said about the massacre of million of Jews by Hitler Er? What exactly did you think I was talking about? I was talking about the genocide of the Jews. That was clearly based on religion, and was a fight between Christians and Jews. Religions don't have fights - followers of them do. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident. P.S. Oh, and I'll just point out that it wasn't Hitler who was directly responsible for the genocide. That's like saying Bush was directly responsible for the September 11th attacks.

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              What's funny about using God's word? "God" shouldn't use as a joking matter or just for fun... "GOD said".. our God doesn't say any bad words or expression.... I am not a very devoted Catholic but Geezz... have respect to Almighty GOD... :rose: Samantha:rose:

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              What's funny about using God's word? Um... just about everything ??? our God doesn't say any bad words or expression Well, my god is John Simmons, and he's famous for his bad words and expressons. I'm also willing to bet my god's more fun that yours on the weekends. ...have respect to Almighty GOD Which god would that be ? Please be more specific when referring to deities - this is an international web site, after all. ----------------------------- "My name is Sven und I am from Sveden. I am making das moovies mit mine friend Inga, fvor ve are very poor." - Christian Graus, Oct 29 2001 -----------------------------

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                What's funny about using God's word? "God" shouldn't use as a joking matter or just for fun... "GOD said".. our God doesn't say any bad words or expression.... I am not a very devoted Catholic but Geezz... have respect to Almighty GOD... :rose: Samantha:rose:

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                Christian Graus
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                Lighten up, Samantha. Leaving alone for a moment the differences between Catholicism and Christianity, if you're not a 'very devoted' Catholic, then how can you get all self righteous because someone made a joke, especially one which makes a very valid point ? Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001

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                  Samantha, I am a Christian myself, and I have learned that that there are people here who are very venomous in their antireligious opinions. If you come across something here that offends you, the best thing to do is to ignore it. To do otherwise can lead to a flame war that can get nasty (some will even take it out of the lounge and send you personal hateful emails). So lighten up, learn to laugh at yourself, and see the humour in things. (Just some advice, do with it as you will:rose: ) As for that article, (language aside) I think it is a pretty accurate representation of how God must feel. I think He is very angry at us for all the evil things we do "in the name of God". But I also believe He is a loving and caring God, and as long as we follow His word to the best of our abilities, everything will turn out fine. --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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                  David Wulff
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                  some will even take it out of the lounge and send you personal hateful emails I should hope these people are instantly barred from the communuty. :mad: Personal insults aimed at John and his Goat/Latex fetishes are all very well, but written abuse sent like that is just not on. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.

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                  • T Tim Smith

                    Damn John, given some of the replies, I guess you should have put a "HUMOR ALERT" on your message. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                    Maximilien
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                    Taking John's defence, I think that any links/story taken from "The Onion" is by definition either really funny, sarcastic, ironic, and not to be taken "literally" (sp?). I didn't found the article funny ( as in hillarious ) but as in fun to read with a great ending. Max. :rose:

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                    • T Tim Smith

                      Damn John, given some of the replies, I guess you should have put a "HUMOR ALERT" on your message. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                      Fazlul Kabir
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                      He's getting old, so let's forgive him. Truely I think the post is based on some facts, though I don't buy the argument that religion is itself has anything to do with it. It's the fanatics and extremist who are to blame. // Fazlul


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                      • D David Wulff

                        That doesn't mean that the whole war was based on religion. Let me lay this down in the Common Speech: If it was not for religion, the war would never have been fought on the scale it was, and indeed may never have even began, as WWI may not have come around. The same can be said about the massacre of million of Jews by Hitler Er? What exactly did you think I was talking about? I was talking about the genocide of the Jews. That was clearly based on religion, and was a fight between Christians and Jews. Religions don't have fights - followers of them do. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident. P.S. Oh, and I'll just point out that it wasn't Hitler who was directly responsible for the genocide. That's like saying Bush was directly responsible for the September 11th attacks.

