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  • N Nish Nishant

    Chris Losinger wrote: yes, yes, i know: i'm not allowed to complain about the US. Sorry Chris L, I understand the reasons behind your sarcasm. But even a lowly worker in the US who makes a pittance of 1K/month still earns more than twice what the average software engineer makes in India :-) Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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    then you guys should charge more. -c


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      Nish, What are your dreams? What do you want to do with your life? What's holding you back from accomplishing those things? What can your friends at CP contribute to assist you in acheiving them?

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      Can you imagine life without :- (1) a car for each grown up in the family (2) more than one computer in the house (3) DSL/Cable/T1/T3 (4) having visited a foreign country (5) a credit card with a decent credit limit (6) centralized air conditioning (7) air travel (8) DVD movies The list is only partial, quite partial as a matter of fact... Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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        The four choices (1)fix your environment (2)move (3)learn to like your environment (4)do nothing and grumble I'll do (2) first. By then I'd automatically do (3). Then I'd come back and do (1) And while I am at (1)(2)(3) I'll idle myself in (4) once in a while. Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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        Good priorities, Nish. Avoid the impossible, do what you can for yourself, take your new abilities and apply them in a way that might help where you came from, then rest on the seventh day. I think there's hope for you, lad!

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          then you guys should charge more. -c


          Smaller Animals Software, Inc. You're the icing - on the cake - on the table - at my wake. Modest Mouse

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          Nish Nishant
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          Chris Losinger wrote: then you guys should charge more. Not possible. When more than half the country is below poverty, there will be thousands willing to work for less. Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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            Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I shall strive to cross the abominabilities thrust upon me by my 3rd world nationality and I shall conquer. And you shall all be witness to that. The 3rd worlder who dared to dream and conquer his dream. That will be me – Nish. You've got the right idea, Nish. I believe it was Andy Dufresne who said, "Get busy living, or get busy dying." Jon Sagara What about :bob:? Sonork ID: 100.9999 jonsagara

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            Jon Sagara wrote: You've got the right idea, Nish. I believe it was Andy Dufresne who said, "Get busy living, or get busy dying." That sounds fine :-) Very logical in fact. It's like :- Live or Die, but don't do the in-between-stuff. Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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              Everyone dreams. Everyone. Even someone as pitiable and scornful as a 3rd wordler. I dream too. Dreaming is easy. Then what is it that separates a few. That makes some people stand out. Well that’s something too. Its called realization of dreams. Will I realize my dreams? Will I ever achieve what I wanted to achieve ever since I was old enough to say my name? Or will I suffer the same fate as any other 3rd worlder? I know some Indians are successful in life. But these are the elite and rich upper class. They have the money power to get them out of India. What about me? I can imagine myself born in a developed place. I believe that if I was born in some computer aware place, say SF, I’d have conquered my dreams by now. I’d have got an exposure which is only fantasy now to me. I’d have been rich and successful and contended. Why has fortune been cruel to me? It’s particularly painful to me. Simply because I was not destined thus, to be a piece of crap in a world of nothingness. But there is hope, as is always so. I don’t remember who it was who said that, but to hope is to live. And so it shall be with me. I shall strive to cross the abominabilities thrust upon me by my 3rd world nationality and I shall conquer. And you shall all be witness to that. The 3rd worlder who dared to dream and conquer his dream. That will be me – Nish. CPUA # 0x0666 Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org

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              Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I shall strive to cross the abominabilities thrust upon me by my 3rd world nationality and I shall conquer. And you shall all be witness to that. The 3rd worlder who dared to dream and conquer his dream. That will be me – Nish. You've got the right idea, Nish. I believe it was Andy Dufresne who said, "Get busy living, or get busy dying." Jon Sagara What about :bob:? Sonork ID: 100.9999 jonsagara

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                Stan Shannon wrote: It was the first name that popped into my mind. I'd have been a lot more happier, if the first name that popped into your mind was TRIVANDRUM. Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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                I have to defend Stan, Nish. Most of us in the US are geographical morons. We're taught world geography, but with the unstated but obvious footnote that it isn't very important; pass the course and forget it. An unfortunate situation, but being involved with this group is helping me to overcome the handicap. I've actually spent some time on the Trivandrum promotional website, learned approximately where it is, and viewed the hotel listing. Singular. No competition. It is trying hard to promote itself as a technology center, and I think that's great. With people like you to draw upon, they should do well. But is that any reason for you to stick around and wait for it to happen? No.

