I saw "Fast Food Nation" yesterday
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I really don't care what their justifications are, the fact is that they modifyed their product range in 'undisclosed ways' between him making the 'film' and it hitting DVD release in the UK. Magically salt and sugar levels both come down on most of their products. Your research cannot be held as conclusive due to that alone.
Red Stateler wrote:
The math simply doesn't add up.
Coming from you... :doh:
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
Coming from you...
So then basically you're saying you blindly accept their claims...:rolleyes: Despite the fact that they never stated what he ate and the fact that the amount of sugar he consumed indicated that he intentionally overate...I mean REALLY overate. Why don't you just check for yourself?
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Regardless of what this journalist says, Subway subs rock. :cool: McGrease doesn't. :)
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MP (2) wrote:
Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I'm pretty sure that is what we have always been. Anyone who doesn't like it, shouldn't live here.
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I partly agree with this. A big part of the problem is that it is not contained within your borders.
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I didn't see the movie, but fast food, overeating and obesity are a global trend. It is not only in America and not only on the rich countries. This thing didn't happen before just because food was more expensive by then. Some months ago I saw a survey from World Health Organization saying that the number of overweight people has surpassed the number of undernourished in the world. The same is happening here in South America. Like any other animal, people are genetically coded to eat as much as they can and to not waste energy. This makes sense in a wild, Darwinian struggle for survival. But in a world with cheap food and machines to do all the hard work the results are obesity. Anyway, it is good to keep things in perspective: better obesity than hunger.
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GK ChestertonDiego Moita wrote:
This makes sense in a wild, Darwinian struggle for survival.
:doh: Did you have to bring evolution into this? What will the extreme-right do now? :badger:
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David Wulff wrote:
Coming from you...
So then basically you're saying you blindly accept their claims...:rolleyes: Despite the fact that they never stated what he ate and the fact that the amount of sugar he consumed indicated that he intentionally overate...I mean REALLY overate. Why don't you just check for yourself?
Red Stateler wrote:
So then basically you're saying you blindly accept their claims...
Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.
Red Stateler wrote:
Why don't you just check for yourself?
Because it was a shit film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?
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I love how easily people can be brainwashed by a movie nowadays. I talked about 'An Inconvenient Truth' with someone who literally told me 'I don't care about facts, I only care about what I saw'.
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Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed. You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.
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MP (2) wrote:
The one to blame here is not Bush, it is the corporate culture that you have become. Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I don't think the U.S. is alone in this.
I was watching Comedy Central's 'Axis of Evil' comedy tour which had three Palestinians and an Iranian. One talked about how he visited his cousing in Jordan and the cousin was going off about America yet driving by Mc'Ds, KFC, Starbucks, etc. The comedian says that if America goes down, we're taking this (all the American chains) with us. The cousin was upset and wanted to destroy America, but leave the restaurants--except KFC. Anyhow, if you are able to view the show, it's quite funny all around.
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Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed. You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.
MP (2) wrote:
Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed.
True. But, it's rare for any movie to provide an unbiased view. Anyone who agrees with what a movie tells them 100%, with no caveats, is probaby brainwashed.
MP (2) wrote:
You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.
To be honest, I am sure I would agree with much of what is in the movie in question. I am making a broader comment about people accepting 100% any media source that presents a point of view they want to buy in to.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Red Stateler wrote:
So then basically you're saying you blindly accept their claims...
Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.
Red Stateler wrote:
Why don't you just check for yourself?
Because it was a shit film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkDavid Wulff wrote:
Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.
So if he ate, say, a pound of sugar/day, it would be "illogical" to look at McDonalds' nutrition information to see how exactly one could eat a pound of sugar every day for a month? Hmmmmmmm.... OK.
David Wulff wrote:
Because it was a sh*t film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?
DVDs have scene selection, you know.
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I liked the movie. I think it is a good depiction of what America has become.
I think there are two things we need to remember: (I haven't seen the movie so I am not going to directly comment about it) 1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea. 2. People react to food differently. We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine. I know if I barely look at high fructose corn syrup I might as well get out the old pants that are now too large. So one person on a McD's diet may gain a ton of weight and another may barely notice a difference. All in all I think my first point is the 'duh' factor that people need to remember.
