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Athlon 64 3400 vs Pentium 4 3.0?

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    Rocky Moore
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    Which type of system do you think would be the best bang? I am builind a termporary system that will last until second quarter of 2007 when I will upgrade to a new MS Vista system (probably a duo).

    Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba

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      Which type of system do you think would be the best bang? I am builind a termporary system that will last until second quarter of 2007 when I will upgrade to a new MS Vista system (probably a duo).

      Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      Find it out yourslef:) http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html[^]


      Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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        Which type of system do you think would be the best bang? I am builind a termporary system that will last until second quarter of 2007 when I will upgrade to a new MS Vista system (probably a duo).

        Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba

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        Stuart Dootson
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        If it's for development, I'd go with the Athlon...and even if it isn't, I'd go Athlon anyway. Are these systems significantly cheaper than a Core 2 Duo system?

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          Find it out yourslef:) http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html[^]


          Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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          Orhun Birsoy
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          I wish they had a Visual Studio benchmark like compiling a big project. Although compilation might be affected by other components like hard disk access, which benchmark do you think will give a better idea about the performance of compilation?

          Orhun Birsoy

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            Which type of system do you think would be the best bang? I am builind a termporary system that will last until second quarter of 2007 when I will upgrade to a new MS Vista system (probably a duo).

            Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba

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            Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar
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            get yourself 8 x 3.0GHZ itanium cpu's and solaris 10.1


            You don't see a WTF in spawning hundreds of threads ?? Or using code found on places like codeproject.com in production applications ... Code that is most likely untested, or barely test, more often than not, not made by reputable developers/development groups/etc ?? .... Wow ...---WTF

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              If it's for development, I'd go with the Athlon...and even if it isn't, I'd go Athlon anyway. Are these systems significantly cheaper than a Core 2 Duo system?

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              Rocky Moore
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              Stuart Dootson wrote:

              Are these systems significantly cheaper than a Core 2 Duo system?

              Yep, motherboard/cpu/memory packages are several hundred less. Since it is just temporary until next year's major upgrades, I plan to keep it as cheap as possible while still having a little punch.

              Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba

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              • O Orhun Birsoy

                I wish they had a Visual Studio benchmark like compiling a big project. Although compilation might be affected by other components like hard disk access, which benchmark do you think will give a better idea about the performance of compilation?

                Orhun Birsoy

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                ed welch
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                the office productivity benchmarks

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                • S Stuart Dootson

                  If it's for development, I'd go with the Athlon...and even if it isn't, I'd go Athlon anyway. Are these systems significantly cheaper than a Core 2 Duo system?

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                  You should be able to get a fairly decient core 2 (E6300) for about $500 sans monitor

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    Find it out yourslef:) http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html[^]


                    Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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                    Rocky Moore
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                    Toms Hardware can be hard to read at times. They have lots of tests, but most seem to oppose each other. Most of the time, it is still a coin toss.. I figured if I asked here, there would be some developers that had experience with these chips, as development machines. Thanks for the link!

                    Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba

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                      Which type of system do you think would be the best bang? I am builind a termporary system that will last until second quarter of 2007 when I will upgrade to a new MS Vista system (probably a duo).

                      Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba

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                      For a cheap system, I'd go with an Athlon 64 3500+ and an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum MB. (These are the core of my system and are now about $215 cheaper than when I bought them 18 months ago.)

                      Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                      • O Orhun Birsoy

                        I wish they had a Visual Studio benchmark like compiling a big project. Although compilation might be affected by other components like hard disk access, which benchmark do you think will give a better idea about the performance of compilation?

                        Orhun Birsoy

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                        Stuart Dootson
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                        This[^], although a couple of years old, shows how much faster an Athlon 64 is at compiling code than a Pentium 4 - and I can confirm the figures (roughly) from my experience with Athlon 64 and Pentium 4!

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                          Toms Hardware can be hard to read at times. They have lots of tests, but most seem to oppose each other. Most of the time, it is still a coin toss.. I figured if I asked here, there would be some developers that had experience with these chips, as development machines. Thanks for the link!

                          Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba

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                          Stuart Dootson
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                          Rocky Moore wrote:

                          I figured if I asked here, there would be some developers that had experience with these chips, as development machines.

                          Rocky - I've had said experience - I've found an Athlon64 3400+ to take around 2/3 the time to build (C++) projects that a Pentium 4 3GHz does. These timings were repeatable, so I would definitely recommend the Athlon.

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                            Rocky Moore wrote:

                            I figured if I asked here, there would be some developers that had experience with these chips, as development machines.

                            Rocky - I've had said experience - I've found an Athlon64 3400+ to take around 2/3 the time to build (C++) projects that a Pentium 4 3GHz does. These timings were repeatable, so I would definitely recommend the Athlon.

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                            Rocky Moore
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                            Thanks!

                            Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba

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                              Rocky Moore wrote:

                              I figured if I asked here, there would be some developers that had experience with these chips, as development machines.

                              Rocky - I've had said experience - I've found an Athlon64 3400+ to take around 2/3 the time to build (C++) projects that a Pentium 4 3GHz does. These timings were repeatable, so I would definitely recommend the Athlon.

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                              John M Drescher
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                              I have the same experience as Stuart and I would like to add the the Athlon64 will also do this consuming 1/2 to 2/3 of the power of the Pentium4 3Ghz.

                              John

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                              • R Rocky Moore

                                Which type of system do you think would be the best bang? I am builind a termporary system that will last until second quarter of 2007 when I will upgrade to a new MS Vista system (probably a duo).

                                Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba

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                                Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                I routinely use three "legacy" systems: an Athlon XP 2500 (1GB RAM), a P4/3GHz (1GB RAM) and a P4M/2GHz notebook (1.25GB RAM). Of them, the P4 desktop is by far the slowest. It's no contest - go for the Athlon.

                                Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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