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  • C Christian Graus

    OK, so I have my new 64 bit dual core machine ( AMD 4400 + ). I installed XP 64 bit on it. Bad move. It's useless, even the DVD drive wouldn't work. So, I looked through my MSDN discs, and all I could find was Server 2003 Standard. So, I install that. No drivers for my video cards work here, either. So, I finally find an XP Pro CD, and install that. Now, the PC has rebooted to finish installation, but it won't boot, it shows the XP loading screen for a second, then goes black. Forever. And I still need to install Visual Studio ( 6 and 2005 ), Office, and all the other programs I rely on to get from day to day.

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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    I feel your pain. :rose: We're about to go through the same experience - the machine (an Athlon x2 5000) is on order, and once it arrives (it should be pre-installed with XP Pro) the boot drive is being moved into a SATA caddy so we can play the multi-boot game with minimal risk. On top of that we've three new 320GB SATA disks ready - currently the plan is to use one for data, one for Vista and the other for Win2k3. :cool: We'll probably dabble with XP64 at some point, but most likely only inside a VM to see how well our software copes with it. We've not had any support queries regarding XP64 yet, so it's not a huge priority I suspect. As usual I'm not looking forward to installing all the dev tools though - to support our testing we'll need VS6, eVC4.0, VS2002, VS2003 and VS2005, although we use VS2003 for the vast majority of our work.

    Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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    • K karthik Tamizhmathi

      Microsoft guys never had forsee. They thought that America is the only country in the world. English is the only Language in the world. They are the only intelligent in the world. Now these things are totally failed.

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      karthikoncodeproject wrote:

      Microsoft guys never had forsee. They thought that America is the only country in the world. English is the only Language in the world. They are the only intelligent in the world. Now these things are totally failed.

      Ok, hippie, drop the pipe and go hug a tree... -- modified at 10:02 Tuesday 1st August, 2006

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      • M Michael P Butler

        karthikoncodeproject wrote:

        They thought that America is the only country in the world. English is the only Language in the world.

        Complete bollocks. Microsoft work harder than any big company I know to ensure their software works the same for every country in the world. They won't release products until they have localization for the main languages and countries.

        Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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        Vikram A Punathambekar
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        While I think Karthik was shooting off his mouth, your statement is at the other extreme. :) You have versions of Windows/Office for languages that spoken by only a few millions, but they have no* Indian language versions. Many of these languages have 50 million+ speakers. I do recall some news about a Hindi version of Windows, but I don't know if it came out. * Not that I care personally - I can't imagine using a Hindi, or even Marathi (my native tongue) version of Windows over an English version. :rolleyes:

        š Cheers, Vikram.


        I don't know and you don't either.    Militant Agnostic

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        • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

          I feel your pain. :rose: We're about to go through the same experience - the machine (an Athlon x2 5000) is on order, and once it arrives (it should be pre-installed with XP Pro) the boot drive is being moved into a SATA caddy so we can play the multi-boot game with minimal risk. On top of that we've three new 320GB SATA disks ready - currently the plan is to use one for data, one for Vista and the other for Win2k3. :cool: We'll probably dabble with XP64 at some point, but most likely only inside a VM to see how well our software copes with it. We've not had any support queries regarding XP64 yet, so it's not a huge priority I suspect. As usual I'm not looking forward to installing all the dev tools though - to support our testing we'll need VS6, eVC4.0, VS2002, VS2003 and VS2005, although we use VS2003 for the vast majority of our work.

          Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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          I have windows x64 installed with Visual Studio 2005 IIS6 ASP.NET 2.0 with the x64 SDK AND Sql Server 2005 x64. The Problem: If you want to use Reporting Services for example, well, you have to install the x86 SDK, so, you'll have to install all the rest in x84 X| , because if you have the db in the same computer it will not work with x64 Sql and x86 Reporting Services & SDK..... So..... Big regrets, I spent like 800U$S, I should have bought a nice x86 PC... :doh: Anyway...

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          • V Vikram A Punathambekar

            While I think Karthik was shooting off his mouth, your statement is at the other extreme. :) You have versions of Windows/Office for languages that spoken by only a few millions, but they have no* Indian language versions. Many of these languages have 50 million+ speakers. I do recall some news about a Hindi version of Windows, but I don't know if it came out. * Not that I care personally - I can't imagine using a Hindi, or even Marathi (my native tongue) version of Windows over an English version. :rolleyes:

            š Cheers, Vikram.


            I don't know and you don't either.    Militant Agnostic

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            The current plan seems to be to install the US English version of Windows, then install a Language Interface Pack for the language you're interested in. The localised version is fully translated while a LIP is approximately 80% translated (so they say). Microsoft don't seem to be adding that many new localised versions, but they are working on new LIPs. I subscribe to Michael Kaplan's blog[^]. He often posts when a new LIP is completed and available for download. See here[^] for his description of a LIP. To download a specific one, go to http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0db2e8f9-79c4-4625-a07a-0cc1b341be7c&displaylang=en[^] and change the 'Language' drop-down to the one you want.

            Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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            • C Christian Graus

              OK, so I have my new 64 bit dual core machine ( AMD 4400 + ). I installed XP 64 bit on it. Bad move. It's useless, even the DVD drive wouldn't work. So, I looked through my MSDN discs, and all I could find was Server 2003 Standard. So, I install that. No drivers for my video cards work here, either. So, I finally find an XP Pro CD, and install that. Now, the PC has rebooted to finish installation, but it won't boot, it shows the XP loading screen for a second, then goes black. Forever. And I still need to install Visual Studio ( 6 and 2005 ), Office, and all the other programs I rely on to get from day to day.

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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              That's the big problem with 64-bit on desktop machines - lack of drivers. It's great on servers that run with tons of memory and 64-bit server apps, but on normal work machines, not so much. When I got my Athlon laptop, I didn't even consider using a 64-bit OS on it.

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