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  • L Lost User

    Surely there is some protocol (written or not) that forbids a foreign politician commenting on the internal political posturing during electioneering campaigns. As such, IMO, the Australian Prime Minister should be told to keep his nose out of USA internal politics.

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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    That's what I thought too, which is why I thought it was under-handed.


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    • O oilFactotum

      Obama responds well: "Mr. Obama brushed off the political attack, saying he finds it "flattering" to be criticized by such a prominent Bush supporter. "If he's ginned up to fight the good fight in Iraq, I would suggest that he call up another 20,000 Australians and send them to Iraq," he said during a campaign stop in Ames, Iowa. "Otherwise, it's just a bunch of empty rhetoric."

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      Lost User
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      The Australian Prime Minister should look after his own campaign as I recall, the Australians go to the polls later this year.

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      • L Lost User

        Surely there is some protocol (written or not) that forbids a foreign politician commenting on the internal political posturing during electioneering campaigns. As such, IMO, the Australian Prime Minister should be told to keep his nose out of USA internal politics.

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        Dan Neely
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        No, just the law of unintended consequences, ie it's more likely to backfire than help. The only exception being where Country B is is a puppet of Country A, in which bad things can happen if A's choice is ignored.

        -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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          The Australian Prime Minister should look after his own campaign as I recall, the Australians go to the polls later this year.

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          oilFactotum
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          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

          The Australian Prime Minister should look after his own campaign

          Maybe that is what he is doing. His real aim may be for domestic Australian consumption.

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          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

            Click here.[^] Stan, what do you think of this? Do you think the republicans, or an individual high in that group, asked the Australian PM to use that argument?


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            Lost User
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            As sensible as I expected.

            The tigress is here :-D

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            • M Mike Gaskey

              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

              what do you think of this?

              good to hear a politician with an honest assessment.

              Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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              Mike Gaskey
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              Mike Gaskey wrote:

              good to hear a politician with an honest assessment.

              guess it isn't so good, eh?

              Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                what do you think of this?

                good to hear a politician with an honest assessment.

                Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                Marc Clifton
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                ""It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreements in the lives and heart of someone else's civil war...If he's ginned up to fight the good fight in Iraq, I would suggest that he call up another 20,000 Australians and send them to Iraq. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of empty rhetoric." Yes it is. Marc

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                • M Mike Gaskey

                  Mike Gaskey wrote:

                  good to hear a politician with an honest assessment.

                  guess it isn't so good, eh?

                  Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                  oilFactotum
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                  It may be an honest assessment, but it is wrong. Perhaps it is because some, like myself, thing that it's not that you like hearing an honest assesment so much as hearing an assessment that you agree with( and for that reason declare it to be honest).

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                    ""It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreements in the lives and heart of someone else's civil war...If he's ginned up to fight the good fight in Iraq, I would suggest that he call up another 20,000 Australians and send them to Iraq. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of empty rhetoric." Yes it is. Marc

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                    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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                    Mike Gaskey
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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    It's time to admit that no.......

                    Obama and the majority of Democrats are out and out fools. Regardless of what opinion you may have on why we are where we are, the fact of the matter is that we've pulled a scab off of Iraq and it is the height of irresponsibility to believe we should walk away.

                    Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                      Click here.[^] Stan, what do you think of this? Do you think the republicans, or an individual high in that group, asked the Australian PM to use that argument?


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                      Stan Shannon
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                      All I know is that if this country puts someone named Ofuckingbama in the oval office, I'm moving to Australia.

                      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                      • O oilFactotum

                        It may be an honest assessment, but it is wrong. Perhaps it is because some, like myself, thing that it's not that you like hearing an honest assesment so much as hearing an assessment that you agree with( and for that reason declare it to be honest).

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                        Mike Gaskey
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                        oilFactotum wrote:

                        but it is wrong

                        you don't think that an enemy, Al Q., doesn't salivate at the idea of cowardly democrats holding the presidency?

