Vista crybabies
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Sorry if I sounded harsh.
:) You certainly did, but that's OK.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
It's a breaking change! They changed something for the sake of changing it, and it's jarring for old users.
They didn't change it for the sake of change. I work in a building that requires you to use an ID card not only to get in, but to get out as well - it's annoying, but the building is that much more secure, as it should be (I work in a processing center for a huge number of mutual funds). Vista is considerably more secure than XP, in part due to that annoying UAC popup. XP wasn't secure, which is why I had additional firewall and access support, which is why I am used to those silly popup messages (I have been used to them since Windows 98, for the same reasons). The genuine issue is that your PC has been available as a home for 'bots; that is less likely to be the case now.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Anyway, my point was that I, and some others, have genuine issues, and we rant about them. You were free to install Vista, why are you blaming Vista haters?
Perhaps I was harsh - perhaps I should blame myself for listening. However, I was trying to save time by listening to people with experience using the platform. UAC is not a "genuine" issue, as it does not create hazards, in fact it prevents them. It's just an annoyance. Every platform has its annoyances (I refused to install XP for some time because of the registration requirement, which hundreds of users claimed required a phone call to Microsoft - by the time I did install it, registration was a simple blip of Internet activity). I may yet find other issues that are genuine (to me, at least) and if I do you and our fellow CP Lounge Lizards will certainly hear about it :)
cpkilekofp wrote:
I work in a building that requires you to use an ID card not only to get in, but to get out as well - it's annoying, but the building is that much more secure
Same here, and I agree.
cpkilekofp wrote:
Vista is considerably more secure than XP, in part due to that annoying UAC popup. XP wasn't secure, which is why I had additional firewall and access support, which is why I am used to those silly popup messages (I have been used to them since Windows 98, for the same reasons). The genuine issue is that your PC has been available as a home for 'bots; that is less likely to be the case now.
None of which explains why the Up shortcut in Explorer was changed. ;P
cpkilekofp wrote:
UAC is not a "genuine" issue
Read the subject line, mate. UAC is *not* my beef with Vista. On a side note, what happens when there's a fire in your building? Do people have to show their IDs and leave one by one, with a 10-second gap between one guy and the next? Or do they have overrides? Again, my apologies. I am usually mild, but I must have let it rip today - even Elaine thinks so!
Cheers, Vıkram.
"You idiot British surprise me that your generators which grew up after Mid 50s had no brain at all." - Adnan Siddiqi.
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El Corazon wrote:
There are only 8x80mm fans ina supermicro case...
*wince* You need bigger cases. My planned case( Thermaltake MozartTX) for my new build has space for 10x120mm, and if you really want a single 80mm fa. Probably because if you have a PSU with a bottom (WRT a normal ATX layout) intake fan that compartment won't have any outflow.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
for some reason we just moved from 4U to 3U cases. I tried not to laugh at getting a nv280 into a 3U. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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for some reason we just moved from 4U to 3U cases. I tried not to laugh at getting a nv280 into a 3U. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
Any hope of beating sanity into the PHB's heads before your SLI box cremates and triggers a halon dump... :laugh:
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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cpkilekofp wrote:
I work in a building that requires you to use an ID card not only to get in, but to get out as well - it's annoying, but the building is that much more secure
Same here, and I agree.
cpkilekofp wrote:
Vista is considerably more secure than XP, in part due to that annoying UAC popup. XP wasn't secure, which is why I had additional firewall and access support, which is why I am used to those silly popup messages (I have been used to them since Windows 98, for the same reasons). The genuine issue is that your PC has been available as a home for 'bots; that is less likely to be the case now.
None of which explains why the Up shortcut in Explorer was changed. ;P
cpkilekofp wrote:
UAC is not a "genuine" issue
Read the subject line, mate. UAC is *not* my beef with Vista. On a side note, what happens when there's a fire in your building? Do people have to show their IDs and leave one by one, with a 10-second gap between one guy and the next? Or do they have overrides? Again, my apologies. I am usually mild, but I must have let it rip today - even Elaine thinks so!
Cheers, Vıkram.
"You idiot British surprise me that your generators which grew up after Mid 50s had no brain at all." - Adnan Siddiqi.
In mine everyone has to badge in/out but they don't require doors to shut between. Motion detectors will set off an alarm if anyone tries pulling a runner. The current setup isn't quite fully installed, but we've been told trying to run the doors will trigger them locking. While that doesn't make sense on it's own based on other recent changes it appears the goal is to make the area just inside the security doors into a mantrap. Writing policies that put security above egress in an emergency, or getting EMS/Fire people inside will bring the wrath of OSHA, etc down on everyone involved; so even if there is a nontrivial delay in normal conditions it can't be enforced for emergency egress.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall