Stupid VS2005
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OK, so I had to search an ASP.NET project, and so I set the search options to only search .cs files. Now, for reasons I can't understand, I can't get it to default to *.*. The .cs option just comes up at the most annoying times, then I work out that the thing I want to find in a js file IS there, it's just that the IDE is fighting me. It's like when I do a search, and then the search pane says Matching: and the list of matches. If I search again, the IDE has Matching: highlighted and fills the box with it. Like I EVER want to search for that. I thought MS were GOOD at UI ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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OK, so I had to search an ASP.NET project, and so I set the search options to only search .cs files. Now, for reasons I can't understand, I can't get it to default to *.*. The .cs option just comes up at the most annoying times, then I work out that the thing I want to find in a js file IS there, it's just that the IDE is fighting me. It's like when I do a search, and then the search pane says Matching: and the list of matches. If I search again, the IDE has Matching: highlighted and fills the box with it. Like I EVER want to search for that. I thought MS were GOOD at UI ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
Also try: selecting a block of text, hitting Ctrl+H (replace), replacing something (it'll default to operating only in the text you had selected), and then trying to use Ctrl+F3 (find word under the cursor) it'll find nothing - 'cause it'll select the word under the cursor and search for it in the selection (itself). I don't think anyone on the VS team actually uses search. It doesn't seem quite baked.
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...the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more...
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Also try: selecting a block of text, hitting Ctrl+H (replace), replacing something (it'll default to operating only in the text you had selected), and then trying to use Ctrl+F3 (find word under the cursor) it'll find nothing - 'cause it'll select the word under the cursor and search for it in the selection (itself). I don't think anyone on the VS team actually uses search. It doesn't seem quite baked.
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...the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more...
How about ALT-TAB to go between windows ? For some reason, it never works the first time you press it. There are SO many little UI glitches in VS. And I'd have thought that a MS dev would know they are using the VS IDE for life, and care about stuff like that, or at least notice it.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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Also try: selecting a block of text, hitting Ctrl+H (replace), replacing something (it'll default to operating only in the text you had selected), and then trying to use Ctrl+F3 (find word under the cursor) it'll find nothing - 'cause it'll select the word under the cursor and search for it in the selection (itself). I don't think anyone on the VS team actually uses search. It doesn't seem quite baked.
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...the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more...
And I dont know why I can't use of Search,it always shows Search failed.:doh:
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How about ALT-TAB to go between windows ? For some reason, it never works the first time you press it. There are SO many little UI glitches in VS. And I'd have thought that a MS dev would know they are using the VS IDE for life, and care about stuff like that, or at least notice it.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
Christian Graus wrote:
How about ALT-TAB to go between windows ?
Why ALT-TAB ? For switching through open windows in VS ctrl+tab works perfactly fine ! Thats what you ment right ? I just dont like the Adavance Formatting option for .cs file it just removes all tabs and alignment of code , its nice to have for a script, aspx etc. Otherwise i love this editor :rose:
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OK, so I had to search an ASP.NET project, and so I set the search options to only search .cs files. Now, for reasons I can't understand, I can't get it to default to *.*. The .cs option just comes up at the most annoying times, then I work out that the thing I want to find in a js file IS there, it's just that the IDE is fighting me. It's like when I do a search, and then the search pane says Matching: and the list of matches. If I search again, the IDE has Matching: highlighted and fills the box with it. Like I EVER want to search for that. I thought MS were GOOD at UI ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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OK, so I had to search an ASP.NET project, and so I set the search options to only search .cs files. Now, for reasons I can't understand, I can't get it to default to *.*. The .cs option just comes up at the most annoying times, then I work out that the thing I want to find in a js file IS there, it's just that the IDE is fighting me. It's like when I do a search, and then the search pane says Matching: and the list of matches. If I search again, the IDE has Matching: highlighted and fills the box with it. Like I EVER want to search for that. I thought MS were GOOD at UI ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
Being a bit of a command-line hacker, my response would have to be:
grep --include=*.cs -r -i whatever-you-want-to-search-for *OK, it doesn't give you the clickable results, but hey, it does what it says on the tin!
Christian Graus wrote:
I thought MS were GOOD at UI
Whatever gave you that idea? MS were good at having a UI at all...but that's not enough any more.
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OK, so I had to search an ASP.NET project, and so I set the search options to only search .cs files. Now, for reasons I can't understand, I can't get it to default to *.*. The .cs option just comes up at the most annoying times, then I work out that the thing I want to find in a js file IS there, it's just that the IDE is fighting me. It's like when I do a search, and then the search pane says Matching: and the list of matches. If I search again, the IDE has Matching: highlighted and fills the box with it. Like I EVER want to search for that. I thought MS were GOOD at UI ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
On my machine, it can take up to 30 seconds from pressing ctrl+F to the find dialog being usable. You can often see it repainting the window a line at a time over and over. I'm stumped as to what's causing it, but I'm in line to get a new machine soon (although my current one's not too shabby - Dual 2.8ghz Xeons with 2Gb RAM) [edit] and I just got hit by a random CP bug and was timewarped back to January 2004 after posting! [/edit]
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On my machine, it can take up to 30 seconds from pressing ctrl+F to the find dialog being usable. You can often see it repainting the window a line at a time over and over. I'm stumped as to what's causing it, but I'm in line to get a new machine soon (although my current one's not too shabby - Dual 2.8ghz Xeons with 2Gb RAM) [edit] and I just got hit by a random CP bug and was timewarped back to January 2004 after posting! [/edit]
-- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
benjymous wrote:
You can often see it repainting the window a line at a time over and over.[...]Dual 2.8ghz Xeons with 2Gb RAM)
Its definitely not your machine speed. Mine is the same, and I do not have a problem such as yours. Graphics limitation? Crappy on-board graphics? Harddisk busy?
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OK, so I had to search an ASP.NET project, and so I set the search options to only search .cs files. Now, for reasons I can't understand, I can't get it to default to *.*. The .cs option just comes up at the most annoying times, then I work out that the thing I want to find in a js file IS there, it's just that the IDE is fighting me. It's like when I do a search, and then the search pane says Matching: and the list of matches. If I search again, the IDE has Matching: highlighted and fills the box with it. Like I EVER want to search for that. I thought MS were GOOD at UI ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
Christian Graus wrote:
I thought MS were GOOD at UI ?
Two words to prove that idea wrong. Microsoft Outlook.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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OK, so I had to search an ASP.NET project, and so I set the search options to only search .cs files. Now, for reasons I can't understand, I can't get it to default to *.*. The .cs option just comes up at the most annoying times, then I work out that the thing I want to find in a js file IS there, it's just that the IDE is fighting me. It's like when I do a search, and then the search pane says Matching: and the list of matches. If I search again, the IDE has Matching: highlighted and fills the box with it. Like I EVER want to search for that. I thought MS were GOOD at UI ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
In my experience, searching for something in the whole of a project is also very unreliable. More than once I've done a global replace (ensuring that all the options are set right) and later get an error because it has kept one or two references to the now undefined variable name. So, I get the line up on the screen where I can see it, search again to be told tht the search string was not found! The other thing that happens just occasionally, but really bugs me is when you drag a control onto a form, give it a name then, on the code page, it refuses to accept that the control exists and produces a blue squiggly. Anyone have any solutions to this other than the usual delete it and try again several times until it gets its act together strategy? Rich
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OK, so I had to search an ASP.NET project, and so I set the search options to only search .cs files. Now, for reasons I can't understand, I can't get it to default to *.*. The .cs option just comes up at the most annoying times, then I work out that the thing I want to find in a js file IS there, it's just that the IDE is fighting me. It's like when I do a search, and then the search pane says Matching: and the list of matches. If I search again, the IDE has Matching: highlighted and fills the box with it. Like I EVER want to search for that. I thought MS were GOOD at UI ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
The VS2005 GUI has a lot of minor annoyances. The Properties window comes up at inappropriate times, like when there are NO layouts visible, just code. Why would anyone EVER want a Properties window when they're only looking at code?? The Breakpoints window is similar, coming up when I haven't told it to for a few seconds, for absolutely no good reason.
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Also try: selecting a block of text, hitting Ctrl+H (replace), replacing something (it'll default to operating only in the text you had selected), and then trying to use Ctrl+F3 (find word under the cursor) it'll find nothing - 'cause it'll select the word under the cursor and search for it in the selection (itself). I don't think anyone on the VS team actually uses search. It doesn't seem quite baked.
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...the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more...
Yes, there are a few usability glitches like this that represent bad regressions compared to the polished VC++ 6 IDE. They're always tinkering with search and there's rarely an improvement as a result. Removing the case-sensitive and whole-word match toolbar buttons and keyboard commands is also a bad regression.
Kevin