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    Bradml
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    I have found that a lot of the articles on CP cover rather useful things. I personally like to read books etc. when learning a new technique, but that is because CP does not provide great information for PHP devs (but if we had our own forum....), but I was wondering if you .Net guys prefer CP to books with regards to new techniques etc. I do make a point to read the C++ articles though.

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      I have found that a lot of the articles on CP cover rather useful things. I personally like to read books etc. when learning a new technique, but that is because CP does not provide great information for PHP devs (but if we had our own forum....), but I was wondering if you .Net guys prefer CP to books with regards to new techniques etc. I do make a point to read the C++ articles though.

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      Jon Sagara
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      It's not one or the other. I use both.

      Jon Sagara Kittens give Morbo gas. -- Morbo Blog | Site | Articles

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        It's not one or the other. I use both.

        Jon Sagara Kittens give Morbo gas. -- Morbo Blog | Site | Articles

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        Bradml
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        What is your prefernece though?


        Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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          I have found that a lot of the articles on CP cover rather useful things. I personally like to read books etc. when learning a new technique, but that is because CP does not provide great information for PHP devs (but if we had our own forum....), but I was wondering if you .Net guys prefer CP to books with regards to new techniques etc. I do make a point to read the C++ articles though.

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          Jonathan Darka
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          I'd second a PHP section but I think too many here prefer ASP....


          Jonathan Wilkes Darka [Xanya.net]

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            I'd second a PHP section but I think too many here prefer ASP....


            Jonathan Wilkes Darka [Xanya.net]

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            I am in the works of devising a devilishy evil plan, to make an offer Chris CAN'T refuse! I am thinking I will trade Kyle's head for a PHP forum.


            Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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              I am in the works of devising a devilishy evil plan, to make an offer Chris CAN'T refuse! I am thinking I will trade Kyle's head for a PHP forum.


              Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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              Jonathan Darka
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              Bradml wrote:

              I am thinking I will trade Kyle's head for a PHP forum.

              Sounds like a good deal to me!:)


              Jonathan Wilkes Darka [Xanya.net]

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                What is your prefernece though?


                Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                Jon Sagara
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                I don't absolutely prefer one over the other. They each have their place.

                Jon Sagara Kittens give Morbo gas. -- Morbo Blog | Site | Articles

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                  I have found that a lot of the articles on CP cover rather useful things. I personally like to read books etc. when learning a new technique, but that is because CP does not provide great information for PHP devs (but if we had our own forum....), but I was wondering if you .Net guys prefer CP to books with regards to new techniques etc. I do make a point to read the C++ articles though.

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  Bradml wrote:

                  but I was wondering if you .Net guys prefer CP to books with regards to new techniques etc.

                  I've found that most technical books are so dumbed down that they are worthless. I don't know who buys these things, and I don't know why publishers have decided that the primary audience is the neophyte. Actually, I do know why--because technical people aren't the best writers, but in my limited experience, publishers provide editors that are even less technical. The result is a useless book. But who buys them is a mystery to me still. So, I tend to look only at very technical books, typically written by the creator of the technology/language. Another disqualifier is books where half the print or more is page long code examples. It's pathetic how publishers use that technique to fluff up a book. I find the Internet in general a much better resource for technical information. I do however greatly miss the San Diego Technical Book Store, living here in farm land, NY! Marc

                  Thyme In The Country

                  People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                  There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                  People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                    I don't absolutely prefer one over the other. They each have their place.

                    Jon Sagara Kittens give Morbo gas. -- Morbo Blog | Site | Articles

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                    Bradml
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                    Ok you are stuck on a deserted island......


                    Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                      Ok you are stuck on a deserted island......


                      Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                      Oh, well in that case, lots of hot women and cold beer. :rolleyes:

                      Jon Sagara Kittens give Morbo gas. -- Morbo Blog | Site | Articles

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                        I am in the works of devising a devilishy evil plan, to make an offer Chris CAN'T refuse! I am thinking I will trade Kyle's head for a PHP forum.


                        Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        Bradml wrote:

                        I am in the works of devising a devilishy evil plan, to make an offer Chris CAN'T refuse! I am thinking I will trade Kyle's head for a PHP forum.

                        Suddenly I feel the stirrings of an interest in PHP welling up.:-D

                        the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                          Bradml wrote:

                          I am in the works of devising a devilishy evil plan, to make an offer Chris CAN'T refuse! I am thinking I will trade Kyle's head for a PHP forum.

                          Suddenly I feel the stirrings of an interest in PHP welling up.:-D

                          the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                          Bradml
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                          :laugh:


                          Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                            Oh, well in that case, lots of hot women and cold beer. :rolleyes:

                            Jon Sagara Kittens give Morbo gas. -- Morbo Blog | Site | Articles

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                            Jon Sagara wrote:

                            Oh, well in that case, lots of hot women and cold beer.

