So far it has been tough.
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You gotta love those religions where you can choose and pick whatever you need out of it and forget the rest. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' RosesI "cannot choose" whatever I need, of course. I am merely stating that no mortal is perfect, and that's just the way it is. Anyway, too many people overestimate the importance of sex. It is much more important to refrain from murder, violence, theft, ... than from premarital sex. But of course, there are always some horny young fellas that will say "I am horny, so I won't believe in God, because He forbids premarital sex" ;P I vote pro drink :beer:
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It's been a long, long time since I studied Christianity, but over the course of many years I attended a lot of different Protestant / Fundamentalist churches, and that was a consistently recurring theme. Don't recall the biblical justification for it though. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: Don't recall the biblical justification for it though. The only real thing is the commandment "Thou shalt not commit adultery". I can quote you in the bible where it is against celibacy Starting in Genesis 2:18 and through, Marriage is considered honourable in many places as well. And the use of the verb "to fornicate" has several different translations. But I do not believe anywhere in all the Canons including the Ethiopian ones is it said "that a young hetrosexual couple" must remain chaste and pure. I seriously wonder about "churches" that preach stuff that can not be found clearly in the bible. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies
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IIRC someone said that it was because sex should only take place between husband and wife to procreate (sp?). James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus
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IIRC someone said that it was because sex should only take place between husband and wife to procreate (sp?). James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus
James T. Johnson wrote: IIRC someone said that it was because sex should only take place between husband and wife to procreate (sp?). Yes, I guess that is what you have been told. :-) But I'd say even 2000 years ago shotgun weddings were the norm, possibly they used a slingshot and clubs then. Regardz Colin J Davies
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I've been a Christian for about a month now and I must say it is tough. The worst thing is combating biology, and I must say I understand why most Christians get married fairly young. I do like my nightly Bible study, and I am trying to learn as much as possible. Hopefully this will give me the strength to avoid temptation and sin.
ive been a christian all my life and you sound more a christian than i do. but thats cos they force you to learn it all, and at GCSE, they make u learn mark's gospel, some hindu (i think) religious beliefs, and for some reason abortion and contraception.
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I "cannot choose" whatever I need, of course. I am merely stating that no mortal is perfect, and that's just the way it is. Anyway, too many people overestimate the importance of sex. It is much more important to refrain from murder, violence, theft, ... than from premarital sex. But of course, there are always some horny young fellas that will say "I am horny, so I won't believe in God, because He forbids premarital sex" ;P I vote pro drink :beer:
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: It is much more important to refrain from murder, violence, theft, ... than from premarital sex. This I do agree with. Personally, I don't see the harm in two people helping each other feel good. :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses -
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Ok, this is where you lost me. :-D Yeah, I lose a lot of people right about there. It helps to understand my philosophy in life - anything worth doing is worth doing to extremes. The down side of that is the potential for burnout. It was that way with the nameless bimbos that you don't even want to talk to the next morning - do enough of it and it gets old. So, like a junkie always craving the next, more powerful experience, I reached a point where physical alone just wasn't enough. Now a sexy girl and a powerful, soul to soul connection? Hey, that sounds like a rush! Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: It helps to understand my philosophy in life - anything worth doing is worth doing to extremes. Damn, I knew we thought alike, but this is freaky. I'm the exact same way whether it be exercise, education, or whatever it is I want in my life. Even when I was getting fat; I got really fat! The thing is I just got a new body, so I'm not tired of "meaningless" sex yet. But, I am working on it. :) As far as my example of doing this to the extreme, my plan is to lay 100 women over the next couple of years before I start thinking of settling down. I don't know if it'll happen, but it's a goal. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses -
Christopher Duncan wrote: Of course, I just gotta add that if you're encountering so many biological opportunities that it's a constant strain, I'm sure you're the envy of most of the guys here! Thats what an italian car does for you. :cool:
Send your extras my way! I'll do your sinning for you, and protect you from your base urges.:-D I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
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Christopher Duncan wrote: It helps to understand my philosophy in life - anything worth doing is worth doing to extremes. Damn, I knew we thought alike, but this is freaky. I'm the exact same way whether it be exercise, education, or whatever it is I want in my life. Even when I was getting fat; I got really fat! The thing is I just got a new body, so I'm not tired of "meaningless" sex yet. But, I am working on it. :) As far as my example of doing this to the extreme, my plan is to lay 100 women over the next couple of years before I start thinking of settling down. I don't know if it'll happen, but it's a goal. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' RosesJeremy Falcon wrote: my plan is to lay 100 women over the next couple of years Keep us posted on your progress:) Back when I had a real job I travelled a lot. Just for the fun of it, I resolved to buy a drink for one hundred women to see how they'd respond. Over the course of a year I made a habit of buying a drink for the first attractive, single woman I saw in the lounges of whatever hotels I visited. Wanna guess how many of them had the courtesy to say "Thanks?" Exactly 2. None of the rest ever acknowledged it at all. Whatever approach you take on your mission, don't waste your time and money buying them drinks! :laugh: I Drowned Schroedinger's Stupid Cat!