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MP (2) wrote:
Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed.
True. But, it's rare for any movie to provide an unbiased view. Anyone who agrees with what a movie tells them 100%, with no caveats, is probaby brainwashed.
MP (2) wrote:
You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.
To be honest, I am sure I would agree with much of what is in the movie in question. I am making a broader comment about people accepting 100% any media source that presents a point of view they want to buy in to.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Your initial reply did not reveal so much insight on the subject.
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Your initial reply did not reveal so much insight on the subject.
Fair enough - I am replying at work, during build times :-)
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Diego Moita wrote:
This makes sense in a wild, Darwinian struggle for survival.
:doh: Did you have to bring evolution into this? What will the extreme-right do now? :badger:
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leckey wrote:
Did you have to bring evolution into this? What will the extreme-right do now?
:laugh: Ooops...:-O
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Regardless of what this journalist says, Subway subs rock. :cool: McGrease doesn't. :)
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The one to blame here is not Bush, it is the corporate culture that you have become. Anything for profit, whatever it takes. Bush is just a by-product of corporate America.
MP (2) wrote:
Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I don't understand what your problem is with fast food. If I want to drive up to a resturunt and get a couple burgers then that is my business. :rolleyes:
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I think there are two things we need to remember: (I haven't seen the movie so I am not going to directly comment about it) 1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea. 2. People react to food differently. We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine. I know if I barely look at high fructose corn syrup I might as well get out the old pants that are now too large. So one person on a McD's diet may gain a ton of weight and another may barely notice a difference. All in all I think my first point is the 'duh' factor that people need to remember.
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leckey wrote:
We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine.
I don't hate those people... someone needs to eat all this pastry i'm baking...
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MP (2) wrote:
Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I don't understand what your problem is with fast food. If I want to drive up to a resturunt and get a couple burgers then that is my business. :rolleyes:
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In fact, as far as I am concerned, you may have as much as you can. Anyway, you are missing the point.
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leckey wrote:
We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine.
I don't hate those people... someone needs to eat all this pastry i'm baking...
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David Wulff wrote:
Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.
So if he ate, say, a pound of sugar/day, it would be "illogical" to look at McDonalds' nutrition information to see how exactly one could eat a pound of sugar every day for a month? Hmmmmmmm.... OK.
David Wulff wrote:
Because it was a sh*t film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?
DVDs have scene selection, you know.
Red Stateler wrote:
So if he ate, say, a pound of sugar/day, it would be "illogical" to look at McDonalds' nutrition information to see how exactly one could eat a pound of sugar every day for a month?
The point here is that McDonalds revised their products in light of the movie. I assumed that would be enough, but it seems I have to spell it out for you: THIS MEANS THAT THE NUTRITION STATS ARE NO LONGER VALID AFTER THE FILM. And that is a good thing BTW, about the only good thing about the film... I have no doubt that the man's claims where spiced up for the film -- oh the shock of it!! -- but your argument to prove that is at best just plain absurd. Salt and sugar levels are lower after than before... coincidence?
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I think there are two things we need to remember: (I haven't seen the movie so I am not going to directly comment about it) 1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea. 2. People react to food differently. We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine. I know if I barely look at high fructose corn syrup I might as well get out the old pants that are now too large. So one person on a McD's diet may gain a ton of weight and another may barely notice a difference. All in all I think my first point is the 'duh' factor that people need to remember.
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leckey wrote:
1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea.
Especially if it contains E.Coli. An excerpt about the movie from allmovie.com:
When the higher-ups at Mickey's corporate offices learn that the frozen meat patties used to make the wildly popular burger have somehow been tainted with contaminated meat, they send marketing executive Don Henderson (Kinnear) on an urgent mission to ensure quality control and find out precisely how their product became compromised. It's a long way from the Southern California boardroom to the immigrant slaughterhouses, though, and the further Henderson works his way through the bustling feedlots and toward the ubiquitous restaurant sites that have become a staple of modern culture, the more he begins to realize just how dangerous convenience can become when it leads to blissfully ignorant complacency.
But, you know, it is just a movie...