IS LAUREN A BIGOT?
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Ummm... no? Perhaps a better question you should ask yourself is: "Why am I obsessed with Lauren?" Seriously - think about it. The nature of your post isn't just to vent a frustration - it is specifically to solicit other people to express ill-will toward an individual. It's not enough for you to feel negatively toward Lauren - you want other people to feel negatively about her too. Why? Even if you had a beef with someone, why would you want to solicit others to share in your negative experience? What good does that do for you? I'm not surprised by the response you've gotten. I think many would read your post and wonder more "What's this guy's problem?" rather than "Wow, that person he attacked is really a bigot."
Thank you for your well said and well thought-out post. It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. I have yet to see any post that successfully does so. Only attacks. But you have a good point. It was a wrong way to go about it. I sincerely apologize to you and everyone else and especially to lauren.
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I don't agree that it's just her opinion. Name-calling is not an opinion. It's bigotry. And calling someone a bigot is not name calling. It's factual.
Not necessarily. As a Transsexual Christian I know more about bigotry and intolerance in religion than many people, and what I saw was ill thought out opinionated remarks. Not bigotry by a long way. You both should also have posted in the Soapbox. This isn't the place. :rose: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Not necessarily. As a Transsexual Christian I know more about bigotry and intolerance in religion than many people, and what I saw was ill thought out opinionated remarks. Not bigotry by a long way. You both should also have posted in the Soapbox. This isn't the place. :rose: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
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posting anti-religous crap is bigotry in action
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Go find a definition of "bigot". An opinion, by it's very nature, cannot be proven or disproven in any sense of either term. An opinion is how someone feels about something, and may or may not be based on fact, experience, idea, intellect, or any other method by which they arrived at said opinion. A bigot is not simply someone that has an opinion which is wildly different from your own. I swear, the number of users that are registered here has significantly reduced the average IQ of the group as a whole. You're a bigger fuckin moron that I initially assumed and are probably a big contributer to the IQ drain... Lauren is much loved here, and anyone attacking her like this is going to call down the wrath of most of the other frequent users. Final point, dipshit - her post was in the soapbox, and you posting this crap in the lounge qualifies as stepping solidly on your dick. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
yes, this coming from someone who just wants to stick is dick in lauren. her post was not in the soapbox, but rather here in the lounge. i stand by what i said, that lauren is a hateful anti-religous extremist bigot.
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Go find a definition of "bigot". An opinion, by it's very nature, cannot be proven or disproven in any sense of either term. An opinion is how someone feels about something, and may or may not be based on fact, experience, idea, intellect, or any other method by which they arrived at said opinion. A bigot is not simply someone that has an opinion which is wildly different from your own. I swear, the number of users that are registered here has significantly reduced the average IQ of the group as a whole. You're a bigger fuckin moron that I initially assumed and are probably a big contributer to the IQ drain... Lauren is much loved here, and anyone attacking her like this is going to call down the wrath of most of the other frequent users. Final point, dipshit - her post was in the soapbox, and you posting this crap in the lounge qualifies as stepping solidly on your dick. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
yes, this coming from someone who just wants to stick is dick in lauren. her post was not in the soapbox, but rather here in the lounge. i stand by what i said, that lauren is a hateful anti-religous extremist bigot.
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Go find a definition of "bigot". An opinion, by it's very nature, cannot be proven or disproven in any sense of either term. An opinion is how someone feels about something, and may or may not be based on fact, experience, idea, intellect, or any other method by which they arrived at said opinion. A bigot is not simply someone that has an opinion which is wildly different from your own. I swear, the number of users that are registered here has significantly reduced the average IQ of the group as a whole. You're a bigger fuckin moron that I initially assumed and are probably a big contributer to the IQ drain... Lauren is much loved here, and anyone attacking her like this is going to call down the wrath of most of the other frequent users. Final point, dipshit - her post was in the soapbox, and you posting this crap in the lounge qualifies as stepping solidly on your dick. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
yes, this coming from someone who just wants to stick is dick in lauren. her post was not in the soapbox, but rather here in the lounge. i stand by what i said, that lauren is a hateful anti-religous extremist bigot.
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SOAPBOX - NOW!!!! :mad::mad::mad: Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
yes dear
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Christian Graus wrote: The Crusades, the KKK, Nazi Germany, child abuse by clery, Without going into this Laureen discussion, what religion caused Nazi Germany? Nazi means national socialism and they were driven by nationalism, not any religion. In fact, they were often quoting Darwin theory as a justification for their actions.
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I was under the impression that the anti Semetic part of Nazism was religiously motivated. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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I was under the impression that the anti Semetic part of Nazism was religiously motivated. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
not to pick nits, but it was actually a anti-religiously motivated. Like you said, Christian Graus wrote: the anti Semetic part of Nazism That's the "ultimate" place where anti-religiousity ends up.