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Christopher Duncan wrote: It helps to understand my philosophy in life - anything worth doing is worth doing to extremes. Damn, I knew we thought alike, but this is freaky. I'm the exact same way whether it be exercise, education, or whatever it is I want in my life. Even when I was getting fat; I got really fat! The thing is I just got a new body, so I'm not tired of "meaningless" sex yet. But, I am working on it. :) As far as my example of doing this to the extreme, my plan is to lay 100 women over the next couple of years before I start thinking of settling down. I don't know if it'll happen, but it's a goal. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' RosesJeremy Falcon wrote: my plan is to lay 100 women over the next couple of years before I start thinking of settling down. I'm always impressed by people who approach life with good organization skills! :laugh: Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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I've been a Christian for about a month now and I must say it is tough. The worst thing is combating biology, and I must say I understand why most Christians get married fairly young. I do like my nightly Bible study, and I am trying to learn as much as possible. Hopefully this will give me the strength to avoid temptation and sin.
We need a Christian forum on CP at this rate.... How did you become a Christian ? Did you recieve the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues, or did you 'give your heart to Jesus' ( a process not found in the Bible ) ? I did the latter several times and found I struggled with alcohol and pr0n. When I did the former, which is what the Bible says, I lost the desire for both in an instant. When I was courting, I certainly sexually desired my future wife, and her me, but it was still not a struggle because we both knew what was right. We were both happy to build our relationship based on getting to know each other, and then bang on our wedding night. It was worth the wait. But my principle point is that if you're not *actually* a Christian, then all you've got is your mind battling against your natural senses. If you are a Christian, then you have God inside you internally motivating you to do good, and the problem ceases to exist. That is the point of the New Testament, instead of an external Law, the Law is written on our hearts. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies
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Do you really want a list ? Start with 'marriage is honourable and the bed undefiled, but fornicators and adulterers, God will judge'. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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IIRC someone said that it was because sex should only take place between husband and wife to procreate (sp?). James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus
Between husband and wife, yes. To procreate, no. The Bible actually says a husband and wife must not deny each other sex, except by consent. It talks in terms of not ripping one another off. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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I've been a Christian for all my life and got married at 29. The problem with your approach is that you associate "sin" with sex before marriage. But, AFAIK, this is not such a "terrible sin" - if you want to be a good Christian, just be good and kind to other people, don't lie and be patient with your enemies. If you bang some chick down the road - well you don't want to be a saint, do you? I vote pro drink :beer:
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: well you don't want to be a saint, do you? In the Bible, a Christian IS a saint. You're not describing Christianity, you're describing being a decent person. That is a subset of being a Christian. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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Rama Krishna wrote: I thought that you already conquered the urge. Atleast that's what you told. That was at least two weeks ago. Biology gets stronger with each day. I think it is an exponential function because each day seems at least twice as difficult as the previous. Needless to say, my faith has held up so far, but I don't know how long I can last. Hopefully I will meet the woman of my dreams soon.
Martin Marvinski wrote: Biology gets stronger with each day. I think it is an exponential function because each day seems at least twice as difficult as the previous. This sounds exactly like the cycle I was on for two years prior to becoming an actual Christian. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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Between husband and wife, yes. To procreate, no. The Bible actually says a husband and wife must not deny each other sex, except by consent. It talks in terms of not ripping one another off. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Thanks for the clarification :) James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus
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Martin Marvinski wrote: Biology gets stronger with each day. I think it is an exponential function because each day seems at least twice as difficult as the previous. This sounds exactly like the cycle I was on for two years prior to becoming an actual Christian. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Christian Graus wrote: This sounds exactly like the cycle I was on for two years prior to becoming an actual Christian. What do you mean by that!? I go to Church every Sunday, and I have Bible study every night. I have accepted Jesus Christ, so what else is there?
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I spent a lot of my younger years as a musician doing the sex, drugs and rock & roll thing. Needless to say, I woke up with a lot of women whose names I couldn't even remember. Somewhere down the line, as I got older and my values changed, I reached a point where sex without an emotional connection was an empty experience for me. Now don't get me wrong, I still love sex with beautiful women, but these days if it's not someone I want to wake up and hug the next morning, I'd truly just rather sleep alone. So, the biological urges are definately still there, but because of what I believe in and am holding out for (i.e., good old fashioned, idealistic, romantic love), it's not a hardship. I'm sure you that you will draw similar strength from the power of your own beliefs. Discipline is just a habit. Once established, it's easily maintianed. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Oh boy.... Now I'm just wondering how long it will be before someone young and impressionable uses this as their sig... cheers, Chris Maunder Rub your belly and pat your head simultaneously. Sometimes that helps me make sense of things - Jon Sagara
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From Masturbation 1:12 "Thou shalt use thine own hand before banging some chick, lest thine one and only dick falleth off." "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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