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  • G GaryWoodfine

    There is still alot to be said for VB6 apps!! I wrote a vb6 app about must be aprox 8 years ago!, and it is still running!! It survived the Transfer from NT4, To Win2k, to XP no problem!! the company I wrote it for, all the users don't want to stop using it as it is the most reliable application they have, and there is very little maintenance to be done to it. I have bever really understood why everybody moans about it, yes there are limitations to VB6/5, and yes there is a certain amount of Kudos to say you're a C++ developer, but in reality if you understood the limitations of VB6/5 and worked within them, it was a good answer to RAD at that time.

    Kind Regards, Gary


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    ChandraRam
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    cykophysh39 wrote:

    I wrote a vb6 app about must be aprox 8 years ago!, and it is still running!!

    Thats really good... congrats :) What I was interested in was, what would (or should) the user of the app do to implement new requirements or fix things in the app, if all programmers were to migrate to a different language / platform, stating VB6 to be uncool?

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      cykophysh39 wrote:

      I wrote a vb6 app about must be aprox 8 years ago!, and it is still running!!

      Thats really good... congrats :) What I was interested in was, what would (or should) the user of the app do to implement new requirements or fix things in the app, if all programmers were to migrate to a different language / platform, stating VB6 to be uncool?

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      Well it depends on the application and the architecture behind it. This is not a new phenomena, this question has been asked throughout the history computing. As platforms change and requirements change how do we maintain applications. If you ever find the answer to this, you'll probably elevate yourself to messiah status :-)

      Kind Regards, Gary


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      • G GaryWoodfine

        There is still alot to be said for VB6 apps!! I wrote a vb6 app about must be aprox 8 years ago!, and it is still running!! It survived the Transfer from NT4, To Win2k, to XP no problem!! the company I wrote it for, all the users don't want to stop using it as it is the most reliable application they have, and there is very little maintenance to be done to it. I have bever really understood why everybody moans about it, yes there are limitations to VB6/5, and yes there is a certain amount of Kudos to say you're a C++ developer, but in reality if you understood the limitations of VB6/5 and worked within them, it was a good answer to RAD at that time.

        Kind Regards, Gary


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        NormDroid
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        cykophysh39 wrote:

        VB6 apps

        Yeah, where to you want me to begin; sh*t, cr*p, sl*w, ugly...

        We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs

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          cykophysh39 wrote:

          VB6 apps

          Yeah, where to you want me to begin; sh*t, cr*p, sl*w, ugly...

          We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          What a boorish attitude. VB6 did a job: that's all. Just like VC or C# or COBOL. You may not like it (for some irrational reason) and it may have been a hammer compared to a precision lathe but it did do a decent job. I've used it and I've used pretty much everything else as well (even Java!). I really don't care: it's whatever the employer wants and is willing to pay for. If I don't think I'll enjoy using the technology I decline the role. Simple. There is no perfect technology: they all have good points and bad so stop knocking what is, in reality, just a tool. Oh go on, have a nice day.

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            cykophysh39 wrote:

            VB6 apps

            Yeah, where to you want me to begin; sh*t, cr*p, sl*w, ugly...

            We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs

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            Compared to what at the time?

            Kind Regards, Gary


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            • G GaryWoodfine

              Compared to what at the time?

              Kind Regards, Gary


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              NormDroid
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              Visual C++ of course ;P

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                What a boorish attitude. VB6 did a job: that's all. Just like VC or C# or COBOL. You may not like it (for some irrational reason) and it may have been a hammer compared to a precision lathe but it did do a decent job. I've used it and I've used pretty much everything else as well (even Java!). I really don't care: it's whatever the employer wants and is willing to pay for. If I don't think I'll enjoy using the technology I decline the role. Simple. There is no perfect technology: they all have good points and bad so stop knocking what is, in reality, just a tool. Oh go on, have a nice day.

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                NormDroid
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                digital man wrote:

                VB6 did a job

                Cludge a job, Oh believe me it lets the less talented of users develop throw together bad applications, it sometimes was used for the jobs and I've seen some pretty bad UI's in my time and 99% of them came from VB.

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                • G GaryWoodfine

                  There is still alot to be said for VB6 apps!! I wrote a vb6 app about must be aprox 8 years ago!, and it is still running!! It survived the Transfer from NT4, To Win2k, to XP no problem!! the company I wrote it for, all the users don't want to stop using it as it is the most reliable application they have, and there is very little maintenance to be done to it. I have bever really understood why everybody moans about it, yes there are limitations to VB6/5, and yes there is a certain amount of Kudos to say you're a C++ developer, but in reality if you understood the limitations of VB6/5 and worked within them, it was a good answer to RAD at that time.

                  Kind Regards, Gary


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                  Kevin McFarlane
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                  cykophysh39 wrote:

                  I have bever really understood why everybody moans about it

                  Because lots of C/C++ developers are language bigots.

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                    Visual C++ of course ;P

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                    GaryWoodfine
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                    Yeah, but when compared to the ease of developing quick business applications VB6 was King.

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                    • K Kevin McFarlane

                      cykophysh39 wrote:

                      I have bever really understood why everybody moans about it

                      Because lots of C/C++ developers are language bigots.

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                      Yeah, I know. I don't see what the big hangup is about Programming languages!! So you know how to code in a Language!! Well to be a "real" programmer you need to know a whole heap of languages. I think the language bigots just need to grow up, and get over it :-)

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                      • G GaryWoodfine

                        Yeah, but when compared to the ease of developing quick business applications VB6 was King.