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                        That was clearly based on religion, and was a fight between Christians and Jews. I thought fascists don't have any religion. // Fazlul


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                          Samantha, I am a Christian myself, and I have learned that that there are people here who are very venomous in their antireligious opinions. If you come across something here that offends you, the best thing to do is to ignore it. To do otherwise can lead to a flame war that can get nasty (some will even take it out of the lounge and send you personal hateful emails). So lighten up, learn to laugh at yourself, and see the humour in things. (Just some advice, do with it as you will:rose: ) As for that article, (language aside) I think it is a pretty accurate representation of how God must feel. I think He is very angry at us for all the evil things we do "in the name of God". But I also believe He is a loving and caring God, and as long as we follow His word to the best of our abilities, everything will turn out fine. --- It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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                          sAmAnThA
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                          "To do otherwise can lead to a flame war that can get nasty (some will even take it out of the lounge and send you personal hateful emails). " Don't worry PJ, I'm not a war freak person... :rolleyes: just a simple girl on the block.. "learn to laugh at yourself" Why would I laugh at myself? I don't look funny... but I can say I'm cute... ;P "and see the humour in things. (Just some advice, do with it as you will )" I can see loud and clear... ;) :rolleyes: "But I also believe He is a loving and caring God, and as long as we follow His word to the best of our abilities, everything will turn out fine. " I second the motion!! :rose: Samantha :rose:

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                            Lighten up, Samantha. Leaving alone for a moment the differences between Catholicism and Christianity, if you're not a 'very devoted' Catholic, then how can you get all self righteous because someone made a joke, especially one which makes a very valid point ? Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001

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                            "if you're not a 'very devoted' Catholic, then how can you get all self righteous because someone made a joke, especially one which makes a very valid point ?" Which makes a very valid point? Hey Christian! it's a lounge and everyone has it's own opinion and I'm just sharing my opinion, what I believe... I know that when the topic comes to religion it's a never ending debate.....which is why John is smart enough to put that link to lounge... ;) :rose: Samantha:rose:

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                              That was clearly based on religion, and was a fight between Christians and Jews. I thought fascists don't have any religion. // Fazlul


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                              David Wulff
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                              People are free to believe in whatever they want. If they have a need to justify something to themselves, then religion is the only way to go. Remember, that when it comes to god, no one can prove you wrong. That's the beauty of faith (and the one major flaw in the whole religion shenanigan). David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.

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                                That was clearly based on religion, and was a fight between Christians and Jews. I thought fascists don't have any religion. // Fazlul


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                                I am not sure I answered your question with my prior reply, so I will try again: The fact that you can define either side as haviing faith for a particular religion, makes it beased on religion. It's wasn't racial genocide, but religous genocide (though admitidly the Jews are a race in their own right). David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.

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                                • D David Wulff

                                  People are free to believe in whatever they want. If they have a need to justify something to themselves, then religion is the only way to go. Remember, that when it comes to god, no one can prove you wrong. That's the beauty of faith (and the one major flaw in the whole religion shenanigan). David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.

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                                  Fazlul Kabir
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                                  If they have a need to justify something to themselves, then religion is the only way to go ..if that is justified by the religion that person follows. // Fazlul


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                                    http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god\_clarifies\_dont\_kill.html "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Saw this weeks ago, I can't believe I didn't post a link myself. X| Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                      "if you're not a 'very devoted' Catholic, then how can you get all self righteous because someone made a joke, especially one which makes a very valid point ?" Which makes a very valid point? Hey Christian! it's a lounge and everyone has it's own opinion and I'm just sharing my opinion, what I believe... I know that when the topic comes to religion it's a never ending debate.....which is why John is smart enough to put that link to lounge... ;) :rose: Samantha:rose:

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                                      I meant the article makes a valid point about morons who think that God wants particular people to die and needs other people to help Him do it. You're welcome to share your opinion, I'm sharing mine. Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001

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                                      • F Fazlul Kabir

                                        If they have a need to justify something to themselves, then religion is the only way to go ..if that is justified by the religion that person follows. // Fazlul


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                                        David Wulff
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                                        Not necessarily. Who says what a religion allows? Does Christianity allow practicing homosexuals? Does Christianity allow you to fight in a war? Does Christianity allow you to lie with a beast as you would lie with a women? This is one of the points I always make: religion is open to interpretation by whoever finds the need for it. I could find evidence to condem and condone all of the examples I gave above, should I actually be bothered to. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.

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                                        • D David Wulff

                                          I am not sure I answered your question with my prior reply, so I will try again: The fact that you can define either side as haviing faith for a particular religion, makes it beased on religion. It's wasn't racial genocide, but religous genocide (though admitidly the Jews are a race in their own right). David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.

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                                          The fact that you can define either side as haviing faith for a particular religion, makes it beased on religion. It's wasn't racial genocide, but religous genocide (though admitidly the Jews are a race in their own right). Unfortunately, the Jews were in the recieving end of this genocide, but what about the Hitler and his fascist gang? Were they motivated by the any Christian doctrines? I don't think anybody would consider them as Christians. No? // Fazlul


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