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I don't think we're hearing the full situation here. There is obviously an underlying cause for the way that you perceive these people are behaving towards you. You really need to have a long hard think about the way that others see you, and why they act this way to you. Are you the new person in a tightly knit office? If you are, you will have to bide your time. Do you use innappropriate behaviour/language? Do you interrupt others? Do you act as though you know more than the others? I know that this seems harsh but you will not be able to change attitudes (yours or theirs) without figuring out what the underlying cause could be. As far as the work goes, it is common to put the newbie into bug fixing. I know it's not interesting, but it is one way to learn what the software does. Plus, somebody has to do it and that's normally the last one in. If the problem really is with you then changing jobs isn't going to help. You will merely switch locations for your misery. Do you try to join in with the others outside work? Consider that going out for dinner/drinks with your colleagues is a good way to break the ice and to show you are part of the team. Plus, remember that you "Work to live" and not the other way round. The work day may seem long and boring to you, but you are still getting paid and you can look forward to things outside work. That can be a big compensation when you don't particularly like your job.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Understood thanks dude... iven been in this company for a year and a half and two newbies came after me....i have development tasks before and they all turned out good, for example last week one of the newbies got a development task and im stuck with bugs, Like i said im trying my best. Some times ice is broken and we talk of something else for like 5mins which is good because we're at work, but i think praise for good work is needed in order to keep the employee happy no? Am i wrong? if not correct me. I am not stating that they are the problem, The problem is the whole situation...Which i mean to tackle with you guys's advice which is very responsive :) and i thank you for that.
Cheers
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Dude, if your boss is telling you to stop SMSing at work, then stop. If your boss is making a joke of you, look for another job.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Dude, its not like im trying to hide my side of the problem. i admitted that i was SMSing too much and stopped, You may have a strict opinion about what i said, But i am really trying to do my best, i really am...like one guy said here...with no praise for good work, u wont get the best
Cheers
Maybe your problem is that you're too defensive ? I'm not taking a shot at you, at least, that was not my intention.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Pinky_Malta wrote:
Should i change or what?
Are you happy? If not, then yes you need to make some changes.
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Pinky_Malta wrote:
whenever i do a small mistake im being yelled at infront of others.
That's just plain bad management.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
My mistakes always surface up to everyone and when others do a mistake no one speaks out.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
i entered the office and no one said good morning
- Maybe they're not morning people. 2) Try to get to work before everyone else does - problem solved.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
when i do something good i get no feedback, just a little "good" which is barely heared
- Maybe your "good" stuff just ain't up to par with the other people's good stuff. 2) Maybe anything you do that doesn't break the code is good, even if the code you write simply isn't good. (They're counting their blessings that they didn't have to clean up after you - again.) 3) You're only as good as your last bad act.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
when i go home at 5 when i say bye or something they barely say it back
- Maybe they're not afternoon people. 2) Leave after everyone else - problem solved.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
since me and my gf are not seeing each other that much we send sms's through out the day,they are commenting about it all the time in sarcastic jokes
Ahhhh, now we get down to what the real problem is. It sounds like you're causing problems by sending messages instead of WORKING.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
they are only giving me bugs to solve....no Development.
- Last I checked, maintenance coding WAS development. 2) If I worked with a guy that called himself "Pinky", I don't think I'd let him anywhere near the production code either.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
im not really happy where im working
It sounds to me like you'd better quit before you get fired.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
is something wrong with the place, or is it something wrong with me?
Well, let's go down the list... 1) You're texting your girlfriend instead of working. 2) You arrive late. 3)
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I don't think we're hearing the full situation here. There is obviously an underlying cause for the way that you perceive these people are behaving towards you. You really need to have a long hard think about the way that others see you, and why they act this way to you. Are you the new person in a tightly knit office? If you are, you will have to bide your time. Do you use innappropriate behaviour/language? Do you interrupt others? Do you act as though you know more than the others? I know that this seems harsh but you will not be able to change attitudes (yours or theirs) without figuring out what the underlying cause could be. As far as the work goes, it is common to put the newbie into bug fixing. I know it's not interesting, but it is one way to learn what the software does. Plus, somebody has to do it and that's normally the last one in. If the problem really is with you then changing jobs isn't going to help. You will merely switch locations for your misery. Do you try to join in with the others outside work? Consider that going out for dinner/drinks with your colleagues is a good way to break the ice and to show you are part of the team. Plus, remember that you "Work to live" and not the other way round. The work day may seem long and boring to you, but you are still getting paid and you can look forward to things outside work. That can be a big compensation when you don't particularly like your job.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
Do you try to join in with the others outside work?
Seriously, would YOU want to hang out at a bar with someone that calls himself "Pinky"? His co-workers can probably smell death on him, so they instinctively treat him as a pariah. He should probably consider a change of vocations to something that more suits his abilities - like driving a Taxi.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Pinky_Malta wrote:
whenever i do a small mistake im being yelled at infront of others.