                            Amen!

                            :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
                            We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. - Aristotle

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                              I have found that a lot of the articles on CP cover rather useful things. I personally like to read books etc. when learning a new technique, but that is because CP does not provide great information for PHP devs (but if we had our own forum....), but I was wondering if you .Net guys prefer CP to books with regards to new techniques etc. I do make a point to read the C++ articles though.

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                              Aaron VanWieren
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                              I use both. I tend to love the books for getting into a subject, but find the CP to be specifically technical. Also, when I commute, I cannot read CP, but can read a book. I think the important thing with tech books is taking time to get the right one. When I go to buy a new tech book I can spend hours just looking for one that meets my learning style and also does not gloss over the simple stuff I can find anywhere. I prefer it if it has "I did not know I could do that that way" material inside. I usually stick with Apress, sometimes WROX and anything in black and red by Microsoft (Usually). I stay away from Orielly as I think these books are way over rated and are sheer coffee leg replacements. Aaron

                              _____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe

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                                I have found that a lot of the articles on CP cover rather useful things. I personally like to read books etc. when learning a new technique, but that is because CP does not provide great information for PHP devs (but if we had our own forum....), but I was wondering if you .Net guys prefer CP to books with regards to new techniques etc. I do make a point to read the C++ articles though.

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                                Both really. The problem that I've tended to find in books though is that they are very generic, and focus on very high level issues. Which is fine if you're skim-learning something. I find that the focussed approach to individual problems on CP is a much better approach for finding how to solve real issues though.

                                the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                  Bradml wrote:

                                  but I was wondering if you .Net guys prefer CP to books with regards to new techniques etc.

                                  I've found that most technical books are so dumbed down that they are worthless. I don't know who buys these things, and I don't know why publishers have decided that the primary audience is the neophyte. Actually, I do know why--because technical people aren't the best writers, but in my limited experience, publishers provide editors that are even less technical. The result is a useless book. But who buys them is a mystery to me still. So, I tend to look only at very technical books, typically written by the creator of the technology/language. Another disqualifier is books where half the print or more is page long code examples. It's pathetic how publishers use that technique to fluff up a book. I find the Internet in general a much better resource for technical information. I do however greatly miss the San Diego Technical Book Store, living here in farm land, NY! Marc

                                  Thyme In The Country

                                  People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                  There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                  People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                  Marc, I agree with you that the bookshelves are flooded with "XYZ for Dummies" (whether the books are actually named like that is irrelevant). However, as you mentioned, there are diamonds in the rough. Those more than make up for the deluge of crappy books that teach morons how to be hackers. Here are some diamonds, to me: Design Patterns (Gamma, et al). Inside C# (Archer & Whitechapel). Applications = Code + Markup (Petzold). Advanced .NET Programming (Robinson). Essential .NET (Box & Sells). Those books have helped open my eyes to new worlds of software, and I'll never regret reading them. I regret wasting my time with other books, but that's life. The same goes for CP articles.

                                  :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
                                  We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. - Aristotle

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                                    I use both. I tend to love the books for getting into a subject, but find the CP to be specifically technical. Also, when I commute, I cannot read CP, but can read a book. I think the important thing with tech books is taking time to get the right one. When I go to buy a new tech book I can spend hours just looking for one that meets my learning style and also does not gloss over the simple stuff I can find anywhere. I prefer it if it has "I did not know I could do that that way" material inside. I usually stick with Apress, sometimes WROX and anything in black and red by Microsoft (Usually). I stay away from Orielly as I think these books are way over rated and are sheer coffee leg replacements. Aaron

                                    _____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe

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                                    Bradml
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                                    Aaron VanWieren wrote:

                                    I usually stick with Apress

                                    I happen to have 8 different Apress books at the moment.

                                    Aaron VanWieren wrote:

                                    Orielly

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                                    Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                                      Both really. The problem that I've tended to find in books though is that they are very generic, and focus on very high level issues. Which is fine if you're skim-learning something. I find that the focussed approach to individual problems on CP is a much better approach for finding how to solve real issues though.

                                      the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                      Bradml
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                                      Not always, if you find a book that targets a specific field then they can delve quite deep into details.


                                      Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                                        What is your prefernece though?


                                        Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                                        I love books. But my wife hates them because I leave them sitting out and stacked around the furniture.

                                        Mike in NH

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                                          I love books. But my wife hates them because I leave them sitting out and stacked around the furniture.

                                          Mike in NH

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                                          At my place they are the furniture.


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