Question about MSDN Subscriptions
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I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription? Thanks for any information.
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I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription? Thanks for any information.
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Renewals are the same price as the original purchase. If MS thought they could get away with it, they would charge us double for a renewal. I remember when MSDN was $600 for the whole shebang. Today, that same shebang costs $2400 or something stupid like that.
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I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription? Thanks for any information.
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Dario Solera wrote:
I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription?
Roughly the same as a new subscription, but it is very rare that you'll want to subscribe every-year. Microsoft just doesn't update their tools enough to justify the cost anymore. Back in the day, when it was the only way to get access to the MSDN library and SDK's, then the cost was worth it but now I can get that from the internet. I had a Universal subscription which I let lapse until the beginning of last year when VS2005 came out. If I'd have renewed for the missing years, I'd have spent a lot of money and not got anything useable out of it. As the next release of VS2005 or even the service packs don't seem to be on the horizion, I'll be thinking twice about renewing in Jan.
Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Dario Solera wrote:
I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription?
Roughly the same as a new subscription, but it is very rare that you'll want to subscribe every-year. Microsoft just doesn't update their tools enough to justify the cost anymore. Back in the day, when it was the only way to get access to the MSDN library and SDK's, then the cost was worth it but now I can get that from the internet. I had a Universal subscription which I let lapse until the beginning of last year when VS2005 came out. If I'd have renewed for the missing years, I'd have spent a lot of money and not got anything useable out of it. As the next release of VS2005 or even the service packs don't seem to be on the horizion, I'll be thinking twice about renewing in Jan.
Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
I had a Universal subscription which I let lapse
Unfortunately, in my corporate world, it's difficult to do that. It's such a PITA to justify an original purchase, it's much easier to simply renew it every year. Even the renewals are handled poorly. A couple of years ago there was a rebate offer of $300 on a renewal when you switched from CD's to DVD's. When I got the rebate check, I couldn't find anyone to accept the check :wtf:. Nobody knew how to handle it. After a month of trying, including talking to the CFO, it ended up in the shredder.
Software Zen:
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Michael P Butler wrote:
I had a Universal subscription which I let lapse
Unfortunately, in my corporate world, it's difficult to do that. It's such a PITA to justify an original purchase, it's much easier to simply renew it every year. Even the renewals are handled poorly. A couple of years ago there was a rebate offer of $300 on a renewal when you switched from CD's to DVD's. When I got the rebate check, I couldn't find anyone to accept the check :wtf:. Nobody knew how to handle it. After a month of trying, including talking to the CFO, it ended up in the shredder.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
it ended up in the shredder
:wtf: :omg: Do you work for a large company?
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
it ended up in the shredder
:wtf: :omg: Do you work for a large company?
It sounds like he works in the public sector?
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It sounds like he works in the public sector?
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkROTFL !!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I should have guessed!
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Dario Solera wrote:
I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription?
Roughly the same as a new subscription, but it is very rare that you'll want to subscribe every-year. Microsoft just doesn't update their tools enough to justify the cost anymore. Back in the day, when it was the only way to get access to the MSDN library and SDK's, then the cost was worth it but now I can get that from the internet. I had a Universal subscription which I let lapse until the beginning of last year when VS2005 came out. If I'd have renewed for the missing years, I'd have spent a lot of money and not got anything useable out of it. As the next release of VS2005 or even the service packs don't seem to be on the horizion, I'll be thinking twice about renewing in Jan.
Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
But if I don't renew the subscription, all the available software cannot be used anymore, right?
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But if I don't renew the subscription, all the available software cannot be used anymore, right?
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You can continue to use the software you received during the subscription time: MSDN FAQ[^] My subscription will expire end of this year, does anyone know if the download site stays available for me? (I guess it won't...) Do I have to download everything (that I'm interested in) over my crappy 512 KB/s line? I don't know if I'll still get the DVD shipment containing Vista+Office...
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You can continue to use the software you received during the subscription time: MSDN FAQ[^] My subscription will expire end of this year, does anyone know if the download site stays available for me? (I guess it won't...) Do I have to download everything (that I'm interested in) over my crappy 512 KB/s line? I don't know if I'll still get the DVD shipment containing Vista+Office...