That's just plain bad management.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
My mistakes always surface up to everyone and when others do a mistake no one speaks out.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
i entered the office and no one said good morning
- Maybe they're not morning people. 2) Try to get to work before everyone else does - problem solved.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
when i do something good i get no feedback, just a little "good" which is barely heared
- Maybe your "good" stuff just ain't up to par with the other people's good stuff. 2) Maybe anything you do that doesn't break the code is good, even if the code you write simply isn't good. (They're counting their blessings that they didn't have to clean up after you - again.) 3) You're only as good as your last bad act.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
when i go home at 5 when i say bye or something they barely say it back
- Maybe they're not afternoon people. 2) Leave after everyone else - problem solved.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
since me and my gf are not seeing each other that much we send sms's through out the day,they are commenting about it all the time in sarcastic jokes
Ahhhh, now we get down to what the real problem is. It sounds like you're causing problems by sending messages instead of WORKING.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
they are only giving me bugs to solve....no Development.
- Last I checked, maintenance coding WAS development. 2) If I worked with a guy that called himself "Pinky", I don't think I'd let him anywhere near the production code either.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
im not really happy where im working
It sounds to me like you'd better quit before you get fired.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
is something wrong with the place, or is it something wrong with me?
Well, let's go down the list... 1) You're texting your girlfriend instead of working. 2) You arrive late. 3)
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Well, let's go down the list... 1) You're texting your girlfriend instead of working. 2) You arrive late. 3) You leave early. 4) You write crappy code. What the f*ck do you think the problem is?
Nobody puts in into perspective quite like you...:laugh:
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that.'" - Tommy (Tommy Boy)
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there is no need to change if u feel that you are not doing anything wrong. Try to find a better place. But problems and issues are part of any professional atmosphere. We got to cope with certain things. There is no point in trying to change the system. If people dont wish you back, stop wishing such people. If everybody from a janator to your boss irritates you, then there should be some problem with that place or with you. So taking a break from work might help, spent time with your loved ones! Life and time is precious buddy, dont waste a moment of it! Just enjoy it the way it comes. Blumen
I wish to become a software consultant.
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Pinky_Malta wrote:
whenever i do a small mistake im being yelled at infront of others.
That's just plain bad management.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
My mistakes always surface up to everyone and when others do a mistake no one speaks out.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
i entered the office and no one said good morning
- Maybe they're not morning people. 2) Try to get to work before everyone else does - problem solved.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
when i do something good i get no feedback, just a little "good" which is barely heared
- Maybe your "good" stuff just ain't up to par with the other people's good stuff. 2) Maybe anything you do that doesn't break the code is good, even if the code you write simply isn't good. (They're counting their blessings that they didn't have to clean up after you - again.) 3) You're only as good as your last bad act.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
when i go home at 5 when i say bye or something they barely say it back
- Maybe they're not afternoon people. 2) Leave after everyone else - problem solved.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
since me and my gf are not seeing each other that much we send sms's through out the day,they are commenting about it all the time in sarcastic jokes
Ahhhh, now we get down to what the real problem is. It sounds like you're causing problems by sending messages instead of WORKING.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
they are only giving me bugs to solve....no Development.
- Last I checked, maintenance coding WAS development. 2) If I worked with a guy that called himself "Pinky", I don't think I'd let him anywhere near the production code either.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
im not really happy where im working
It sounds to me like you'd better quit before you get fired.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
is something wrong with the place, or is it something wrong with me?
Well, let's go down the list... 1) You're texting your girlfriend instead of working. 2) You arrive late. 3)
First of all i just stated earlier in the blog that i stopped msging during work..I arrive precisly on time which is 8:30 where everyone arrives at 9 i leave on time and on the majoriy of time i do stay after hours. And if my code is crappy it wouldnt be uploaded on major systems online. And last but not least i asked for opinions and not to be spoken too like an idiot.....and for the nickname its just an online nickname!
Regards, Luke
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First of all i just stated earlier in the blog that i stopped msging during work..I arrive precisly on time which is 8:30 where everyone arrives at 9 i leave on time and on the majoriy of time i do stay after hours. And if my code is crappy it wouldnt be uploaded on major systems online. And last but not least i asked for opinions and not to be spoken too like an idiot.....and for the nickname its just an online nickname!
Regards, Luke
Blah blah blah blah blah... You post a message here, and you should expect satire, wit, sarcasm, insults, and ridicule. I'm one of the few people here that tries to include all of those aspects in every one of my messages. It's more efficient that way.
Pinky_Malta wrote:
And if my code is crappy it wouldnt be uploaded on major systems online.
I'm impressed. MAJOR SYSTEMS ONLINE! MY GOD! Had I known, I would have been content to cower in the corner like the noob I obviously am! I'd be real careful if I were you. I've seen "major systems online" that contained enough rubbish code to fill a football stadium. Grow a bone, dude.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001