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                  Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: What about me? I can imagine myself born in a developed place. I believe that if I was born in some computer aware place, say SF, I’d have conquered my dreams by now. I’d have got an exposure which is only fantasy now to me. I’d have been rich and successful and contended Very eloquent Nish, My experience has shown me however that folk who are unhappy in the 3rd world when transfered to the 1st world remain unhappy although for entirely new reasons. Thought for thought. Happiness is a state of mind. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  Most people should stick to calculators, Isaac Sasson 28 th Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr# Segmentation violation -- Core dumped

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                  Colin Davies wrote: folk who are unhappy in the 3rd world when transfered to the 1st world remain unhappy although for entirely new reasons. Very astute observation...

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                    Good priorities, Nish. Avoid the impossible, do what you can for yourself, take your new abilities and apply them in a way that might help where you came from, then rest on the seventh day. I think there's hope for you, lad!

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                    Roger Wright [CPUA 0x0004] wrote: then rest on the seventh day. When do I get to say the let-there-be-light bit? Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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                      Can you imagine life without :- (1) a car for each grown up in the family (2) more than one computer in the house (3) DSL/Cable/T1/T3 (4) having visited a foreign country (5) a credit card with a decent credit limit (6) centralized air conditioning (7) air travel (8) DVD movies The list is only partial, quite partial as a matter of fact... Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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                      As a matter of fact, I have lived that life. Yes, I can imagine it, and it's not pleasant. If you read my earliest threads, you know that in the past ten years I have had to rebuild my life totally from scratch. It's been a grim journey, and it's nowhere near complete. But here it can be done. I doubt that such opportunity is available to you there, my friend, and I am sympathetic to your cause. I wish you well on your journey, and I think you have what it takes to make it happen. Go to it! PS - Pass on SF. It sucks...

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                        As a matter of fact, I have lived that life. Yes, I can imagine it, and it's not pleasant. If you read my earliest threads, you know that in the past ten years I have had to rebuild my life totally from scratch. It's been a grim journey, and it's nowhere near complete. But here it can be done. I doubt that such opportunity is available to you there, my friend, and I am sympathetic to your cause. I wish you well on your journey, and I think you have what it takes to make it happen. Go to it! PS - Pass on SF. It sucks...

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                        Roger Wright [CPUA 0x0004] wrote: PS - Pass on SF. It sucks... LOL I mentioned SF cause that's where my company's head quarters is. Actually it is Palo Alto which I believe is near SF or is part of SF. Dunno! Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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                        • C Chris Losinger

                          ...Raleigh, NC. lots of hi-tech, nice weather, nice people. sadly, no jobs right now. but that could change someday. -c


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                          Looking at the online job listings, NC looks like a hot bed of development activity compared to Indiana. It is one of the places I have actually considered going to to find contract work. "There's a slew of slip 'twixt cup and lip"

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Hey Kannan Recently a kannanis@yahoo added me. I added him back. That's you right? Havent seen him[you] online since then. Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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                            Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Recently a kannanis@yahoo added me. I added him back. That's you right? Havent seen him[you] online since then Yupe that was me Nish. I can come online only from my home. The popular IMs are blocked at my place and couldnt get sonork working behind my office firewall (but its not blocked), any idea on how to configure sonork for the firewall. Cheers Kannan

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                              Roger Wright [CPUA 0x0004] wrote: PS - Pass on SF. It sucks... LOL I mentioned SF cause that's where my company's head quarters is. Actually it is Palo Alto which I believe is near SF or is part of SF. Dunno! Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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                              They all run together up there - it's all uniformly awful - wall-to-wall people. You've gotten enough of that overcrowding crap where you are. Try some wide open space for a change; you'll never be able to understand how anyone can live in a city after you've lived outside of one for a time.

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                              • K Kannan Kalyanaraman

                                Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Recently a kannanis@yahoo added me. I added him back. That's you right? Havent seen him[you] online since then Yupe that was me Nish. I can come online only from my home. The popular IMs are blocked at my place and couldnt get sonork working behind my office firewall (but its not blocked), any idea on how to configure sonork for the firewall. Cheers Kannan