Daniel Grunwald wrote:
You can continue to use the software you received during the subscription time: MSDN FAQ[^]
Wow, that's nice. So I might consider subscribing. Thanks.
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
it ended up in the shredder
:wtf: :omg: Do you work for a large company?
When this particular event took place, we were the largest business unit (we had about 700) within a company of about 1500 people or so. Since then we've been sold to Eastman Kodak.
Software Zen:
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It sounds like he works in the public sector?
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
he works in the public sector
Hey! This is the Lounge; that's downright disgusting. Truth be told, I spent a fair amount of time as a defense contractor, which, God willing, I will never do again. The type of work was OK (lots of simulations), but I hated the fact that my work always seemed to end up on a shelf somewhere very shortly after I finished it.
Software Zen:
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You can continue to use the software you received during the subscription time: MSDN FAQ[^] My subscription will expire end of this year, does anyone know if the download site stays available for me? (I guess it won't...) Do I have to download everything (that I'm interested in) over my crappy 512 KB/s line? I don't know if I'll still get the DVD shipment containing Vista+Office...
AFAIK the download site will cease a few months after your subscription does. For a period I had two overlapping subscriptions but the id assigned to the first is no longer valid. Whether the 'few months after' is intentional, or merely the time the old id was purged I cannot tell you, but I really would not expect the site to stay available once your subscription ends.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
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AFAIK the download site will cease a few months after your subscription does. For a period I had two overlapping subscriptions but the id assigned to the first is no longer valid. Whether the 'few months after' is intentional, or merely the time the old id was purged I cannot tell you, but I really would not expect the site to stay available once your subscription ends.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
Whether the 'few months after' is intentional
It could be. So that customers are given time to renew their subscription and not be interrupted unnecessarily.
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David Wulff wrote:
he works in the public sector
Hey! This is the Lounge; that's downright disgusting. Truth be told, I spent a fair amount of time as a defense contractor, which, God willing, I will never do again. The type of work was OK (lots of simulations), but I hated the fact that my work always seemed to end up on a shelf somewhere very shortly after I finished it.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
to end up on a shelf
That is annoying. :sigh: Just like the "let's use that money or else the budget will be cut".
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I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription? Thanks for any information.
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Have you looked at Empower ISV? It is MSDN for small ISV applitations. At least in Mexico, I get 5 licenses for $560 USD per year (all of them). You can only renew once, and the third year you must pay full price. Search for Microsoft Empower ISV in Google.
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I just looked at the price of a MSDN Subscription (Professional) at a local reseller, and it's available at about 1,500 Euros for 1-year subscription. I wasn't able to find any info about renewals. How much do they cost usually? The same as a new subscription? Thanks for any information.
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I bought my MSDN Professional subscription straight from MS. The first year cost me $1200, and the renewal was $800 this year. I don't know what translates into Euros, but it was 1/3 less for the renewal. Still a rip-off, but hey, what can ya do? According to MSDN, for the Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition with MSDN Professional Subscription (what used to be just the MSDN Professional) is 1.284,00 € for the full, 855,00 € for the renewal.
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I bought my MSDN Professional subscription straight from MS. The first year cost me $1200, and the renewal was $800 this year. I don't know what translates into Euros, but it was 1/3 less for the renewal. Still a rip-off, but hey, what can ya do? According to MSDN, for the Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition with MSDN Professional Subscription (what used to be just the MSDN Professional) is 1.284,00 € for the full, 855,00 € for the renewal.
FlamTaps wrote:
The first year cost me $1200, and the renewal was $800 this year
:wtf::mad: Why is it so cheap? It should be, at the current change rate, 923 Euros for a new subscription and 615 Euros for renewal. Bastards.
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FlamTaps wrote:
The first year cost me $1200, and the renewal was $800 this year
:wtf::mad: Why is it so cheap? It should be, at the current change rate, 923 Euros for a new subscription and 615 Euros for renewal. Bastards.
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Dario Solera wrote:
It should be, at the current change rate, 923 Euros for a new subscription and 615 Euros for renewal.
I half wonder if there isn't a EU tax that has to be paid. :~ As well all know taxes are passed on to the consumer.
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