Lippman on VC++ .NET
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[sarcasm] Hell, real men still program in C or Fortran. Who needs this C++ stuff. Everyone who programs in C++ is just a sell out to the whole C++ industry. [/sarcasm] C#? I couldn't give a rat's ass about it. What is MS moves away from C++? I couldn't give a rat's ass about it. I will just switch to another compiler. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
[more-sarcasm] Real men don't use crud like windows they stick with the command line. [/more-sarcasm] Tim Smith wrote: C#? I couldn't give a rat's ass about it I agree so that is two rats arses now. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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John, remember... MS must use C and C++ to develop Windows itself, not to mention the various programs they write and maintain. When you can write an OS in .NET, maybe you'll have some concerns, but until then MS will still support unmanaged code. -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
I'm waiting for the announcment that MS has completely re-written Windows using Visual Basic. By some accounts, you'd think this has already happened. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Just exactly what type of applications do you create? Jason Gerard
Apps that don't need any of these fancy faggot languages. They have the balls to stand on their own without the crutches Microsoft supplies in the form of COM and Internet Exploder. These are men's applications - they got balls of steel - not afraid to look an end-user in the face and spit in his eyes!!! Arrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrr!!! Harrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! None of that foo-foo VB, Java, or C# fancy-pants pillow-biting crap for my apps, NO SIREEEE!!! "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I have the impression that mr Lippman knows very little about Windows programming with C++. I vote pro drink :beer:
With this release, however, there is no C++ support for RAD designers, such as those for Windows® Forms and Web Forms. Same old story!!! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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I'm waiting for the announcment that MS has completely re-written Windows using Visual Basic. By some accounts, you'd think this has already happened. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
Then we wont have any blue screens huh? We'll simply get a VB run time error. That'd be something I must say. When a VB run time error means your kernel has crashed. Of course the kernel and the system DLLs and the basic OS would probably be 6 GB and msvbm700.dll by itself would be 1 GB I guess Nish :-) Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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Fazlul Kabir wrote: He claims he's still in love with C++. Don't you think so? [especially if you're not a die-hard conspiracy theorist] The truth is out there, and the truth is he's on tour showing people how to use C#, he's writing books on C#, and he is undermining his position as token C++ guy day by day. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
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Well he did say that C++ guys should treat C# as the little brother and he also did say about how we shouldnt expect any more pats :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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[sarcasm] Hell, real men still program in C or Fortran. Who needs this C++ stuff. Everyone who programs in C++ is just a sell out to the whole C++ industry. [/sarcasm] C#? I couldn't give a rat's ass about it. What is MS moves away from C++? I couldn't give a rat's ass about it. I will just switch to another compiler. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
Tim Smith wrote: What is MS moves away from C++? I couldn't give a rat's ass about it. I will just switch to another compiler That's pretty cool. But how many other compilers are there with a fully GUI based development environment and with stuff similar to the class wizards and dialog resource editors and librariues like MFC and ATL? Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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[more-sarcasm] Real men don't use crud like windows they stick with the command line. [/more-sarcasm] Tim Smith wrote: C#? I couldn't give a rat's ass about it I agree so that is two rats arses now. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
Colin Davies wrote: I agree so that is two rats arses now. LOL Yeah, agreed! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut
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I stroungly doubt a compiler is able to compile Loki without support for partial template specialization, and to the best of my knowledge VC7 does not have PTS yet, so... I'll stop doubting when someone actually reports being able to compile Loki in VC7. As for me, I still haven't had the chance to get hold of the compiler, but if anyone has already installed it, the test is fairly simple, Loki is downloadable at http://www.moderncppdesign.com/. Joaquín M López Muñoz Telefónica, Investigación y Desarrollo
You misread what I said. Stanley Lipman has stated that the *NEXT* version (7.1) that is in development already compiles Boost and Loki. See his recent article in MSDN magazine where he states this. -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
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