                        Kind Regards, Gary


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                        NormDroid
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                        cykophysh39 wrote:

                        VB6 was King

                        I would hardly say 'King', but each to their own, I suppose.;)

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                        • G GaryWoodfine

                          Yeah, I know. I don't see what the big hangup is about Programming languages!! So you know how to code in a Language!! Well to be a "real" programmer you need to know a whole heap of languages. I think the language bigots just need to grow up, and get over it :-)

                          Kind Regards, Gary


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                          NormDroid
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                          cykophysh39 wrote:

                          I don't see what the big hangup is about Programming languages

                          You see you're missing the whole point, VB6 was a scripting language for users and not a programming language for developers.

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                          • C ChandraRam

                            I dont mean to start a flame war, but given the popularity (?) of classic VB in this forum site, I would be very much interested in your suggestions / thoughts on how those poor unfortunate souls, who are currently using VB6 apps, will maintain their code... Pay $$ to convert en-masse to some .NET? ...

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                            My neighbor is a farmer and is in his 50's. He said something really interesting yesterday when I was talking to him. He said that for him, there's a lot of joy and pleasure and fun in farming, and he really feels that his mental attitude is partly what keeps him physically able to do the work. He feels that if farming stops being fun, his body will start falling apart because his mental attitude isn't positive anymore.

                            ChandraRam wrote:

                            on how those poor unfortunate souls

                            The moral of the story is, "poor and unfortunate" is a mental attitude, just as if you look instead at the joy of learning something new, moving forward, etc. Marc

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                            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                            People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                            • G GaryWoodfine

                              Yeah, I know. I don't see what the big hangup is about Programming languages!! So you know how to code in a Language!! Well to be a "real" programmer you need to know a whole heap of languages. I think the language bigots just need to grow up, and get over it :-)

                              Kind Regards, Gary


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                              ChandraRam
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                              cykophysh39 wrote:

                              Well to be a "real" programmer you need to know a whole heap of languages.

                              I should think you need to know how to program, period ;)

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                My neighbor is a farmer and is in his 50's. He said something really interesting yesterday when I was talking to him. He said that for him, there's a lot of joy and pleasure and fun in farming, and he really feels that his mental attitude is partly what keeps him physically able to do the work. He feels that if farming stops being fun, his body will start falling apart because his mental attitude isn't positive anymore.

                                ChandraRam wrote:

                                on how those poor unfortunate souls

                                The moral of the story is, "poor and unfortunate" is a mental attitude, just as if you look instead at the joy of learning something new, moving forward, etc. Marc

                                Thyme In The Country
                                Interacx

                                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                ChandraRam
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                                Oh, but you misunderstood me... I was being sarcastic - due to the attitude that CPians generally have towards classic VB. I have (and still do) developed many apps using VB6... I really believe in using the tool best suited.

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                                • N NormDroid

                                  digital man wrote:

                                  VB6 did a job

                                  Cludge a job, Oh believe me it lets the less talented of users develop throw together bad applications, it sometimes was used for the jobs and I've seen some pretty bad UI's in my time and 99% of them came from VB.

                                  We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs

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                                  norm .net wrote:

                                  it lets the less talented of users develop throw together bad applications

                                  I've done and seen a lot of VB and a lot of C++ and there is no shortage of bad code in both. It's just down to the attitude of the developers.

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                                  • C ChandraRam

                                    cykophysh39 wrote:

                                    I wrote a vb6 app about must be aprox 8 years ago!, and it is still running!!

                                    Thats really good... congrats :) What I was interested in was, what would (or should) the user of the app do to implement new requirements or fix things in the app, if all programmers were to migrate to a different language / platform, stating VB6 to be uncool?

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    ChandraRam wrote:

                                    What I was interested in was, what would (or should) the user of the app do to implement new requirements or fix things in the app, if all programmers were to migrate to a different language / platform, stating VB6 to be uncool?

                                    Cobol's survived despite over a generation of mockery, VB will survive in the same "I hate it, but I hate unemployment worse" limbo.

                                    -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                                    • K Kevin McFarlane

                                      norm .net wrote:

                                      it lets the less talented of users develop throw together bad applications

                                      I've done and seen a lot of VB and a lot of C++ and there is no shortage of bad code in both. It's just down to the attitude of the developers.

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                                      NormDroid
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                                      Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                      attitude of the developers

                                      I think you mean aptitude ;)

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                                      • G GaryWoodfine

                                        Yeah, I know. I don't see what the big hangup is about Programming languages!! So you know how to code in a Language!! Well to be a "real" programmer you need to know a whole heap of languages. I think the language bigots just need to grow up, and get over it :-)

                                        Kind Regards, Gary


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                                        NormDroid
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                                        cykophysh39 wrote:

                                        Well to be a "real" programmer you need to know a whole heap of languages.

                                        You know that familiar saying "Jack of all trades..."

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                                          Oh, but you misunderstood me... I was being sarcastic - due to the attitude that CPians generally have towards classic VB. I have (and still do) developed many apps using VB6... I really believe in using the tool best suited.

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                                          Marc Clifton
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                                          ChandraRam wrote:

                                          was being sarcastic

                                          Ah, well, I guess [sarcasm] tags would have been good. :)

                                          ChandraRam wrote:

                                          due to the attitude that CPians generally have towards classic VB.

                                          Or VB in general. I'm definitely in the "I have an attitude" category, haha.

                                          ChandraRam wrote:

                                          I really believe in using the tool best suited.

                                          If the customer is happy, that's pretty much 99.99% of all that counts. Marc

                                          Thyme In The Country
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                                          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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