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    Scott Guthrie on the Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 Beta[^] FYI - as usual, sorry if it's a repost. Cheers, Mark

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      Scott Guthrie on the Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 Beta[^] FYI - as usual, sorry if it's a repost. Cheers, Mark

      Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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      Patrick Etc
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      Service Pack?! More like a full add-on and feature overhaul. Looks pretty impressive though. Nice that the .NET 3.5 bootstrappers are finally included.


      It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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        Scott Guthrie on the Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 Beta[^] FYI - as usual, sorry if it's a repost. Cheers, Mark

        Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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        From that link : If you are running Windows Vista you should make sure you have Vista SP1 installed before trying to install .NET 3.5 SP1 Beta. :( SP1 doesn't show up on my updates and I am too scared to risk running the full SP1 offline installer. Looks like I'll have to skip this one.

        Regards, Nish


        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
        My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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          From that link : If you are running Windows Vista you should make sure you have Vista SP1 installed before trying to install .NET 3.5 SP1 Beta. :( SP1 doesn't show up on my updates and I am too scared to risk running the full SP1 offline installer. Looks like I'll have to skip this one.

          Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
          My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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          Hi Nish, I haven't heard of any Vista SP1 problems, nor have I had any. Is there problems with it I don't know about? I'm still on the fence with this beta....I think I'll wait until the final release this summer. The Expression Blend problems concern me, even though there's an update for that too. That's too many betas/previews in use at once for me... maybe... It's so tempting to play with the new stuff :) Cheers, Mark p.s. Desiree and I made it up to the tulip festival after the summit - the fields were amazing. It was also amazingly cold out there in the wind :)

          Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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            Hi Nish, I haven't heard of any Vista SP1 problems, nor have I had any. Is there problems with it I don't know about? I'm still on the fence with this beta....I think I'll wait until the final release this summer. The Expression Blend problems concern me, even though there's an update for that too. That's too many betas/previews in use at once for me... maybe... It's so tempting to play with the new stuff :) Cheers, Mark p.s. Desiree and I made it up to the tulip festival after the summit - the fields were amazing. It was also amazingly cold out there in the wind :)

            Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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            Mark Salsbery wrote:

            I haven't heard of any Vista SP1 problems, nor have I had any. Is there problems with it I don't know about?

            If it doesn't show up automatically in Windows Update, it is supposed to indicate some hardware or driver incompatibility. So while I could download the SP1 full-package and run it offline, it would be a big risk. I suspect it's my video card driver that might be incompatible with SP1 - but I am not 100% sure of that.

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            p.s. Desiree and I made it up to the tulip festival after the summit - the fields were amazing. It was also amazingly cold out there in the wind

            When we went it was quite sunny and warm. But the weekend you went - the flowers must have been in fuller bloom. I bet you took lots of pics :-)

            Regards, Nish


            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
            My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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              Mark Salsbery wrote:

              I haven't heard of any Vista SP1 problems, nor have I had any. Is there problems with it I don't know about?

              If it doesn't show up automatically in Windows Update, it is supposed to indicate some hardware or driver incompatibility. So while I could download the SP1 full-package and run it offline, it would be a big risk. I suspect it's my video card driver that might be incompatible with SP1 - but I am not 100% sure of that.

              Mark Salsbery wrote:

              p.s. Desiree and I made it up to the tulip festival after the summit - the fields were amazing. It was also amazingly cold out there in the wind

              When we went it was quite sunny and warm. But the weekend you went - the flowers must have been in fuller bloom. I bet you took lots of pics :-)

              Regards, Nish


              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
              My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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              Pierre Leclercq
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              Hi Nish, haven't had any problem with offline Vista SP1. And the most risk you have would be to roll back to a previous restore point, if something went wrong. So no big deal. Are you preparing a new book?

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                Scott Guthrie on the Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 Beta[^] FYI - as usual, sorry if it's a repost. Cheers, Mark

                Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                Is there somewhere we can place bets on how often the release of SP1 will be pulled?

                Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                  Service Pack?! More like a full add-on and feature overhaul. Looks pretty impressive though. Nice that the .NET 3.5 bootstrappers are finally included.


                  It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                  The thing that actually interests me the most is that clients will be able to download a "small" version of the runtime, i.e. one that's typically about 25MB as opposed to the whopping 135MB (or is it more?) that 3.5 normally installs. Hopefully this will be released by the time I return to do some summer work because I'm looking forward to see if I can use LINQ in the project (to make things easier for me) but I'm guessing the SysAdmin wouldn't be too happy about having to install a 135MB framework on each machine for what is essentially a couple of DLLs...


                  I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                    The thing that actually interests me the most is that clients will be able to download a "small" version of the runtime, i.e. one that's typically about 25MB as opposed to the whopping 135MB (or is it more?) that 3.5 normally installs. Hopefully this will be released by the time I return to do some summer work because I'm looking forward to see if I can use LINQ in the project (to make things easier for me) but I'm guessing the SysAdmin wouldn't be too happy about having to install a 135MB framework on each machine for what is essentially a couple of DLLs...


                    I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                    Ed.Poore wrote:

                    The thing that actually interests me the most is that clients will be able to download a "small" version of the runtime, i.e. one that's typically about 25MB as opposed to the whopping 135MB (or is it more?) that 3.5 normally installs.

                    Is the memory foot print smaller for clients? We are still at 2.0 for the enterprise so I have not looked at 3.5 much. Thanks Dan

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                      Ed.Poore wrote:

                      The thing that actually interests me the most is that clients will be able to download a "small" version of the runtime, i.e. one that's typically about 25MB as opposed to the whopping 135MB (or is it more?) that 3.5 normally installs.

                      Is the memory foot print smaller for clients? We are still at 2.0 for the enterprise so I have not looked at 3.5 much. Thanks Dan

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                      I don't know about the memory footprint but all I know is that there's supposed to be a "Client" install of the framework which is basically a 3.5 version of the 2.0 framework. I.e. it excludes all the server-side stuff which cuts down the size quite drastically. I would imagine that the memory footprint won't change that much because you're still dealing with the same stuff (i.e. WPF, WCF and LINQ).


                      I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                        From that link : If you are running Windows Vista you should make sure you have Vista SP1 installed before trying to install .NET 3.5 SP1 Beta. :( SP1 doesn't show up on my updates and I am too scared to risk running the full SP1 offline installer. Looks like I'll have to skip this one.

                        Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                        Do we have SP1 for vista 64 bit or its only for 32 bit?

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                          Hi Nish, I haven't heard of any Vista SP1 problems, nor have I had any. Is there problems with it I don't know about? I'm still on the fence with this beta....I think I'll wait until the final release this summer. The Expression Blend problems concern me, even though there's an update for that too. That's too many betas/previews in use at once for me... maybe... It's so tempting to play with the new stuff :) Cheers, Mark p.s. Desiree and I made it up to the tulip festival after the summit - the fields were amazing. It was also amazingly cold out there in the wind :)

                          Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                          I heared some people have problem with it,but I installed SP1 for vista 32 bit and I dont have any problem until now.

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                            Is there somewhere we can place bets on how often the release of SP1 will be pulled?

                            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                            Probably Vegas! For handicapping, you can use the connect.microsoft.com product feedback site :) Cheers, Mark

                            Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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