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                                Kannan Kalyanaraman wrote: Yupe that was me Nish. I can come online only from my home Okay :-) Kannan Kalyanaraman wrote: The popular IMs are blocked at my place and couldnt get sonork working behind my office firewall (but its not blocked), any idea on how to configure sonork for the firewall. I am behind a NAT firewall. I didnt have to do any tweaking to sonork. Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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                                  Everyone dreams. Everyone. Even someone as pitiable and scornful as a 3rd wordler. I dream too. Dreaming is easy. Then what is it that separates a few. That makes some people stand out. Well that’s something too. Its called realization of dreams. Will I realize my dreams? Will I ever achieve what I wanted to achieve ever since I was old enough to say my name? Or will I suffer the same fate as any other 3rd worlder? I know some Indians are successful in life. But these are the elite and rich upper class. They have the money power to get them out of India. What about me? I can imagine myself born in a developed place. I believe that if I was born in some computer aware place, say SF, I’d have conquered my dreams by now. I’d have got an exposure which is only fantasy now to me. I’d have been rich and successful and contended. Why has fortune been cruel to me? It’s particularly painful to me. Simply because I was not destined thus, to be a piece of crap in a world of nothingness. But there is hope, as is always so. I don’t remember who it was who said that, but to hope is to live. And so it shall be with me. I shall strive to cross the abominabilities thrust upon me by my 3rd world nationality and I shall conquer. And you shall all be witness to that. The 3rd worlder who dared to dream and conquer his dream. That will be me – Nish. CPUA # 0x0666 Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org

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                                  Good luck to ya.

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                                    Good luck to ya.

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Brit wrote: Good luck to ya. Thank You :-) Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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                                      Everyone dreams. Everyone. Even someone as pitiable and scornful as a 3rd wordler. I dream too. Dreaming is easy. Then what is it that separates a few. That makes some people stand out. Well that’s something too. Its called realization of dreams. Will I realize my dreams? Will I ever achieve what I wanted to achieve ever since I was old enough to say my name? Or will I suffer the same fate as any other 3rd worlder? I know some Indians are successful in life. But these are the elite and rich upper class. They have the money power to get them out of India. What about me? I can imagine myself born in a developed place. I believe that if I was born in some computer aware place, say SF, I’d have conquered my dreams by now. I’d have got an exposure which is only fantasy now to me. I’d have been rich and successful and contended. Why has fortune been cruel to me? It’s particularly painful to me. Simply because I was not destined thus, to be a piece of crap in a world of nothingness. But there is hope, as is always so. I don’t remember who it was who said that, but to hope is to live. And so it shall be with me. I shall strive to cross the abominabilities thrust upon me by my 3rd world nationality and I shall conquer. And you shall all be witness to that. The 3rd worlder who dared to dream and conquer his dream. That will be me – Nish. CPUA # 0x0666 Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org

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                                      Hmmm, dunno what to think about your dream Nish. I think you can do a whole lot more right where you are. I've never quite understood "thirdworlders" fascination with living in the West. I'm in Africa and I'm staying right here, hopefully I can make a small difference. That's MY dream. So I must say with all due respect that when you say fortune has been cruel to you, well it hurts a little. You have food in your stomach and a roof over your head. I think you should be just a little more grateful for that. Millions of people have neither where I come from and indeed where YOU come from. But maybe all this is redundant because I suppose you COULD go to SF and be able to help out more as a result. But if it never happens, don't be so hard on yourself, you have alot to be thankful for, trust me. :-) Good luck!! Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky

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                                        Senkwe I am very well aware of the fact that there must be 4 billion on earth worse off than I am. But I dont intend to compare myself with people below me. I am looking at the other 2 billion. I will only compare myself with people better off than me, for that's the only way to drive my ambition on... Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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                                        Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: But I dont intend to compare myself with people below me I don't know what that means, lets just hope it's one of those things that didn't "come out right" because no one is below or above anyone else. Some people are just luckier than others. All I'm saying is that you're one of the lucky ones. Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky

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                                          Hmmm, dunno what to think about your dream Nish. I think you can do a whole lot more right where you are. I've never quite understood "thirdworlders" fascination with living in the West. I'm in Africa and I'm staying right here, hopefully I can make a small difference. That's MY dream. So I must say with all due respect that when you say fortune has been cruel to you, well it hurts a little. You have food in your stomach and a roof over your head. I think you should be just a little more grateful for that. Millions of people have neither where I come from and indeed where YOU come from. But maybe all this is redundant because I suppose you COULD go to SF and be able to help out more as a result. But if it never happens, don't be so hard on yourself, you have alot to be thankful for, trust me. :-) Good luck!! Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky

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                                          Senkwe I am very well aware of the fact that there must be 4 billion on earth worse off than I am. But I dont intend to compare myself with people below me. I am looking at the other 2 billion. I will only compare myself with people better off than me, for that's the only way to drive my ambition on... Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org

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