VB6 apps [modified]

NormDroid

cykophysh39 wrote:

VB6 apps

Yeah, where to you want me to begin; sh*t, cr*p, sl*w, ugly...

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R Giskard Reventlov

What a boorish attitude. VB6 did a job: that's all. Just like VC or C# or COBOL. You may not like it (for some irrational reason) and it may have been a hammer compared to a precision lathe but it did do a decent job. I've used it and I've used pretty much everything else as well (even Java!). I really don't care: it's whatever the employer wants and is willing to pay for. If I don't think I'll enjoy using the technology I decline the role. Simple. There is no perfect technology: they all have good points and bad so stop knocking what is, in reality, just a tool. Oh go on, have a nice day.

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GaryWoodfine

Compared to what at the time?

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NormDroid

Visual C++ of course ;P

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NormDroid

digital man wrote:

VB6 did a job

Cludge a job, Oh believe me it lets the less talented of users develop throw together bad applications, it sometimes was used for the jobs and I've seen some pretty bad UI's in my time and 99% of them came from VB.

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Kevin McFarlane

cykophysh39 wrote:

I have bever really understood why everybody moans about it

Because lots of C/C++ developers are language bigots.

GaryWoodfine

Yeah, but when compared to the ease of developing quick business applications VB6 was King.

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GaryWoodfine

Yeah, I know. I don't see what the big hangup is about Programming languages!! So you know how to code in a Language!! Well to be a "real" programmer you need to know a whole heap of languages. I think the language bigots just need to grow up, and get over it :-)

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NormDroid

cykophysh39 wrote:

VB6 was King

I would hardly say 'King', but each to their own, I suppose.;)

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NormDroid

cykophysh39 wrote:

I don't see what the big hangup is about Programming languages

You see you're missing the whole point, VB6 was a scripting language for users and not a programming language for developers.

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Marc Clifton

My neighbor is a farmer and is in his 50's. He said something really interesting yesterday when I was talking to him. He said that for him, there's a lot of joy and pleasure and fun in farming, and he really feels that his mental attitude is partly what keeps him physically able to do the work. He feels that if farming stops being fun, his body will start falling apart because his mental attitude isn't positive anymore.

ChandraRam wrote:

on how those poor unfortunate souls

The moral of the story is, "poor and unfortunate" is a mental attitude, just as if you look instead at the joy of learning something new, moving forward, etc. Marc

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ChandraRam

cykophysh39 wrote:

Well to be a "real" programmer you need to know a whole heap of languages.

I should think you need to know how to program, period ;)

ChandraRam

Oh, but you misunderstood me... I was being sarcastic - due to the attitude that CPians generally have towards classic VB. I have (and still do) developed many apps using VB6... I really believe in using the tool best suited.

Kevin McFarlane

norm .net wrote:

it lets the less talented of users develop throw together bad applications

I've done and seen a lot of VB and a lot of C++ and there is no shortage of bad code in both. It's just down to the attitude of the developers.

Dan Neely

ChandraRam wrote:

What I was interested in was, what would (or should) the user of the app do to implement new requirements or fix things in the app, if all programmers were to migrate to a different language / platform, stating VB6 to be uncool?

Cobol's survived despite over a generation of mockery, VB will survive in the same "I hate it, but I hate unemployment worse" limbo.

-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

NormDroid

Kevin McFarlane wrote:

attitude of the developers

I think you mean aptitude ;)

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NormDroid

cykophysh39 wrote:

Well to be a "real" programmer you need to know a whole heap of languages.

You know that familiar saying "Jack of all trades..."

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Marc Clifton

ChandraRam wrote:

was being sarcastic

Ah, well, I guess [sarcasm] tags would have been good. :)

ChandraRam wrote:

due to the attitude that CPians generally have towards classic VB.

Or VB in general. I'm definitely in the "I have an attitude" category, haha.

ChandraRam wrote:

I really believe in using the tool best suited.

If the customer is happy, that's pretty much 99.99% of all that counts. Marc

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There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

GaryWoodfine

Yeah I think this thread could run into the danger of growing to be an ever expanding discussion on the Merits of VB6 and C++, an argument that has existed for years and years. And there are compelling arguments for both. And the "Purists" could lose months of sleep debating this subject to nTH degree. But in Reality, as a Developer, I have used VB6 To quickly churn out business applications to be used, in half the time it would have taken to write in VC++, and it was always easier to assemble a team of competent VB programmers than it was to get competent VC++ developers and often cheaper. Again we could discuss the merits of this to the nTH degree, but the fact is the business got their application, I got money for contract, and everybody's happy :-)

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ChandraRam

Hear, hear! And this may be of interest - I have rewritten a C++ app to VB, due to bad (pathetic, actually) design / code, and because the customer wanted to maintain it themselves. So, as you say - depends on the programmer - bad is everywhere.