VB6 apps [modified]

GaryWoodfine

norm .net wrote:

You see you're missing the whole point, VB6 was a scripting language for users and not a programming language for developers.

Ok So you're a purist on the "Programming", so are you're saying we should just stuck to just writing binary or Assembler, that way just skip the whole intermediate compiler step :-)

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ChandraRam

Hear, hear! And this may be of interest - I have rewritten a C++ app to VB, due to bad (pathetic, actually) design / code, and because the customer wanted to maintain it themselves. So, as you say - depends on the programmer - bad is everywhere.

NormDroid

cykophysh39 wrote:

I got money for contract

But what did the customer really get, "A quickly churned out application" - this wouldn't fill the customers heart with hope ;) -- modified at 9:34 Thursday 15th February, 2007

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NormDroid

cykophysh39 wrote:

Ok So you're a purist on the "Programming", so are you're saying we should just stuck to just writing binary or Assembler, that way just skip the whole intermediate compiler step

Nope you're so far off... Any I'm a C# bigot now, so lets leave it at that.

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ChandraRam

cykophysh39 wrote: I have used VB6 To quickly churn out business applications to be used, in half the time it would have taken to write in VC++,

That was the complete sentence.... Seriously, do you think that the application would have been more stable or better just because it was written in VC++? Is it not actually enough to deliver on the clients requirements? I fully expect to be flamed for this statement :rolleyes:

GaryWoodfine

And I'm a "Will code in any language you desire for food" bigot :-)

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GaryWoodfine

The customer got thier business requirement fulfilled cost effectively :-)

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ChandraRam

cykophysh39 wrote:

And I'm a "Will code in any language you desire for food" bigot

Well said... I do suspect many of us (including me) will fall under that category :)

R Giskard Reventlov

Look, it may not be the Rolls Royce of programming languages but it did do a good job in the right hands, just as c+ can do a terrible job in the wrong hands. In any case, if it was that bad that you had to rewrite all of the apps you came across in c++ or whatever, didn't that make you money by keeping you in work? Even with your opinion you ought to be grateful.

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NormDroid

digital man wrote:

Even with your opinion you ought to be grateful

grateful? For what?:sigh: Putting up with low grade users trying to create applications with a low grade scripting tool?

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GaryWoodfine

If the application does what it is required to do. i.e Allow data input, Retrieve data, Display data, manipulate data, blah blah!! It is fine. It's when people tried to use VB6 for tasks it just wasn't designed for that they started getting into trouble. This argument about Languages, platforms, yada yada is so stale, and has gone over so many times, that to be frank is just plain boring. It's the same as saying HTML is no good for rendering on the web, and we should all use XHTML 63.whatever, we forget that there was a space in time that HTML 1.0 was the dogs danglies. Sure it could've done as with improvements when it was released, but the fact is it done it's job when it needed too. I'm not saying all development should've been done in VB6, but at the same time I'm not going to say that no development should've been done in VB6. Does that the fact that c#2005 is now widely used discount all the development in C#2003? Honestly I have read many times on this argument so many times it's so boring. In my opinion there is/was nothing wrong with VB6. It was a decent tool to preform a job. Yes there were better tools,and I used them for specific jobs too but I never lost sleep over the fact that I could've done something in another language/platform/methodology. I used what I was required to use. Due to Budget/Time/Resources restraints. A Ferrari is a top dog in cars, but it isn't honestly any good in driving around town in?

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Fernando A Gomez F

According to Mayans, world ends in 2012. :cool:

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GaryWoodfine

yeah I couldn't remember the exact year!

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Fernando A Gomez F

I wonder if the Mayans predicted about the Microsoft World Domination Plans new Windows Operating System that will bring the world to an end. :)

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Kevin McFarlane

No, I mean attitude.

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Kevin McFarlane

Gary, I wish there were more people here with your eminently sensible attitude. :) norm .net is just an asshole.

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Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe

Come now, Norm. You know only real programmers write everything in Edlin and use command line compilers. IDEs are for whimps. :D Unless you are referring to Unix systems where everything is written in vi. The truely devoted amongst developers can't post here as they are still busy porting Adventure to binary. We are, after all, a rather masochistic lot... :-> Flynn -- modified at 17:11 Thursday 15th February, 2007

Internet Filter

We use a lot of VB6 Components in our Internet Filtering product, IM Lock. It's just better for RAD development in a lot of cases. Plus a lot of consumers out there still have older PC's that don't support the .Net framework. The other issue is download size. Some people just don't want to download the huge (comparitively, at least) amount of data to install .NET apps. That being said, .Net does a whole lot more, and we leverage that with web services. Web Filtering Guy