                        Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                        • M Mike Gaskey

                          oilFactotum wrote:

                          but it is wrong

                          you don't think that an enemy, Al Q., doesn't salivate at the idea of cowardly democrats holding the presidency?

                          Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                          oilFactotum
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                          Quite frankly, I don't think they care who is president. But if they did, they would probably prefer an incompetent like Bush who has done more to send recruits to the terrorists than they could have ever hoped for. And by the way, recognizing the reality of Bush's failed war is not cowardly. The cowardice is pretending that we are winning a lost war.

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                          • S Stan Shannon

                            All I know is that if this country puts someone named Ofuckingbama in the oval office, I'm moving to Australia.

                            Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                            Lost User
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                            It saves thinking.

                            The tigress is here :-D

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                            • O oilFactotum

                              Quite frankly, I don't think they care who is president. But if they did, they would probably prefer an incompetent like Bush who has done more to send recruits to the terrorists than they could have ever hoped for. And by the way, recognizing the reality of Bush's failed war is not cowardly. The cowardice is pretending that we are winning a lost war.

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                              oilFactotum wrote:

                              And by the way, recognizing the reality of Bush's failed war is not cowardly.

                              oh sure, so all the Democrats who voted to authorize the war were completely taken in by Bush. Horse shit. The cowards, starting with Kerry and running through Clinton, were all on board until the going got tough. Then, like the turncoat cowards they are, all of a sudden Bush became the evil bad guy. let me repeat, what a load of horse shit.

                              Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                              • S Stan Shannon

                                All I know is that if this country puts someone named Ofuckingbama in the oval office, I'm moving to Australia.

                                Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                Rob Manderson
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                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                I'm moving to Australia

                                Can't think of a better reason to vote for him!

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  I'm moving to Australia

                                  Can't think of a better reason to vote for him!

                                  Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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                                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                  :-D


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                                  • M Mike Gaskey

                                    oilFactotum wrote:

                                    And by the way, recognizing the reality of Bush's failed war is not cowardly.

                                    oh sure, so all the Democrats who voted to authorize the war were completely taken in by Bush. Horse shit. The cowards, starting with Kerry and running through Clinton, were all on board until the going got tough. Then, like the turncoat cowards they are, all of a sudden Bush became the evil bad guy. let me repeat, what a load of horse shit.

                                    Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                                    oilFactotum
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                                    Mike Gaskey wrote:

                                    so all the Democrats who voted to authorize the war were completely taken in by Bush.

                                    So you are saying that Bush lied about the WMD's and links to Al-Queda and the Democrats knew this when they voted for the war. I'll agree that Bush lied, but I don't think that everyone knew it, but I will concede that very few Dems were willing to stand up to Bush and maybe that can be called cowardice. But, of course, if the Dems knew, then so did the R's, so they are equally cowardly.

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                                    were all on board

                                    Perhaps.

                                    Mike Gaskey wrote:

                                    until the going got tough

                                    No, rather until it was clear that Bush was incapable of victory. He lost the war, so why would anyone stick to a losing policy? It's way past time to change the policy, the Dems recognize this as do many R's. -- modified at 15:32 Monday 12th February, 2007

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                                    • S Stan Shannon

                                      All I know is that if this country puts someone named Ofuckingbama in the oval office, I'm moving to Australia.

                                      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                      So is Obama way different than any other democrat that you haven't moved already or is it the name? I had hope for you Stan. I really did. :sigh:


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                                      • R Rob Manderson

                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        I'm moving to Australia

                                        Can't think of a better reason to vote for him!

                                        Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^] My blog mirror http://robmanderson.blogspot.com[^]

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                                        oilFactotum
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                                        Australians might disagree:)

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                                        • O oilFactotum

                                          Australians might disagree:)

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                                          Rob Manderson
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                                          Heh - I'm still an Australian :)

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