C# 4.0 - Incremental Hacking
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Lounge Joke => More bloat, language add-ons and frameworks on the way.. A consequence of disasters brought by this bunch: Between-The-Lines It provides great insight into what MS made and become, popular culture 'programming' company as depicted by a billion blogs out there. Listen carefully and beyond laughter, subjects include: - Python, DLR, VBA => C# as Common Object Oriented Language (acronym for hype of 90s) - JavaScript => (did it all but compiler vanished since 1.1?) - Twitter, Ruby as answer to 'Huge, incredible, complicated J2E framework' => (.NET 3.5 smaller) - "compiler as a" runtime "service" => (their "light" framework; this is more about compiler front-end being open as it should have been from day one) - lack of 'const' paraphrased => (unknown to Anders?) - MPI not existing => Linux clusters and Google FS and MapReduce - why foreach is trouble => it stinks - exception-safety => (unknown again) - generics power => (ugh?) - "we kind of had prior-art in academia on 'iterators and generics'" (huh? what academia and why did MS do it wrong?) - etc etc etc. All things you already know and where it is going.. and no mention of thigns done properly elsewhere, remember, they're Inventors. C# and new VM (another 3 years) is moving functional and parallel.. no news, but news is it will be a tad experimental and a result of mother of all hacks and that PFX disaster. And that will be according to MS mass consumer market design, 'general purpose programmers' of course. Guaranteed, screw, up.. not by-design, but by-attitude.
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Lounge Joke => More bloat, language add-ons and frameworks on the way.. A consequence of disasters brought by this bunch: Between-The-Lines It provides great insight into what MS made and become, popular culture 'programming' company as depicted by a billion blogs out there. Listen carefully and beyond laughter, subjects include: - Python, DLR, VBA => C# as Common Object Oriented Language (acronym for hype of 90s) - JavaScript => (did it all but compiler vanished since 1.1?) - Twitter, Ruby as answer to 'Huge, incredible, complicated J2E framework' => (.NET 3.5 smaller) - "compiler as a" runtime "service" => (their "light" framework; this is more about compiler front-end being open as it should have been from day one) - lack of 'const' paraphrased => (unknown to Anders?) - MPI not existing => Linux clusters and Google FS and MapReduce - why foreach is trouble => it stinks - exception-safety => (unknown again) - generics power => (ugh?) - "we kind of had prior-art in academia on 'iterators and generics'" (huh? what academia and why did MS do it wrong?) - etc etc etc. All things you already know and where it is going.. and no mention of thigns done properly elsewhere, remember, they're Inventors. C# and new VM (another 3 years) is moving functional and parallel.. no news, but news is it will be a tad experimental and a result of mother of all hacks and that PFX disaster. And that will be according to MS mass consumer market design, 'general purpose programmers' of course. Guaranteed, screw, up.. not by-design, but by-attitude.
I'm sure Anders is feeling your love just flowing towards him. :rolleyes:
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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I'm sure Anders is feeling your love just flowing towards him. :rolleyes:
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Have no problem with any human being really :) but that was just incredible. Okay, I admit he would like those =>s LINQ is good, but that's it, that's all that stands in the entire interview. But, how the entire bunch brushed away everything as none of it actually exists.. hello! Competition wouldn't even care. Google back-end is all that and more and it isn't based on runtime tech at all (watch out StreetView team is in Manchester :-) ) He mentioned "meta" so many times and the language still lacks a typedef and has that appauling hack of 'using' for poor-man substitution. I just find that MS who has so much influence over a platform that's supposed to be an innovation is letting these people and more importantly lack-of-engineering principles control the "delicacy of -1000 points". They talk about popular trends instead of fixing those generics. All while PFX is dragging itself slower than custom-made multithreaded JavaScript host and hack.. The interviewer too is an obviously keen "billion blogs about the same surface thing" reader. Trouble ahead Pete, I swear by it.. worse than WCF or WPF app start-up lag. Nothing seems to change at all. And they obviously want total control, no input, and will do only what is good for the masses and more hardware and licence sales. End-result: Same old hype of "new is old" and great MS marketing.
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Lounge Joke => More bloat, language add-ons and frameworks on the way.. A consequence of disasters brought by this bunch: Between-The-Lines It provides great insight into what MS made and become, popular culture 'programming' company as depicted by a billion blogs out there. Listen carefully and beyond laughter, subjects include: - Python, DLR, VBA => C# as Common Object Oriented Language (acronym for hype of 90s) - JavaScript => (did it all but compiler vanished since 1.1?) - Twitter, Ruby as answer to 'Huge, incredible, complicated J2E framework' => (.NET 3.5 smaller) - "compiler as a" runtime "service" => (their "light" framework; this is more about compiler front-end being open as it should have been from day one) - lack of 'const' paraphrased => (unknown to Anders?) - MPI not existing => Linux clusters and Google FS and MapReduce - why foreach is trouble => it stinks - exception-safety => (unknown again) - generics power => (ugh?) - "we kind of had prior-art in academia on 'iterators and generics'" (huh? what academia and why did MS do it wrong?) - etc etc etc. All things you already know and where it is going.. and no mention of thigns done properly elsewhere, remember, they're Inventors. C# and new VM (another 3 years) is moving functional and parallel.. no news, but news is it will be a tad experimental and a result of mother of all hacks and that PFX disaster. And that will be according to MS mass consumer market design, 'general purpose programmers' of course. Guaranteed, screw, up.. not by-design, but by-attitude.
And with all that it still won't be as bad as the mother of all hacks currently going under the name C++/Cli Ovid's metamorphoses is a pleasant read compared to C++/Cli manual.
pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Beginning KDevelop Programming[^]
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And with all that it still won't be as bad as the mother of all hacks currently going under the name C++/Cli Ovid's metamorphoses is a pleasant read compared to C++/Cli manual.
pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Beginning KDevelop Programming[^]
Shhh. Don't let Nish hear you say this - he won't be impressed.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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And with all that it still won't be as bad as the mother of all hacks currently going under the name C++/Cli Ovid's metamorphoses is a pleasant read compared to C++/Cli manual.
pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Beginning KDevelop Programming[^]
:) Couldn't agree more. They'll add more attributes or few keywords ( heck 'internal' and one more was the only original one but does it ripple into mess in C++/CLI ) to express parallelism and lack of side-effects. However, at least it was an engineering team behind C++/CLI. And it was technically outstanding, nothing out there like it. Only a mother could read it though; yet they rely on those same guys for giving them a compiler for many things they sell as products/baseline-for-all-else.