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since i hang out in the lounge for light relief, to get away from the stresses of the day, and to chat with the few people here i have started to get to know i tend to ignore the "heavy" threads. as a result i don't have any direct dealings with Lauren, but she does seem capable of holding a reasoned opinion and partaking in an intelligent debate. i am not sure how often that happens, but i have seen it happen. in contrast your post lowers you in my eyes, thus raising the relative level of Lauren, and everyone else in the lounge i pay attention to. it just goes to show, the world can be a strange and mysterious place. zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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not to pick nits, but it was actually a anti-religiously motivated. Like you said, Christian Graus wrote: the anti Semetic part of Nazism That's the "ultimate" place where anti-religiousity ends up.
The KKK is a 'christian' organisation. I thought the Nazi motivation was the same. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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I was under the impression that the anti Semetic part of Nazism was religiously motivated. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote: I was under the impression that the anti Semetic part of Nazism was religiously motivated. In the case of Nazism, no. Although, it would be fair to add that in many other cases (Spain in 15th century, Ukraine in 17th, etc...) anti-Semitic movements were religiously motivated.
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Thank you for your well said and well thought-out post. It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. I have yet to see any post that successfully does so. Only attacks. But you have a good point. It was a wrong way to go about it. I sincerely apologize to you and everyone else and especially to lauren.
ahz wrote: It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. Hi there. I think you're fooling yourself with this statement. I don't mean that as an insult to you; rather, I think you have an opportunity here, should you choose to take it, to take a step back from this and seriously ask the question "Why did I feel it necessary to solicit negative feelings about this individual?". If you try to kid yourself by suggesting things like "I wanted someone to defend her" then you've talked yourself right out of that opportunity. You didn't want someone to defend her. You wanted other people to express the same negative feelings about her that you expressed. Seriously, take a good hard look at yourself over this, and I think you'll be the happier for it.
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The KKK is a 'christian' organisation. I thought the Nazi motivation was the same. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
No, there was no religion behind Nazism. Just a hate for all things jewish.
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Have you seen her profile ? She doesn't need help to LOOK good... Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
You know, if she were ever to post a picture in the 400X400 size range the page hits would bring the site to it's knees within seconds. Think the number of 500's are bad now...:rolleyes: ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!
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No, there was no religion behind Nazism. Just a hate for all things jewish.
Actually, the secular nationalist leaders took advantage of the religious xenophobia of the populace in offering the Jews as a scapegoat for Germany's economic and social ills since WWI. Religion was used, but just as a tool.
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ahz wrote: It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. Hi there. I think you're fooling yourself with this statement. I don't mean that as an insult to you; rather, I think you have an opportunity here, should you choose to take it, to take a step back from this and seriously ask the question "Why did I feel it necessary to solicit negative feelings about this individual?". If you try to kid yourself by suggesting things like "I wanted someone to defend her" then you've talked yourself right out of that opportunity. You didn't want someone to defend her. You wanted other people to express the same negative feelings about her that you expressed. Seriously, take a good hard look at yourself over this, and I think you'll be the happier for it.
Thanks for the advice. I'll take it under advisement.
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yes, this coming from someone who just wants to stick is dick in lauren. her post was not in the soapbox, but rather here in the lounge. i stand by what i said, that lauren is a hateful anti-religous extremist bigot.
Ah, excellent, I see we've stooped down to ad hominem attacks! Superb! Seriously, if you want to cross sabres with John, you're gonna have to ratchet the levels up a notch or two above this. ahz wrote: lauren is a hateful anti-religous extremist bigot. Wow, thanks for clarifying this. :wtf: ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!
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Thank you for your well said and well thought-out post. It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. I have yet to see any post that successfully does so. Only attacks. But you have a good point. It was a wrong way to go about it. I sincerely apologize to you and everyone else and especially to lauren.
ahz wrote: It actually wasn't my intent to solicit negative input toward lauren. That's the biggest bunch of bullshit I've heard in weeks! Get over yourself. You don't go posting in the lounge asking if an individual, by name no less, is a bigot and not expect people to interpret that as anything but a personal, negative, attack. The next thing you'll tell me is where all the WMD's are in Iraq. ahz wrote: Rather, I wanted someone to defend her and her point of view. No one's going to defend her because: 1) They don't need to, Lauren's a big girl, completely capable to matching wits with anyone here. 2) There's no need to. Lauren didn't post anything that needed defending. She posted a link of dubious intellectual quality (at least for myself, I thought it was kind of bogus), and expressed a personal opinion. Last time I checked, neither of those things were actions that needed defending. You're playing word games and getting off on the attention you're receiving. Grow up, this is the kind of kindergarten wordplay that Slashdot attracts, head over there if you want to troll. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!
